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RPodWeGo
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Topic: No Compressor Winterization Posted: 09 Nov 2012 at 12:57am |
Agree too. To often we accept without questioning why.
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RPodWeGo
RPod 177
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Footslogger03
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Posted: 08 Nov 2012 at 7:37pm |
Originally posted by Little Sweet Pea Pod
Promised Update on the lack of Winterizing Bypass valve on 2012 HRE 177 - with all of the rhetoric on why FR would save a few bucks and cut out a $6 part. I contacted the dealer from whom I bought the RPod. They were surprised to hear the bypass valve was omitted, <span ="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba26, 26, 26, 0.296875; -webkit-com-fill-color: rgba175, 192, 227, 0.230469; -webkit-com--color: rgba77, 128, 180, 0.230469; ">upon which they contacted FR. FR confirmed the lack of valve and suggested they cover it under warranty by either sending a valve directly to me or have the dealer provide me one from their parts inventory. They had the Camco valve that Footslogger purchased from Amazon. They gave me the valve and invoiced Forest River.</span><span ="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba26, 26, 26, 0.296875; -webkit-com-fill-color: rgba175, 192, 227, 0.230469; -webkit-com--color: rgba77, 128, 180, 0.230469; "></span> <span ="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba26, 26, 26, 0.296875; -webkit-com-fill-color: rgba175, 192, 227, 0.230469; -webkit-com--color: rgba77, 128, 180, 0.230469; ">My point ... is the glass half full or half empty. Thx Forest River for doing what is right.</span> |
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Guess I should have pushed harder on the dealer. I just took what I thought was the "path of least resistance" at the time.
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techntrek
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Posted: 08 Nov 2012 at 2:14pm |
I agree with you, nascar.
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TIDALWAVE
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Posted: 08 Nov 2012 at 9:59am |
Very similar to the rear clearance light issue. FR omitted them until someone called them on it and complained to the NHTSA. Warren Buffet didn't become a billionaire by giving out 'free' gifts.
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this_is_nascar
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Posted: 08 Nov 2012 at 8:53am |
Originally posted by Little Sweet Pea Pod
Promised Update on the lack of Winterizing Bypass valve on 2012 HRE 177 - with all of the rhetoric on why FR would save a few bucks and cut out a $6 part. I contacted the dealer from whom I bought the RPod. They were surprised to hear the bypass valve was omitted, upon which they contacted FR. FR confirmed the lack of valve and suggested they cover it under warranty by either sending a valve directly to me or have the dealer provide me one from their parts inventory. They had the Camco valve that Footslogger purchased from Amazon. They gave me the valve and invoiced Forest River.
My point ... is the glass half full or half empty. Thx Forest River for doing what is right. |
Yea, they did what's right, but only because you went through the trouble to making an issue about it. I'd venture to guess that when the bean counters decided to omit this component, they had already speculated that the majority would do nothing about it. They figured that a small percentage would be bothered enough and call to make a stink of it (as you did and as you should have done). In the end, they still saved dollars by banking on the fact that, let's say, that less than 10% of the people will be calling and complaining about it.
My point................ yes, FR came through because you called them on it, but it's something that should have never gotten to that point to begin with. Rather than praising them for "fixing something that should have never been broken", I thing those who are impacted should be complaining to the point the FR will never make a stupid mistake like this again. I'm sure I'm in the minority, as usual, but that's how I feel about it. At least your particular situation is getting taken care of, so congratulations for that.
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RPodWeGo
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Posted: 08 Nov 2012 at 12:52am |
Promised Update on the lack of Winterizing Bypass valve on 2012 HRE 177 - with all of the rhetoric on why FR would save a few bucks and cut out a $6 part. I contacted the dealer from whom I bought the RPod. They were surprised to hear the bypass valve was omitted, upon which they contacted FR. FR confirmed the lack of valve and suggested they cover it under warranty by either sending a valve directly to me or have the dealer provide me one from their parts inventory. They had the Camco valve that Footslogger purchased from Amazon. They gave me the valve and invoiced Forest River.
My point ... is the glass half full or half empty. Thx Forest River for doing what is right.
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RPodWeGo
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furpod
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Posted: 24 Oct 2012 at 5:07pm |
BC Matell.. on our 2011 177, the pump and hose are in the slide, under the sink. Remove the 4 screws in the kick panel, and under there is the pump. And a lot of dog hair. YOUR pod may not have that.. ours does. Pictures... The panel you need to remove..  The pump area...  The hose and valve you use to winterize...
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Camper Bob
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Posted: 24 Oct 2012 at 10:13am |
After reading about the lack of an antifreeze pickup in our 2013 171HRE, and inspecting our Rpod thoroughly, I have ordered the Camco kit. Will install it as soon as it arrives. Our pump is behind a piece of wood under the kitchen sink. I believe FR has put those pumps anywhere they could depending on the model. I don't believe FR is going to be sending out any valves or hoses. I think they traded those for adding foam to many of the holes in the bottom of the chassis. Hope they slow down the migration of critters in the winter. Will also be putting a number of "softener tissues" thruout the trailer. That's my plan. Safe Travels
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Gracie the Wonder Dog (12 LB. Mini Dachshund)
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Hayduke
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Posted: 24 Oct 2012 at 1:22am |
Little Sweat Pea Pod:
Just did the winterizing thing today on our 2012 177 HRE. I was also very disappointed to spend so much time searching for the pickup line to find we don't have one. Keep us up to date on whether you can talk FR into sending you one!
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RPodWeGo
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Posted: 24 Oct 2012 at 12:03am |
Bc Matell: This I can answer as I just went through this last weekend with my 2012 177. Pump is under bed and there is NOT a bypass valve with a loose hose to suck anti-freeze out of the jug. Something FRshould rectify at the minimum by sending those owners a hose, a valve, a few clamps and some instructions. Back to what you need to do, search bypass or bypass valve. My spring project will add either the valve FR sends me or the one I pick up at Home Depot or Amazon.com. Either way it is a mod a 2012 177 needs.
NEVER MIND, you have a 2011 and I believe you have valve and hose. To locate pump... Turn it on and listen....
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RPodWeGo
RPod 177
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