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    Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 9:03pm
I called my dealer today (Nelson's RV in Boise) and they were aware of the dust issue in the pod.  They suggested that I seal the exits in the bottom of the floor.  I was going to do that anyway for winter storage but will move that up.

I asked if dust covers for the outside vents existed and they said no because they aren't supposed to be covered.  I removed the covers this afternoon to blow them out.  The two bottom vent compartments (furnace and hot water heater) were very dusty inside.  The one for the refrigerator, which is higher, was pretty clean. 

The next step in this journey will be to cover the outside vents and see if that improves things as I expect.  I'll report back with what I've learned.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 3:34pm
Originally posted by techntrek

The A/C doesn't have any opening or exchange of air with the outside, other than a very small drain hole to let condensation out.  The outer edge going through the roof is sealed to prevent rain water from entering.  I doubt the A/C is your problem.
 
More than once I've stopped for a rest stop and found the floor puffed up like a marshmallow, so air definitely gets in there, in my pod.
 
Might be easier to take a heavy-duty trash bag, open the fridge vent, insert the vent inside, then put the vent back on the pod while enclosed in the bag.  Then again it may be hard to get the locks to close so I may be wrong.

techntrek, good input that's appreciated.  I knew that the A/C had to be water tight and thus an unlikely source of the dust I see.  But closing the vents seems to be a good idea and it's easy to do. 

My problem is most likely the venting for the appliances, as I found in a post at another pod forum.  I hadn't thought of packing the inside of the vents with plastic garbage bags, but that's another alternative that sounds promising. 

My planned approach is to seal these vents before my next trip over dirt roads and compare the results (given your title I will note that I recognize the problems with a sample of 1) with my previous experience.  If I'm left with little doubt that the appliance vents are the source of my dust problem then I will look for a long term fix.  That would be something with attributes like a camera lens cap: keep the dust out and be easy to remove.  It would be best done as a factory mod so that interlocks for the appliances are incorporated with the vent covers.  But I get ahead of myself.  First I need to be sure I understand the root cause of my problem and then I'll set about crafting a fix.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 9:27am
The A/C doesn't have any opening or exchange of air with the outside, other than a very small drain hole to let condensation out.  The outer edge going through the roof is sealed to prevent rain water from entering.  I doubt the A/C is your problem.
 
More than once I've stopped for a rest stop and found the floor puffed up like a marshmallow, so air definitely gets in there, in my pod.
 
Might be easier to take a heavy-duty trash bag, open the fridge vent, insert the vent inside, then put the vent back on the pod while enclosed in the bag.  Then again it may be hard to get the locks to close so I may be wrong.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 8:47am
Originally posted by furpod

The ceiling vent over the bath.. open? hopefully not.. but even worse if it was open a bit and the fan was on..

BUT, having spent a bit of time in a couple different deserts in a previous life, dust gets into stuff that you KNOW is sealed and dust proof. (like inside a sealed bag of M&M's that were inside a ziplock, inside a duffel bag) The fact that it got into a camper doesn't surprise me at all. Nature of the beast so to say.


That dust got into the r-pod doesn't surprise me as I've lived in the desert most of my life.  That in spots it was 2-3 inches deep surprised me and it indicates some type of a problem.

Nope, the fan wasn't on but I will be closing the vents going forward.  However, I still don't believe that's the source of most of the dust I'm seeing.  On another forum (one that I don't frequent), I found a post about Montana dust getting into an r-pod while they were towing on a dirt road there.   The post sounded very much like my problem.

They tried, just as I was thinking, blue taping the vent ports for the hot water heater, refrigerator, and furnace.  It "fixed" their problem as when driving on dirt roads now the level of dust is what one would expect. 

I plan to try taping the vents and taking it on a dirt road as soon as next week.  I will let folks know here how it works.  If, as I suspect, it greatly reduces the amount of dust that enters the trailer then that seems like a "dust package" would be a good option for FR to offer. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 8:43am
If you expect a lot of dust coming through the exterior vents you may wish to cover them with garbage bags. Open the vents, if there is no one to help...tape the top of the bag over the vent, push the vent back into the opening and seal. Obviously this won't work if you are running the fridge while traveling, it needs the vents open to cool.
Except for the AC, none of the appliances have air openings from the exterior to the interior.  The furnace does not circulate outside air into the Pod.  I suggest that you go outside with a very powerful flashlight at night and shine it at the edges of the appliances where they penetrate the inner walls of the Pod.  If light streams into the Pod around the edges, you may wish to seal them up.  In addition, open the vent(s) beneath the shower and check to see if the waste pipe hole which extends through the floor has been foam sealed. Both my FR RV and Pod were left open. Because they extended through the floor they were a source of road dust blowing below the Pod.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 7:51am
The ceiling vent over the bath.. open? hopefully not.. but even worse if it was open a bit and the fan was on..

BUT, having spent a bit of time in a couple different deserts in a previous life, dust gets into stuff that you KNOW is sealed and dust proof. (like inside a sealed bag of M&M's that were inside a ziplock, inside a duffel bag) The fact that it got into a camper doesn't surprise me at all. Nature of the beast so to say.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 2012 at 11:28pm
Originally posted by dsmiths

I thought they were pretty air tight, did you have the vent open, or the windows cracked ?

Windows were closed as we knew there would be dust.  The vent?  Do you mean the A/C vents?  If so, no I didn't close them (didn't think of it) and that's a good idea.
My sense from the inside of the trailer (I should have taken some photos) is that the dust came in through the outside vents for the furnace (mostly), the refrigerator, and hot water heater.  On the outside there is a good deal of dust in each of them.  On the inside it looked like a sandbox was dumped into the furnace and slid from it onto the floor.  There were dust mounds underneath the furnace vents inside the trailer. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 2012 at 10:00pm
I thought they were pretty air tight, did you have the vent open, or the windows cracked ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 2012 at 6:43pm
Upon arriving at the lake, which required 20 miles of driving on a very dusty road, everything in the pod was covered with dust.  There were piles of dust right in front of the furnace grill.  We spent an hour after arriving shaking things out and washing our dishes.   

This causes me to wonder about sealing up the pod for travel where it is dusty and dirty.  Does anyone in r-pod land have an idea about sealing up the pod for dusty travel?
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