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Topic: Furnace/Battery Help and Black Water tank
Posted: 24 Sep 2011 at 11:00am

I have a 2010 model, does not have the nozzles. I bet Forest River paid heed to the problem and installed them.

I have just put Calgon and recommended water in both grey and black tanks. Added a cup of low suds Tide to black tank also. Going out tomorrow to camp hope the jiggle there will start the process at least. AGAIN, this forum has such good advice. Plan to do the process 3 times while moving around. Will report on progress

Our Walmart superstore did not have the Calgon, but Kroger and Food City in this area had it.

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Posted: 24 Sep 2011 at 10:56am

Most holding tank chemicals are now formaldehyde-free...just check the label on the container. Some chemicals are more 'green' and environment friendly than others. I think that Calgon would be a satisfactory replacement, I don't think that it would damage the electronic sensors. Some of the commercial holding tank chemicals are specifically made to clean tank sensors. A store that carries an assortment of RV supplies would probably carry what you need.

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Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 9:35pm

My wife found Calgon at Wal-Mart today. She said it was hard to find. My next trip is next weekend so we'll see how the first round of sloshing goes.

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Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 9:29pm

My 177 has a connection on the side for a blackwater tank flush. I used it and my tank now shows empty as well as getting lots of "stuff" out of an empty tank. The dealer said it has nozzles placed to clean out the whole tank, and to get the TP off of the probes.

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Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 4:18pm

Found Calgon water softner today, not all super markets carry it.

I got a qt. of the liquid Calgon just to see if it worked. The rest is the powder. The article said to dissolve it in a gallon of hot water. By using the gallon of water I guess it would have something to sloush in, so will put either one in water. And a gallon in the grey water. Hope I see some results since the stuff is not cheap. Going to put a cup of Tide down the commode too. I use the low suds anyway in my front loading washer so I hope not to have it foaming when I dump

Our camping outlets did not have a Johnny Chock, the pipe you put in the commode to hold the lever open. My camping world is too far away to be of any use. One can be ordered, but the postage on anything they mail is out and out steep.

Anyone out there devise something out of PVC that would do the trick?

'11 Forest River r.pod 171
'10 Ford Edge
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Trudi and Austin mini-schnauzers
change here, Trudi has gone, Austin now has a small black schnauzer buddy, Bentley

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Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 8:30am

Calgon is usually merchandised with the laundry detergent. We found ours in the local supermarket-chain. From reading on the internet, it also seems that some parts of the country also have a Calgon branded/co-branded powder laundry detergent that is *not* Calgon powder.

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Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 5:40am

I thought to get a fitting that is clear to eyeball if this is working, but I don't find one that will work with the low drain on the Pod.

I hope to see results if/when the read out in the Pod is correct.

I am not sure who carries Calgon, have never looked for it, but will try today.

'11 Forest River r.pod 171
'10 Ford Edge
ESCAPE POD
Trudi and Austin mini-schnauzers
change here, Trudi has gone, Austin now has a small black schnauzer buddy, Bentley

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Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 10:00pm

Let us know how it looks after a few treatments. I'll be going on my next trip in a week so that will be my first one.

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Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 4:09pm

My tanks are empty now (I know the black water tank does not read so, but the sensor is gunked up)grey water empty.

I am going to put the 2 cups each, dissolved Calgon in a gal. of hot water down the sink AND the commode.

This is at home, drain valve is closed of course.

Also I am going to add a cup of laundry detergent to the commode. Then drive with it swishing to the campground.

I figure since the capacity of EACH tank is 35 gallons, I will have enough room to use it boondocking for limited use for 6 nights. I come home ever third day to shower and pick up mail, computer, etc and return to site.

Then I am going to a full hookup campground for 3 nights,there to dump, repeat the above mixture and dump just before I leave. And repeat the mixture while going back to boondocking for 8 nights.
Again, limited use of facilities in Pod. Then to dump.

NOW, I plan to try to camp in November one more time, I hope. I think when I get it home I should do the process again, maybe some bleach?

Any changes here?

'11 Forest River r.pod 171
'10 Ford Edge
ESCAPE POD
Trudi and Austin mini-schnauzers
change here, Trudi has gone, Austin now has a small black schnauzer buddy, Bentley

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Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 1:11pm

Pretty much everything requires a tiny bit of battery power for the sensors and computer panel (fridge, thermostat, propane sensor) and so a second battery is highly recommended if you plan on boondocking a lot.

We made the mistake of running our battery down by running the fridge on it when the propane igniter nozzle fell off during our trip to the Finger Lakes during this summer's heat wave. The Propane Sensor alarm is hardwired to the wall and doesn't have an off switch (only a temporary mute switch) so it went off in the middle of the night when the battery ran too low. We had to unscrew the sensor and cut it off completely to get it to stop shrieking Star

We boondocked previously in Killarney Provincial Park for a day and a half last fall when we bought the pod and had no problems if everything was switched to propane and we used the lights and fan very sparingly. We had the furnace on full blast to try and dry everything out as we had gotten soaked during a 6-hr drive.

As for the watersoftening, we have liquid Calgon for shock treatments of the black and grey tanks, but prefer to use white vinegar for everyday. I also keep a small spray bottle of white vinegar in the bathroom/toiletries kit for when the campground has crazy hard water such as that in MI's Upper Peninsula. It helps the soap and shampoo lather Tongue

and I don't end up with crunchy witch hair.

We are also researching the toilet-wand thing as even with all the Calgon and vinegar, our black sensors are still messed up. The Grey ones are ok though.

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mountain mist Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 May 2010 Location: Gatlinburg Tenn Online Status: Offline Posts: 426	Topic: Furnace/Battery Help and Black Water tank Posted: 24 Sep 2011 at 11:00am
	I have a 2010 model, does not have the nozzles. I bet Forest River paid heed to the problem and installed them. I have just put Calgon and recommended water in both grey and black tanks. Added a cup of low suds Tide to black tank also. Going out tomorrow to camp hope the jiggle there will start the process at least. AGAIN, this forum has such good advice. Plan to do the process 3 times while moving around. Will report on progress Our Walmart superstore did not have the Calgon, but Kroger and Food City in this area had it.
	'11 Forest River r.pod 171 '10 Ford Edge ESCAPE POD Trudi and Austin mini-schnauzers change here, Trudi has gone, Austin now has a small black schnauzer buddy, Bentley

Tidalwave4455 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 25 Aug 2011 Location: minnesota Online Status: Offline Posts: 57	Posted: 24 Sep 2011 at 10:56am
	Most holding tank chemicals are now formaldehyde-free...just check the label on the container. Some chemicals are more 'green' and environment friendly than others. I think that Calgon would be a satisfactory replacement, I don't think that it would damage the electronic sensors. Some of the commercial holding tank chemicals are specifically made to clean tank sensors. A store that carries an assortment of RV supplies would probably carry what you need.

techntrek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9062	Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 9:35pm
	My wife found Calgon at Wal-Mart today. She said it was hard to find. My next trip is next weekend so we'll see how the first round of sloshing goes.
	Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual

Keith-N-Dar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: Mayville, WI Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447	Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 9:29pm
	My 177 has a connection on the side for a blackwater tank flush. I used it and my tank now shows empty as well as getting lots of "stuff" out of an empty tank. The dealer said it has nozzles placed to clean out the whole tank, and to get the TP off of the probes.
	Keith-N-Dar Boris & Betty (Boston Terriers) 2011 R-Pod 177 2010 Ford F-150

mountain mist Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 May 2010 Location: Gatlinburg Tenn Online Status: Offline Posts: 426	Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 4:18pm
	Found Calgon water softner today, not all super markets carry it. I got a qt. of the liquid Calgon just to see if it worked. The rest is the powder. The article said to dissolve it in a gallon of hot water. By using the gallon of water I guess it would have something to sloush in, so will put either one in water. And a gallon in the grey water. Hope I see some results since the stuff is not cheap. Going to put a cup of Tide down the commode too. I use the low suds anyway in my front loading washer so I hope not to have it foaming when I dump Our camping outlets did not have a Johnny Chock, the pipe you put in the commode to hold the lever open. My camping world is too far away to be of any use. One can be ordered, but the postage on anything they mail is out and out steep. Anyone out there devise something out of PVC that would do the trick?
	'11 Forest River r.pod 171 '10 Ford Edge ESCAPE POD Trudi and Austin mini-schnauzers change here, Trudi has gone, Austin now has a small black schnauzer buddy, Bentley

g4royce Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20 Nov 2010 Location: PortStLucie FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 335	Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 8:30am
	Calgon is usually merchandised with the laundry detergent. We found ours in the local supermarket-chain. From reading on the internet, it also seems that some parts of the country also have a Calgon branded/co-branded powder laundry detergent that is not Calgon powder.
	ChaiPod 2009 RP152 2011 Hyundai Santa Fe 3.5L V6

mountain mist Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 May 2010 Location: Gatlinburg Tenn Online Status: Offline Posts: 426	Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 5:40am
	I thought to get a fitting that is clear to eyeball if this is working, but I don't find one that will work with the low drain on the Pod. I hope to see results if/when the read out in the Pod is correct. I am not sure who carries Calgon, have never looked for it, but will try today.
	'11 Forest River r.pod 171 '10 Ford Edge ESCAPE POD Trudi and Austin mini-schnauzers change here, Trudi has gone, Austin now has a small black schnauzer buddy, Bentley

techntrek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group - pHp Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9062	Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 10:00pm
	Let us know how it looks after a few treatments. I'll be going on my next trip in a week so that will be my first one.
	Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ Pod instruction manual

mountain mist Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 May 2010 Location: Gatlinburg Tenn Online Status: Offline Posts: 426	Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 4:09pm
	My tanks are empty now (I know the black water tank does not read so, but the sensor is gunked up)grey water empty. I am going to put the 2 cups each, dissolved Calgon in a gal. of hot water down the sink AND the commode. This is at home, drain valve is closed of course. Also I am going to add a cup of laundry detergent to the commode. Then drive with it swishing to the campground. I figure since the capacity of EACH tank is 35 gallons, I will have enough room to use it boondocking for limited use for 6 nights. I come home ever third day to shower and pick up mail, computer, etc and return to site. Then I am going to a full hookup campground for 3 nights,there to dump, repeat the above mixture and dump just before I leave. And repeat the mixture while going back to boondocking for 8 nights. Again, limited use of facilities in Pod. Then to dump. NOW, I plan to try to camp in November one more time, I hope. I think when I get it home I should do the process again, maybe some bleach? Any changes here?
	'11 Forest River r.pod 171 '10 Ford Edge ESCAPE POD Trudi and Austin mini-schnauzers change here, Trudi has gone, Austin now has a small black schnauzer buddy, Bentley

g4royce Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20 Nov 2010 Location: PortStLucie FL Online Status: Offline Posts: 335	Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 1:11pm
	Pretty much everything requires a tiny bit of battery power for the sensors and computer panel (fridge, thermostat, propane sensor) and so a second battery is highly recommended if you plan on boondocking a lot. We made the mistake of running our battery down by running the fridge on it when the propane igniter nozzle fell off during our trip to the Finger Lakes during this summer's heat wave. The Propane Sensor alarm is hardwired to the wall and doesn't have an off switch (only a temporary mute switch) so it went off in the middle of the night when the battery ran too low. We had to unscrew the sensor and cut it off completely to get it to stop shrieking We boondocked previously in Killarney Provincial Park for a day and a half last fall when we bought the pod and had no problems if everything was switched to propane and we used the lights and fan very sparingly. We had the furnace on full blast to try and dry everything out as we had gotten soaked during a 6-hr drive. As for the watersoftening, we have liquid Calgon for shock treatments of the black and grey tanks, but prefer to use white vinegar for everyday. I also keep a small spray bottle of white vinegar in the bathroom/toiletries kit for when the campground has crazy hard water such as that in MI's Upper Peninsula. It helps the soap and shampoo lather and I don't end up with crunchy witch hair. We are also researching the toilet-wand thing as even with all the Calgon and vinegar, our black sensors are still messed up. The Grey ones are ok though.
	ChaiPod 2009 RP152 2011 Hyundai Santa Fe 3.5L V6