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Marx ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 18 Jul 2014 Location: Charleston Online Status: Offline Posts: 103 |
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Just wanted to share this with everyone but a few weeks back we went camping to a new location and in my normal fashion went and hooked up, pulled out my NCVT like always to check and about a foot away it started alerting me. This was the first experience where I didn't even have to touch the camper for it to start registering. It was super scary knowing where I could have ended up had the NCVT not been brought to my attention. Thanks to techntrek and others this is a safer camping family with no unfortunate news!
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Luv2Q ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Aug 2014 Location: Central TX Online Status: Offline Posts: 309 |
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Good, good info! Thanks for passing it on.
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John & Teri
Tundra 5.7L V8 / RP 180 E2 WDH / Integrated controller (POS) replaced by Tekonsha P3 |
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Podster ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Location: San Antonio Online Status: Offline Posts: 1108 |
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Non Contact Voltage Tester? What was the issue? Did you have to relocate?
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Cliff & Raelynn
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Marx ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 18 Jul 2014 Location: Charleston Online Status: Offline Posts: 103 |
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Didn't have to relocate, don't think they had any room anyways. The pedestal was bad to the best of my knowledge, I believe it was a bad ground on the main connector as one side would alarm while the other wouldn't. |
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Luv2Q ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Aug 2014 Location: Central TX Online Status: Offline Posts: 309 |
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Since the NCVT lit up, I'm guessing no surge protector/energy management device?
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John & Teri
Tundra 5.7L V8 / RP 180 E2 WDH / Integrated controller (POS) replaced by Tekonsha P3 |
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techntrek ![]() Admin Group - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Location: MD Online Status: Offline Posts: 9062 |
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Awesome! I'll add a link to this thread from the thread in the manual.
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jmsokol ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 May 2014 Location: Maryland Online Status: Offline Posts: 89 |
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I'm Mike Sokol from the No~Shock~Zone, the developer of using a Non Contact Tester for RV Hot-Skin testing. Thanks for posting your story here, and thanks to techntrek for getting the original thread started. If you haven't done it already, all of you should take a look at this video where I intentionally hot-skin electrify a 40-ft RV with up to 120 volts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8h64X33aKg
You can actually guesstimate how much hot skin voltage there is on a large surface by how far away it makes your NCVT beep. Usually around 80 or 90 volts will trigger a VoltAlert a foot away. Now depending on if this was a low-current or high-current leakage, it may or may not have been immediately deadly. However, ANY significant voltage on the skin/chassis of your RV signifies that your safety ground has been compromised and your RV could electrocute you at any time. You did the right thing and took this warning seriously. Let's stay safe out there... ![]() Mike Sokol edit: made the link clickable - techntrek
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Marx ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 18 Jul 2014 Location: Charleston Online Status: Offline Posts: 103 |
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No energy management, that has been on the list of items to get. After
this experience it just moved up a lot higher. I just wanted to share
our story and let people know this could really happen to anyone. Not
worried about this becoming a thread lol. Yeah I saw your vid Mike good
stuff. I'm not that bright with electrical stuff though so I just try
to keep it basic.
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jmsokol ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 May 2014 Location: Maryland Online Status: Offline Posts: 89 |
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Before you purchase any sort of Surge Protector or Electrical Management System (EMS) read the article I wrote comparing the two technologies at http://www.noshockzone.org/rv-electrical-safety-surge-strips/ The better units, such as the EMS series from Progressive Industries, will not only protect you from an open ground, they'll also shut down the incoming AC power if you accidentally plug into a TT-30 outlet miswired with 240-volts. An inexpensive MOV surge protector won't shut down the AC power if the pedestal has an open ground, nor will it protect your RV electrical system from plugging into a TT-30 miswired with 240-volts. Please note that none of the Electrical Management Systems or MOV Surge Protectors will detect an open ground due to a loose or corroded connection in your RV's power panel. It's up to you to do periodic maintenance and testing of the wiring INSIDE your own RV to assure the safety ground is properly connected. Do note that a NCVT (Non Contact Voltage Tester) will indeed find a hot-skin condition no matter what the cause. Here's my article on how to check an RV for a hot skin condition with a volt meter or Non Contac Voltage Tester. http://www.noshockzone.org/rv-electrical-safety-part-iv-%E2%80%93-hot-skin/ |
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wingnut2312 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Aug 2013 Location: MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 231 |
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What NCVT are you using?
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2014 rpod 182G
Ford Expedition |
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