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Topic: Adding voltmeter - Need ground wire. UPDATE
Posted By: Nashcat
Subject: Adding voltmeter - Need ground wire. UPDATE
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2025 at 11:57am
I’m adding a 12 VDCvoltmeter/phone charger and can’t find a ground connection. 

I’m adding the voltmeter to the panel where the switches for slide/awning/lights are located. There are several 12 volt “hot” wires inside the panel, but I’ve yet to find a ground connection. 

I wired industrial equipment for 35 years, ranging from millivolts to 600 VAC, but I’ve never seen wire colors such as this. The “hot” wire to the awning is green!!!  Green is always ground on 120VAC systems. And black is usually ground on 12VDC systems. Some of the 2 conductor wires even have power on both conductors!  It looks like each wire was run by a different person. 

Does anyone know if there even is a ground in the panel?

Thanks,
John





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Posted By: Rpod-Couple
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2025 at 8:48pm
I don’t have an R-Pod with a slide. However, I believe switches only switch a +12V hot wire. The ground return connection to the battery will be at the slide, awning and light. Not any different from wiring a 120V AC light switch which only breaks the hot wire to a light or outlet.

Sounds like you will need to run a ground wire to where you plan to locate this device. Alternatively can you mount this near your radio or TV which have +12V and GND connections?


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Posted By: Nashcat
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2025 at 11:07pm
Originally posted by Rpod-Couple

I don’t have an R-Pod with a slide. However, I believe switches only switch a +12V hot wire. The ground return connection to the battery will be at the slide, awning and light. Not any different from wiring a 120V AC light switch which only breaks the hot wire to a light or outlet.

Sounds like you will need to run a ground wire to where you plan to locate this device. Alternatively can you mount this near your radio or TV which have +12V and GND connections?

It took me a while, but I finally got it put in. It’s mounted near the radio, but the radio ground wire looked too small to carry any extra current. Looks like maybe 20-22 gauge. 

I found a YouTube video that explains the converter wiring, both 120 AC and 12 VDC. I pulled the converter from the wall and there is a buss bar for all the DC grounds, behind the converter, mounted to the floor!?  The AC neutral and ground buss are accessible with just taking the cover off the converter. The hardest part was pulling the wire, up through the wall, from the converter at floor level, to the radio panel close to the ceiling

I connected the hot lead to a wire coming out of the converter. I’ll try to get pictures tomorrow.  I always put one of these meters/chargers on all my motorcycles, for an accurate battery reading. 

Side note:  The openings in the walls for the wiring look like they were punched out with a dull screwdriver. All the holes were ragged with splintered edges. Worst workmanship I’ve ever encountered. 


Posted By: Nashcat
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2025 at 11:32am
Update with pictures. 

The voltmeter/charger is installed. First thing I noticed is that I need a new battery!   

RPod 189, installed in upper panel, next to the radio.  Also the same area as all other switches, including slide, awning, and lights. 

Here’s the installed picture, along with a look behind the converter.  You can see the row of white ground wires attached to the buss bar.







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