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Topic: Newest style WD Hitch
Posted By: spydie
Subject: Newest style WD Hitch
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2017 at 5:14pm
I've been studying WD (weight-distributing) hitches all day and I came across this new idea.  The Anderson WD hitch with built-in sway control.  Anybody seen one or tried one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FhIEc62mKA

Unfortunately, that simple setup costs a staggering $475 when you can still buy E2 WD hitches for about $232.

However, (and there is always a "however") I just talked to the designer of this KAAD Engineering hitch.  He claims he based it off the Anderson hitch, and he talked to Anderson first and told them what they had done wrong.  He says he's corrected Anderson's problem areas and has a better hitch (for about $69 on Amazon, and he'll send you $20 back if you write a review, good or bad).  After talking to him over an hour today, I'll recap some of his sentiments (your mileage may vary).  He said the anti-sway of the Anderson is built in the ball which rotates in a tapered bushing (which will wear out) to create the necessary friction.  And they use less expensive poly 'springs' which are not as good as real springs.  And their profit is almost $300 (the aluminum piece in theirs is the most expensive part).  His design is much simpler than the Anderson as it uses a stationary ball and anchor point and real springs.  He's trying to break into a market where there is a "sea of HD hitches... all based on very old technology."  So he's selling them for less than it costs to produce them just to get some out on the market, and he has a 30-day money-back guarantee.  Here is his website:

http://kaadengineering.com/weight-distribution-anti-sway-hith/

Here is the Amazon site to buy it:
https://goo.gl/REZhZH

I'm going to get one and try it.  Sure costs a lot less than the traditional type.  If it doesn't work, I'm not out anything.


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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi



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Posted By: CharlieM
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2017 at 7:23pm
From a quick look, and if I understand the pictures, it would have a serious limit on turning radius; a particular problem when backing up. The "outside" spring would limit the turning radius so it looks like you would have to disconnect before backing. The Anderson gets good reviews for sway but not so good for weight distribution. My preference is still the E2/Equalizer. Reese and Bulldog also make versions but I've not really studied them.


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Charlie
Northern Colorado
OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD
PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2017 at 7:44pm
All equalizers have SOME restrictions on backing up.  I had one of the newer ones with the anti-sway friction on the ends of the bars and in a sharp turn they'd fall out of the cradle onto the ground.  The ones with the chains on the end of the bars I never had a restriction on that I can remember back when I had that style, and I've seen very sharp turns on Youtube with this Anderson-style of Equalizer, so I doubt there's any more restriction than any other Equalizer.

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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: rawest50
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 8:54am
Originally posted by CharlieM

From a quick look, and if I understand the pictures, it would have a serious limit on turning radius; a particular problem when backing up. The "outside" spring would limit the turning radius so it looks like you would have to disconnect before backing. The Anderson gets good reviews for sway but not so good for weight distribution. My preference is still the E2/Equalizer. Reese and Bulldog also make versions but I've not really studied them.


The E2 is what I have and I am pleased with it. You do not have to disconnect to back up or turn deep. I am fairly new to camping so glad to hear positive comment on the E2.

Installed an electric jack which really makes it easy to hookup. Before that I was cranking my butt off getting it connected and in place.

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2017.5 RPod 179
2017 Jeep Unlimited Wrangler
2017 Chevy Colorado Z71 Off Road Crew Cab
2 Weiner dogs
Great wife puts up with my BS
❤️ Thoroughbred Racing.


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 9:17am
Yes, a lot of people are using the E2 and that's what I started looking at first because a lot of guys recommend it, but this new one that I posted is new technology.  No heavy steel bars like the old technology.  This is so simple it's a wonder someone didn't come up with it a long time ago, plus it costs a LOT less than the old heavy bar models.  Since I already have a sway bar mount on my Pod, I was thinking about getting the old style steel bars with the chain connector on the end.  They are about $100 less than E2 and do the same thing, but the new "all-chain" models I posted above cost $70 instead $150 (or $260 for E2).  Can't see any reason to just throw away money on old technology.



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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: geewizard
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 9:54am
I have the Andersen Hitch and really like it.  This "new" hitch based on the Anderson looks very similar.  I wonder how the anti-sway feature is implemented?

Does the ball rotate with the bracket underneath it?  Is there metal-on-metal friction?


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2021 Winnebago Micro Minnie 1708FB
2017 R-Pod 177 (Blue) HRE SOLD
2004 Outfitter Apex 8 camper
2014 Toyota Tundra DC


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 10:03am
Originally posted by geewizard

I have the Andersen Hitch and really like it.  This "new" hitch based on the Anderson looks very flimsy to me.  While it might work on a very light trailer, I would not trust it for my R-Pod.

Actually the only difference between the two is the expensive aluminum ball mount on the Anderson and the cheap poly 'springs'.  The one I just bought has more expensive 500 lb springs on each side instead of the cheap poly ones, but the chains do look lighter.  However, he's an engineer and I'm sure he knows the strength of the chains.  He took a good idea and took the "fluff" (and cost") out of it and made a "better mousetrap."  Don't confuse the price of $474 Anderson hitches with better performance.  they both work on the exactly same principal.  Instead of using spring bars, they are using bridge triangulation technology.  I really liked the Anderson.  I found it first and watched the videos.  Then I found the price and said "no way.  I can buy just about any WD hitch for that" (but in reality you buy them for about $150 and don't need to spend $500 on a WD hitch.  The end result is the same with all of them).  Then I found this engineer that had designed a simpler one for a lot less money.  It will work the same except I don't think it has any anti-sway.  But like I said, I have a sway bar on my pod now so it makes no difference and would be foolish to spend $474 instead of $49 (it costs $69 but he'll give you $20 back if you send him a review, good or bad).


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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: ParPod
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 3:43pm
Sure sounds interesting doesn't it?  I'm one of those E2 guys and paid a whack of cash for it.  But it would seem to me that the difference in price has to show up somewhere.  Nevertheless...if you do go all in and purchase one then with actual hands on a real unit you should be able to tell fairly quickly if it's up to the task!

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Bob&Margaret
2017 179
2016 Toyota 4Runner
2 sets of Golf Clubs


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 3:45pm
Yes, that's my game plan.  I ordered it today.  It should be here next week then I'll check it out and give a review, good, bad, or indifferent.  If it doesn't work (I don't see how it couldn't.  It's a logical assumption if you know a little about trig and bridge structures) I'll go with the old fashioned ($150) ones with bars and chains on the end since I don't need the newer (more expensive) ones with anti-sway friction built on the bar-ends.  I have an old style sway bar already installed.  But this one will work just like the Anderson one (minus the anti-sway) and they are getting almost $500 for those, and people like them, so you have to assume this method works.

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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 4:26pm
Yah. We're another E2 family. It works; it's simple; doesn't cost a lot.

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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 4:32pm
But it still costs 5-30 times more than this simple one that I'm going to try.  It's all about saving money if it all works the same.

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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: rawest50
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by spydie


All equalizers have SOME restrictions on backing up.  I had one of the newer ones with the anti-sway friction on the ends of the bars and in a sharp turn they'd fall out of the cradle onto the ground.  The ones with the chains on the end of the bars I never had a restriction on that I can remember back when I had that style, and I've seen very sharp turns on Youtube with this Anderson-style of Equalizer, so I doubt there's any more restriction than any other Equalizer.


I know with the friction bars I have the pod would hit my TV. The bars go past 90 degrees to release. They go almost to my bumper. I hope I never have to cut the TV and pod that deep.

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2017.5 RPod 179
2017 Jeep Unlimited Wrangler
2017 Chevy Colorado Z71 Off Road Crew Cab
2 Weiner dogs
Great wife puts up with my BS
❤️ Thoroughbred Racing.


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 5:54pm
Springs or poly blocks, I see how it does weight distribution, but I don't see how it does anti sway.

Pick your poison. It looks like it should work. Let us know.

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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 5:57pm
I think I've mentioned several times that I don't think this KAAD Engineering model has anti-sway like the Anderson does.  But like I also said, I already have a sway bar on my Pod so that doesn't make any difference to me.  Sway bars only cost about $50 and if you had to install one, it's still way cheaper than any of the old technology (spring bars) Equalizer hitches.  I'll be doing a full review as soon as I get it.  Stay tuned.

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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: rawest50
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 6:11pm
Question. My new Colorado has a tow selection to keep the transmission of shifting so much. I have load and sway control. My owners manual says to use traction control on the truck to help control trailer sway. Uses the breaks. Any thoughts on that? I will not pull with my sway/load control.

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2017.5 RPod 179
2017 Jeep Unlimited Wrangler
2017 Chevy Colorado Z71 Off Road Crew Cab
2 Weiner dogs
Great wife puts up with my BS
❤️ Thoroughbred Racing.


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 6:15pm
Originally posted by rawest50

Question. My new Colorado has a tow selection to keep the transmission of shifting so much. I have load and sway control. My owners manual says to use traction control on the truck to help control trailer sway. Uses the breaks. Any thoughts on that? I will not pull with my sway/load control.

Every vehicle I've ever owned with "traction control" it was "on" all the time (default) and you could turn it off (although I've never seen anyone figure out how that helps), but I've never heard of it having anything to do with trailer sway.  Sorry, can't help you on that one, but I'd be interested in whatever answer someone comes up with.  My new truck has traction control but it doesn't do anything for trailer sway.


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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 9:18pm
Seems to be a moot point. I went to the Amazon link, and it is currently unavailable with no projected date for when or if it will be back in stock. I would be interested in finding out if it works well. The hitch head for the Equal-i-zer is very heavy and the bars are also not light.

However, I think those bars saved me from going into a full jackknife this past December when we hit ice with wind in Wyoming. The bar hit the rear bumper and between that and the corner of the R-Pod hitting above the driver's side rear wheel, it stopped further movement. I don't know whether this chain version would have done any better. I purchased the Hayes SwayMaster electronic sway control to have an  extra measure of control. I felt it activating a couple of times on our last trip when we hit some particularly bad spots in the road.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 9:23pm
He's having some trouble with his Amazon site right now but it's on Ebay. Don't buy one until I test it, though. Might save you some money.

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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: ToolmanJohn
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 9:30pm
 There are some vehicles that do use the on board vehicle stability control system to also help control trailer sway when towing. I admit not knowing how it can detect a trailer starting to sway (maybe the rear yaw sensor in the tow vehicle?), but what I have read is that it can selectively apply the trailer brakes to dampen sway. I don't know how effective it is or if it also costs extra fuel and brake pads as well!!!

 It's true that most weight distribution systems have sway control built in as part of their function, and a few are strictly weight distribution with no sway control built in. It's always prudent to try towing with neither unless the sag is too much and affects handling. Then get weight distribution hitch, and might as well by one with sway control too. I think the Andersen is one of the least expensive.

 The problem using coil springs alone as damping mechanisms, is there is no dampening, just shock absorption, so the trailer will oscillate several times. The Andersen was great at eliminating that bounce. Those urethane rubber springs don't oscillate like a traditional spring.


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2017 ATC 7X20 Custom Toy Hauler
2013 R-Pod 177 (SOLD)
2013 VW Touareg TDI


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 9:40pm
Anderson is not one if the least expensive. It's one of the most expensive. You can get ones with sway control starting at about $236. The springs have nothing to do with sway control as I understand it. I don't think the $70 one has any sway control. The springs provide "give" for turning.

There are other reasons foe having an equalizer hitch even if your vehicle has no problem with the weight. Everybody on this Forum that has commented on them claim they also take the bounce or "bucking" Out of the ride that everyone experiences with a single axel trailer.

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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 11:06am
I'm looking forward to hearing your results when you get the hitch. I sent a couple of questions to KAAD Engineering via eBay. One has to do with how the hitch accomplishes sway control. Another has to do with backing, especially if there is a significant angle. I can see where this design would limit sway and try to keep the trailer centered but I can't see where it would allow backing if there is a significant angle that has to be negotiated like into my driveway from the road.

Also, when looking at the pictures on the KAAD Engineering web site, I see what appears to be multiple versions of the hitch. I asked about that as well since the picture you posted (from the eBay site, I assume) showed eye bolts at both ends and on the web site, it showed a lever and spoke of clevis pins. I want to know which is the current model.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 11:35am
Originally posted by StephenH

I'm looking forward to hearing your results when you get the hitch. I sent a couple of questions to KAAD Engineering via eBay. One has to do with how the hitch accomplishes sway control. Another has to do with backing, especially if there is a significant angle. I can see where this design would limit sway and try to keep the trailer centered but I can't see where it would allow backing if there is a significant angle that has to be negotiated like into my driveway from the road.

Also, when looking at the pictures on the KAAD Engineering web site, I see what appears to be multiple versions of the hitch. I asked about that as well since the picture you posted (from the eBay site, I assume) showed eye bolts at both ends and on the web site, it showed a lever and spoke of clevis pins. I want to know which is the current model.

Yes, StephenH, you are right on almost everything.  I can see no sway control and I don't believe the springs have anything to do with that.  Anderson accomplishes that with the special tapered ball shaft in a friction material.  I think the KAAD is strictly an equalizer.  Also, there is going to be some limit to backing angles with all equalizer hitches.  I think the ones with the bars that lie in a saddle and provide friction in the saddle have the best angles, but only if the saddles are not mounted too far back so as to cause them to fall out in a sharp turn (that happened to me).  The oldest style ones with the chains on the end of the bars would have the same backup angle as the KAAD (IMHO), but KAAD is brand new, trying to start a revolution in WD hitches and is practically giving them away to get them out in use and reports on them (they cost him over $80 each to build).  The first two he actually gave away because people are afraid of new technology that doesn't cost a lot of money.  He said he'd ship mine out next Monday.  I think right now he hand-builds each one until and if they get popular enough that he can put them into production.  You're right on the various pictures.  I'm sure some of those are prototypes and he's still refining how to hook things up, but the physics behind it remains the same as the expensive Anderson.


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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: bob-Pod
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 9:16pm
I'm also very curious on how it will work.  We are putting a cargo tray on the tongue and adapting it to carry our bikes.  With the weight on the cargo carrier, bikes and rack, I will be adding a fair amount of weight to the tongue.  So I am finally looking to add a WDH after towing Rpods for 8 years.  I have almost sold myself on the Andersen hitch.  I wish someone would have had one at PNW roundup.  Hopefully you will be able to test out the new one before I have to buy one.

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2015 RPOD 178 HRE (2015- ) 2010 RPOD 171 (2009-2015)
2010 Toyota Tacoma Quad Cab


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 11:38pm
Originally posted by bob-Pod

I'm also very curious on how it will work.  We are putting a cargo tray on the tongue and adapting it to carry our bikes.  With the weight on the cargo carrier, bikes and rack, I will be adding a fair amount of weight to the tongue.  So I am finally looking to add a WDH after towing Rpods for 8 years.  I have almost sold myself on the Andersen hitch.  I wish someone would have had one at PNW roundup.  Hopefully you will be able to test out the new one before I have to buy one.


Hold out a little longer.  I hope to do the test and review by the end of next week.  If he mails it on Monday like he said, it should be here by thursday and my mail doesn't go until late in the day so probably won't get to test it until a week from tomorrow (Friday) Sept 1.  I should have the review up by Saturday Sept 9.  I still don't think it has any anti-sway, and if you need that, you can add a conventional sway bar for about $50.  Or you can spend $474 and get the Anderson.  They work the same except you'll pay about $400 for anti-sway part of it! (smile)

Today I took the spare tire off my Pod and weighed it.  With the tire mount it weighs about 67 lbs.  I decided to help my trailer sway by hauling the tire in the back of my truck.  If I need more tongue weight, I'll put a spare-tire mount on the tongue of my Pod and move it that.  I'm hoping to eliminate all sway with a full tank of fresh water (300 lbs way behind the axle.) and not have to use a sway bar, but we'll see how that works.


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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: CharlieM
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2017 at 9:41am
Originally posted by spydie

..........I'm hoping to eliminate all sway with a full tank of fresh water (300 lbs way behind the axle.) and not have to use a sway bar, but we'll see how that works.

I assume you meant 300 lbs ahead of the axle. 300 lbs behind the axle would be bad news.


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Charlie
Northern Colorado
OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD
PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2017 at 9:44am
Originally posted by CharlieM

Originally posted by spydie

..........I'm hoping to eliminate all sway with a full tank of fresh water (300 lbs way behind the axle.) and not have to use a sway bar, but we'll see how that works.

I assume you meant 300 lbs ahead of the axle. 300 lbs behind the axle would be bad news.

No, I meant behind.  The fresh water tank is placed the farthest to the rear.  Ahead of that, and still behind the axle is the grey water.  Ahead of the axle is the black water.  A very poor design.  Forest River really has no idea how to design a travel trailer after all their years in business.


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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: CharlieM
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2017 at 12:16pm
In that case I wouldn't tow very far with a full FW tank; just from the last water source to the campsite. Not good from a sway and an MPG standpoint. 

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Charlie
Northern Colorado
OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD
PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD


Posted By: CharlieM
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2017 at 12:35pm
Originally posted by spydie



No, I meant behind.  The fresh water tank is placed the farthest to the rear.  Ahead of that, and still behind the axle is the grey water.  Ahead of the axle is the black water.  A very poor design.  Forest River really has no idea how to design a travel trailer after all their years in business.

I guess, given the alternatives, FR chose the best of bad options. The FW tank is the easiest to fill or empty, even without a dump station. The black tank position is determined by the toilet location so the gray tank falls wherever. There's no perfect solution to all requirements. Just watch the tongue weight.


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Charlie
Northern Colorado
OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD
PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD


Posted By: spydie
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2017 at 1:19pm
They should at Least have switched the fresh water and grey tank. Very bad design. The campsites I go to don't allow me to find water when I get there so I have to pull with full tank. It doesn't affect the mpg any measurable amount. Sway can be controlled and no RV should ever be built that you can't Tow with a full tank

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2018 R-pod 176
2017 RAM 1500 5.7L Hemi


Posted By: poston
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 12:21am
Originally posted by spydie

 I should have the review up by Saturday Sept 9. 

Did you ever get the KAAD WDH?  If so, how did it do?




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Jim
Virginia City, Nevada
2016 R-pod 180
2015 Nissan Xterra Pro-4X


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2020 at 11:04am
The last post about this was from 2017. While I would also like to see he results, I don't know if we will.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: riotkayak284
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 10:38am
I have the Andersen and it is a great hitch. Just like all WDH take the time to read the instructions and set it up properly.


Posted By: Skip
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2020 at 5:49pm
My expensive Anderson is great, easy to use, I can back up still hooked up and set up was easy. I recommend Anderson, worth the high price. Also note the brake lining material used for sway is guaranteed.
What happened to the knock off ??



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Camper owner 47 years, 2 tents, 6 trailers seem to think I’ve seen it all!



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