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    Posted: 28 Jan 2023 at 3:33pm
Hi Lost again... Humm... Love that name but I never get lost because I'm always exploring... or so I tell People. :-) 

I found out that its not illegal for a dealer to put any tire he wants on a trailer even if its not recomended.  I think in my case they put it on to make the used 178 trailer more attractive.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Marvin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 2023 at 3:21pm
Gpokluda, Great post.  So true... the ST's are very hard to find in stock.

Here is something I find very interesting... maybe you can explain it.
After I got the LT's I was very nervous about the 80PSI in them because we had previously hit a lot of road construction and then there were the concrete slab interstates. The LT's with 45lbs (Dealer recomended) that trailer bounced on every one of the slab cracks and I had to do about 10mph or less under the speed limit.   Once I got the ST's with 80PSI the bouncing stopped and I easily did the legal speed no problem.  Mater of fact... I had to use the cruse because the ride was so good I would get carried away with a heavy foot.  Maybe the LT's off road were a stiffer tire I don't know, but changing to the ST's was well worth it to us, and may have saved our life in a close call.    
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Post Options Post Options   Quote lostagain Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 2023 at 3:11pm
It would not be surprising to learn that travel trailer dealers and manufacturers decisions regarding the use of the LT off road tires are being made by marketing people who are trying to create an impression on the part of their customers that the trailers can go anywhere because of the gnarly tires.  On the other hand, if you were to contact tire engineers at tire manufacturing companies you'd probably find out that they would not recommend P or LT tires, no matter what the tread design, because of the less stiff side walls as compared to the ST [Special Trailer] tires.  

If you really feel the need for and/or will be driving in snowy conditions with your trailer, there are ST tires available with snow tread.  eTrailer has some, but they're pretty pricey, [https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Tires-and-Wheels/Westlake/WST34FR.html]. For most of us, we don't do much snow camping and in the off chance one must occasionally travel in snowy conditions requiring the extra traction, chains may be an easier and less costly alternative.  Also keep in mind that some states require trailer tires to be chained up when there are chain controls in effect for other vehicles, even for 4x4's with snow tires.  Best to check the rules where you anticipate snow driving before leaving.  For example, https://dot.ca.gov/-/media/dot-media/documents/chainrequire-a11y.pd.  Personally, if I had to confront driving in the snow with treacherous conditions or chain controls in effect, unless I was trying to run from the sheriff, I'd just wait until the weather improved and/ or the chain controls were taken down.  
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Marv, no doubt there's a lot of conflicting information and opinions out there. Truth be told, if there had been a viable ST alternative besides the Westlakes, I would have gone that route. Never the less, the Flaken Wildpeaks performed just fine. They had about 5K miles on them when we sold the Rpod. In those miles, the 179 tracked true, never wallowed or showed any signs of instability or abnormal wear. I dutifully informed the buyer that it had LT tires and what the recommended inflation was since it was different than the stockers.
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Hi Linda& Gino,

With dual axils you at least have a extra safety feature.

Interesting what you heard.  I can only tell what I heard from tow truck operators and the major Tire Repair in Indianapolis.

What I failed to mention was it took me 3 tow/tire repair trucks before I found one that would change the different model/rating tire at 9pm on a Saturday.  I was a Liability issue on their part if they changed it.   Each told me horror stories of what they have seen including the Tire place that that I finally found, as well as 2 RV dealers that we stop at during our 7,000 mile trip.  The tire dealer explained in detail why it was a bad idea and he spoke from experience... especially when he found out I was at cruising speed on major interstates and high Mt passes with no guard rails.   

You bring up a good point about what manufacture's recommend.   If they recommend it then it might be ok for that model. 
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+1 to Marvin's comment.

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Hi Marv. When I started researching replacement tires for our 179 a year ago, I wanted to stay with the same tire profile that was stock. We were a month from leaving in a ~4K mile trip and I didn't want to change what worked well for us in the past. After consulting with two independent tires shops that performed tires services for the majority of the RV dealers in Albuquerque, plus speaking directly with Forest River, I decided to go with the recommendation of all three, which was a 10 ply LT tire inflated to 65psi, which would give a higher load capacity than the stock Westlakes. Forest River uses LT tires on their Wolf Pup series as do other manufacturers including Airstream.

There's a lot of info out there so folks need to make their own informed decisions. The point is moot for me as my new trailer is a tandem axle with a common ST tire size. That said, I will stay with ST tires on this rig.
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I see a few people doing RV tire swaps.   When I had a 8" eye bolt wreck my Off Road tire on a street, I wound up at the major tire shop in Indianapolis that does everything including Tractor Trailer rigs and big equipment and who have seen everything.   Boy did I get a lecture on RV Trailer tires because off road tire came on my used RPod.

Bottom line if you google: What is the difference between ST and LT tires?

ST tires have some of the highest load ratings. This is one of the reasons they are designated for use on trailers. Truck and automobile tires do not have to withstand the weight and stress that is put on trailer tires. Venture Tip: Never substitute light truck (LT) or passenger (P) tires for trailer tires.

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Are LT tires better for trailers?

Is it OK to use truck tires on a trailer?

Don't. Trailer tires and passenger car tires have different structures to respond to different stresses. Using a trailer tire on your car, or a car tire on your trailer, could lead to disastrous consequences. Passenger vehicles interact with the road through their tires.

https://trailervalet.com › what-is-the-difference-between-tr...


ALSO... you must use the same tires on each wheel.  And good idea to on the spare as well in case you have to drive a long way like we did on a Sunday in the middle of nowhere on a cross country trip.   

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For 2017 179 (sold)
- dual batteries (grouo 24 12v flooded)
- 1000 watt inverter with dedicated circuits
- Additional shelf in pantry
- 10" mattress
- Battery monitor with smart shunt
- in cabinet lighting
- LT tires rather than ST
- Weight distribution hitch Fastway E2
- Portable solar hardwired to battery bank (fused)
- Coffee table rather than dinette table
- Faucet with pull down sprayer
- Cover for two burner stove top to use as extra counter space
- Upgraded Dometic thermostat
- Magnetic door latches
- Rearview camera
- TV swivel
- Electric tongue jack

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Marvin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2023 at 11:30pm
I plan to do this mod.

What size or pound lift cylinders did you use and what size was the bins.  I assume you left the cushions on when lifting.
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