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    Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 12:54pm
Originally posted by DavMar



Take a look at Sumo SuperSrings which replace your stock springs rubber stops.

https://www.supersprings.com/products/sumosprings/

I have them installed on my Tacoma run them with a WDH and am happy with the results. I also load my bed of the truck with coolers, storage chest and such. Never had any problem with overheating with running in the mountains that some with older trucks have experienced. If by chance you do look into added radiator or transmission cooler.
 


Hey Dave,
Which model of sumosprings are you using?  I'm planning on installing some this spring, and appreciate any feedback you've got.
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Originally posted by Woody.1

Hey gang,
First post here - we just bought a 179 and I’ll be towing it with 2013 4x4 Tacoma double cab with tow package. I’m having dealer add the WDH.
My question is should I get air bag suspension for the Tacoma? I’ve been searching in the forum, but haven’t come across any mention of using them.
Will have a couple of bikes and probably a cooler in truck bed. No serious weight.
Thanks,
Woody


Take a look at Sumo SuperSrings which replace your stock springs rubber stops.

https://www.supersprings.com/products/sumosprings/

I have them installed on my Tacoma run them with a WDH and am happy with the results. I also load my bed of the truck with coolers, storage chest and such. Never had any problem with overheating with running in the mountains that some with older trucks have experienced. If by chance you do look into added radiator or transmission cooler.
 
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Thanks for the advice gang.
I’ll pass on the air bags and try it out.
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+2 to what TT said. From what I understand, you do NOT want air bag suspension if you are using a WDH. Both of them will reduce the rear end sag, but the air bags would conflict with what the hitch needs to do to transfer weight to the front wheels. Fastway (makers of the e2 hitch) has a video on the differences which may be helpful.
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Originally posted by Woody.1

Hey gang,
First post here - we just bought a 179 and I’ll be towing it with 2013 4x4 Tacoma double cab with tow package. I’m having dealer add the WDH.
My question is should I get air bag suspension for the Tacoma? I’ve been searching in the forum, but haven’t come across any mention of using them.
Will have a couple of bikes and probably a cooler in truck bed. No serious weight.
Thanks,
Woody
+1 to what TT said. I have put some serious loads in our previous Tacomas and they've handled it very well (well over the 300-400 lbs of an R-pod). However, if you're going to use a WDH, that transfers a significant portion of the load to the front wheels. A recent vintage of Tacoma (like yours) with a tow package should handle "up to" 6500 lbs. A long-winded way of saying that I don't believe that you will need the air bags. Save the air bag money on some nice fru-fru for your R-pod.
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Posts: 1455 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 12:32pm
The WDH should get rid of most of any droop if it's installed and adjusted correctly.  I'm not an expert by any means, but from what I've gleaned, air bags probably aren't necessary.  Try it without for while and add them later if you think you need them.  A lot of people with your class tow vehicle don't have air bags or a WDH.

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Hey gang,
First post here - we just bought a 179 and I’ll be towing it with 2013 4x4 Tacoma double cab with tow package. I’m having dealer add the WDH.
My question is should I get air bag suspension for the Tacoma? I’ve been searching in the forum, but haven’t come across any mention of using them.
Will have a couple of bikes and probably a cooler in truck bed. No serious weight.
Thanks,
Woody
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Posts: 48 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 7:54pm
excellent advice. thanks
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Posts: 451 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 7:50pm
WillyBob, it might be prudent to test your S10 by towing a popup or fold down camper as you describe it.

I don't know if you could rent one for a weekend, but it could be cheap insurance that you're not making a mistake. It could still very well be that your S10 has issues related to being stressed by towing.

I suggest visiting an S10 forum, there must be a few, and gleaning some info from other owners.

Your 195Hp is not a lot, and the torque rating is probably similar. I owned a 2003 Toyota 4Runner  4.0L V6 for ten years, and when I purchase my first camper, I thought it was the camper that caused my highway towing issues (weak on hills and highway speeds). So I bought an R-Pod 177 thinking it was more aerodynamic, and guess what, the 4Runner was still not great at towing at highway speeds (65mph). I was in 3rd gear for entire trips (4 speed auto). I upgraded the tow vehicle instead of making another camper purchase.
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Posts: 27 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 4:26pm
Nomad....we found no solution to the overheating issue. Now the pod is winterized and sitting in the drive till spring when we plan on selling it and getting another Forest River product that folds down.  Sadly.  But, I do intend on having the the cooling system flushed before towing anything.  
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