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Topic ClosedBlack tank fell from r-pod - Event Date: 03 Nov 2016
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    Posted: 01 Apr 2016 at 1:20pm
In case anyone is interested, this is the type screw used for the tanks. There were two in each bracket, both in the bottom holes. The top holes had nothing.
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Originally posted by JandL

I forgot to add I did not have to drill out the bracket. The hole thru it was something slightly over 1/4" diameter

Thanks. So 1/8" thick puts it at 2.5 threads if my brain is working right. I usually like to use the 3 thread rule, but for supplemental support that is plenty good. I may have to borrow the taps from work one day!
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I forgot to add I did not have to drill out the bracket. The hole thru it was something slightly over 1/4" diameter
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2” wide x 4” high x .120 wall thickness, rectangular tubing, Low-Carbon Steel, welded seam
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I couldn't reuse the hole where the small screw went.  The screw sheared right off and was filling the hole and the remaining one was rusty and likely would shear off also.  Each bracket was also missing a screw that was never installed .So I had to get the drill out to repair the bracket which was getting ready to fall off.  I decided to put in a bolt instead of another small screw.  I then added a bolt through the center of each bracket because....just because....and because I already had the drill out and needed to buy at least one bolt/nut/lockwasher at the hardware store.  I also added the missing screw from the bracket that only had one screw holding it up......and I may have added missing screws from the other brackets as well.  If you overtighten the small self tapping screws they will strip out and not hold. 

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Originally posted by JandL

A long time ago when someone had posted this issue I went out and looked at my trailer and found the cross bars fit with no gap and 2 self-taping screws in place. Just to add a bit of backup I drilled and tapped the third unused hole for a ¼-20 grade 8 bolt. I also installed a lock washer and a fender washer to spread the load. It was very easy to drill and tap the frame tube; it’s only 1/8” thick.


How thick is the wall of the frame tube? Did you counterbore the the bracket?
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A long time ago when someone had posted this issue I went out and looked at my trailer and found the cross bars fit with no gap and 2 self-taping screws in place. Just to add a bit of backup I drilled and tapped the third unused hole for a ¼-20 grade 8 bolt. I also installed a lock washer and a fender washer to spread the load. It was very easy to drill and tap the frame tube; it’s only 1/8” thick.

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Originally posted by Akula1

Can't I take each screw out one at a time and dip it in Loc-Tite, and reinsert them to make sure they don't back out?


You could. But why? The incidence of this happening is very rare. But if it worries you, do what you feel will mitigate it's chances.
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Can't I take each screw out one at a time and dip it in Loc-Tite, and reinsert them to make sure they don't back out?
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I use to work Safety, and 95% of all safety related equipment, procedures, and safety material is off the blood of others.

Most companies like airlines, auto, and home builders work off of a calculated cost of doing business weighing the cost of safety vs. the percentage of loss of life.

It's sad, but true. :(
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