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  | MDPaddlersPod   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Topic: Inverter/Generator help needed Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 3:33pm
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   I used the Honda 3000is on a 90 degree day with the AC on full blast. After the AC started I was able to turn the generator to the ECO position and run everything. 
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  | JandL   Senior Member
 
   
   
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   The Champion Power Equipment 100156 gasoline powered generator produces 2800 running watts (23 amps) and 3100 starting watts. I picked this generator because it comes with the neutral wire already bonded to the frame, and to run my air conditioner. Gross Weight 96.3 lb. (43.7 kg) $700 from Costco. The only time I have used my generator to power my AC is in my driveway to try it out. It has been a good generator, always starts, but it takes 2 people to get into my truck. If I had to do it again I would consider the 2000 watt unit. It won’t run the AC, but it is lighter and smaller in size. The Champion Power Equipment 73534i gasoline powered generator produces 1600 running watts (13 amps) and 2000 starting watts, Gross Weight 55.1 lb. (25 kg). $425 from Amazon, Parallel Power Kit for 73536i, $73. ( 2 paralleled together gives you 26 amps, more than enough to start the AC.)  
 
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  | mjh203   Newbie
 
   
 
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   Looks like the Champion is a good price...and you can get it with wireless remote start which would be cool...
 https://www.amazon.com/Champion-Power-Equipment-75537i-Generator/dp/B00JZQUSAC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468512025&sr=8-1&keywords=inverter+generator+champion
 
 Has anyone owned one of these and have had good or bad luck?
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  | WillThrill   Senior Member
 
   
   
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| Originally posted by mjh203 
 Has anyone tried one of these....
 
 https://www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratton-30545-PowerSmart-3000-Watt/dp/B00IWJOOU8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468511593&sr=8-1&keywords=inverter+generator+30amp
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 I have not, but I have heard many good things about the Champion 3100 watt inverter generator, and it's over $300 less.  I would not personally consider B&S to be of higher quality than Champion given my prior experience with the latter's generators and others'. | 
 
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  | mjh203   Newbie
 
   
 
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   Has anyone tried one of these....
 https://www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratton-30545-PowerSmart-3000-Watt/dp/B00IWJOOU8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468511593&sr=8-1&keywords=inverter+generator+30amp
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  | WillThrill   Senior Member
 
   
   
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| Originally posted by TheBum 
 
 | Originally posted by Jackdaddy 
 The battery was 80% charged.  I also had two lights on and the TV on with no problems.
 
 
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 Also, were you running Eco mode? If you run the generator flat out all the time, you'll burn through gas a lot more quickly. I would guess that two parallel-connected Honda 2000s would use less gas over a period of time on Eco mode than a single 2000 with Eco mode off, given a typical cycling load.
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 Honda's Eco-Throttle can, according to their website, reduce fuel consumption by up to 40%.  The only way you would see that kind of fuel savings, though, is you had the Eco-Throttle turned off and were running a very low load on the generator.  So dual Honda 2 kW generators will always consume more fuel than one, assuming that the wattage being consumed is the same. 
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  | WillThrill   Senior Member
 
   
   
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| Originally posted by mjh203 
 Any idea if the noise of the Yamaha 2400 is much louder than a Honda 2000?
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 It is slightly louder, but not by much, especially at low loads.  When you're running the AC and the Yamaha is running full bore, it's noticeably louder, but this is to be expected. 
 To put it in perspective, at low loads, my Yamaha cannot be heard at all more than about 100 ft. away if we're in a campground with bushes and shrubbery around. 
 It's funny how quickly you become accustomed to how different brands of generators sound.  When I was walking through Sugar Pine State Park's campground in Lake Tahoe last month, I heard an inverter generator running and instantly knew that it wasn't a Honda or Yamaha.  Sure enough, it was a Champion 2 kW.  Its sound level was slightly higher than with the top brands, but I was very impressed, especially considering that it's half the price. | 
 
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  | WillThrill   Senior Member
 
   
   
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| Originally posted by mjh203 
 How is the noise on the 3000?
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 The Honda EU3000is is, reportedly, the most quiet generator available on the market of any type or size.  At idle, it's decibel rating is 49, which is less than half the volume of a normal conversation at 60 decibels.  IMHO, that is about the only advantage of going with that generator as opposed to dual 2 kW models.  The sound level will be significantly higher with the dual approach, but if you don't need your AC, you can power just one of them and save on fuel, plus they are much more mobile. | 
 
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  | mjh203   Newbie
 
   
 
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   Any idea if the noise of the Yamaha 2400 is much louder than a Honda 2000?
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  | mjh203   Newbie
 
   
 
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   How is the noise on the 3000?
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