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Subject: 9143
Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 11:09am

I have a 178 and tow with a 2014 Ford Explorer Limited.  Factory tow package and 3.7L V6.  It is rated for 5000 lbs.  It tows just fine.  My only issue is the gas tank.  Many SUV's have 18 gallon or less tanks where the truck normally have close to double that.  My Ford Explorer gets around 9-10 miles per gallon towing if you keep it under 60 MPH.  If not, your are looking at only 6-7 MPG.  If you are just looking for a tow vehicle then I would recommend a V8.  I use my Explorer for business, personal, & towing.

Good Luck,

Irish Tom


]]> Wed, 04 Jan 2017 11:09:31 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86478#86478 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : I opted for the F150 (wanted... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86477#86477 Author: Bama Pod
Subject: 9143
Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 7:23am

I opted for the F150 (wanted the 250 but too tall for garage) in case in the future we want to get a bigger camper if we find the RPod (our first RV) to be too small.  Yes, overkill for now, but not for maybe a 25 or 30 footer.
]]> Wed, 04 Jan 2017 07:23:40 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86477#86477 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : And, when you hit a deer head... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86473#86473 Author: jato
Subject: 9143
Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 7:36pm

And, when you hit a deer head on, I wouldn't want to be driving anything but a truck.

]]> Tue, 03 Jan 2017 19:36:52 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86473#86473 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : I have been driving trucks for... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86470#86470 Author: rda54
Subject: 9143
Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 6:14pm

I have been driving trucks for 45 years and you have to get use to how to park and take corners. There isn't anything I'd rather drive.]]> Tue, 03 Jan 2017 18:14:01 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86470#86470 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : The more often you tow, the more... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86468#86468 Author: Kickstart
Subject: 9143
Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 6:03pm

The more often you tow, the more you appreciate a full sized P/U. The more you drive in town, the better a mid sized feels. I've said it before--"love my full sized Tundra, except in those darn Costco parking lots."
I laughed out loud when reading CharlieM's statement--"the F150 is a beast of a truck to drive in a city."
]]> Tue, 03 Jan 2017 18:03:14 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86468#86468 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Originally posted by mjlrpod Thanks... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86453#86453 Author: StephenH
Subject: 9143
Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 10:27am

Originally posted by mjlrpod

Thanks for your input stephen, This is the truck i decided on. It has the trifold tonneau bed cover on it
 now, but not in the photo.

Nice truck. I looked at a couple of 2016 Frontiers that were at Carmax, but decided on the 2010 based on the equipment it had. It has heated leather seats, heated mirrors, and the Kenwood stereo system is good. The backup camera looks aftermarket (fastens to the license plate), but is apparently OEM as the Nissan logo comes up on the stereo unit. It does not seem to be the ideal location for a camera, but with a drop-down tailgate, I don't see where else one could be mounted on a pickup. It also has the tiedown rails on the floor of the bed as well as on the side and has the bed extender. That came in handy to help our younger daughter move some things.
I'm not sure why I was stuck on having an SUV before. The pickup has already proved to be useful, and the crew cab is almost like having the SUV with extra cargo space. The one-piece cover is a little harder to deal with than a trifold cover, but it is very nice and has no joints to leak. It really was the roof rack (I need to figure out how to mount our AeroPlus on it) and the bed cover that convinced me.
I do need to get back to Carmax though. It was sold as having satellite radio capability, but the satellite receiver module is either missing or not working. I need to find out which before the warranty period expires.
]]> Tue, 03 Jan 2017 10:27:21 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86453#86453 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Originally posted by OurPodJourneysYour... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86452#86452 Author: CharlieM
Subject: 9143
Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 8:48am

Originally posted by OurPodJourneys

Your responses are all helpful -- thanks!  We've moved from considering SUVs to pickups, and are down to deciding btwn Toyota Tacoma, Chevy Colorado and Ford F-150, all in V-6, for towing our 179.  Would appreciate any experiences or opinions regarding how they stack up against each other.  (At this point, considering only used TVs).

IMO any of these trucks, if properly equipped, would be fine. I have the 4.0L 2013 Tacoma and tow a trailer weighing ~1000# more empty. However, Toyota no longer offers the 4.0L engine, having downsized to 3.5 or so. Same with the Colorado. These engines are rated higher than the 4.0, but at a much higher RPM. Bad IMO. The F150 is a great truck, but somewhat overkill for the Pod. All that said, you should consider whether you will be towing at altitude. All engines run out of air and lose power at altitude. The answer is to start with a bigger engine or add a blower. I added a belt driven supercharger to my Tacoma but the turbochargers do the same thing. 2013 was the last year Toyota offered the S/C for the Tacoma. This tends to make an argument for the 3.5L EcoBoost F-150. In the end, any of your candidate trucks will work with your Pod. Some better than others, but the F-150 is a beast of a truck to drive in a city.
]]> Tue, 03 Jan 2017 08:48:57 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86452#86452 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Don't count out the Chevy... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86448#86448 Author: rda54
Subject: 9143
Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 11:29pm

Don't count out the Chevy 1500 the New motors are good on gas. The 2016 is quieter than my wife's Lincoln mkz. There all good if they get you to where your going.]]> Mon, 02 Jan 2017 23:29:28 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86448#86448 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Your responses are all helpful... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86447#86447 Author: OurPodJourneys
Subject: 9143
Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 10:06pm

Your responses are all helpful -- thanks!  We've moved from considering SUVs to pickups, and are down to deciding btwn Toyota Tacoma, Chevy Colorado and Ford F-150, all in V-6, for towing our 179.  Would appreciate any experiences or opinions regarding how they stack up against each other.  (At this point, considering only used TVs). ]]> Mon, 02 Jan 2017 22:06:37 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86447#86447 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : I started towing with an 02 Tacoma... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86421#86421 Author: Bugout
Subject: 9143
Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 3:19pm

I started towing with an 02 Tacoma six banger with no tow package 5000 tow rateing truck was ok and it was time to trade up bought a 2016 tacoma with tow package tow rateing 6800 love it gets about 12 mpg pulling my 178 at 65 mph]]> Mon, 02 Jan 2017 15:19:40 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86421#86421 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Nice frontier. I'm looking... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86387#86387 Author: CampCat
Subject: 9143
Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 10:17am

Nice frontier. I'm looking for a midsize tv. I'll be buying in about a year. I've been researching and following all the chats I can. Did you post this o FB to. Sounds familiar! I'll be following so be sure to post a follow up on cros and cons, if you don't mind. Ty and nice ride    ]]> Sun, 01 Jan 2017 10:17:34 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86387#86387 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : My 2014 Ford F150 w/ a 3.5 Ecoboost... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86377#86377 Author: grand beaver
Subject: 9143
Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 4:41pm

My 2014 Ford F150 w/ a 3.5 Ecoboost has been a superb TV!......if I was doing a purchase today I would look for a 2016 F150 SuperCab with the 2.7 liter Ecoboost. The combination of turbocharging (no loss of power @ elevation) with the low rpm torque of the Ecoboost engine can't be overstated. The trucks pull way harder with a load than you can ever imagine. The 2.7 Eco will get a bit better mileage than my 3.5 Eco when not towing. Find one with a 36 gal tank and the range between fuelups is great (an important consideration out West). Most of these trucks will come from the factory already set up with Sway control, towing brake controllers and trans coolers. Many of the 2016's are heavily discounted right now making them a great choice! ]]> Sat, 31 Dec 2016 16:41:17 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86377#86377 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : I have the same truck except it's... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86373#86373 Author: ronahue
Subject: 9143
Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 2:56pm

I have the same truck except it's a King Cab instead of Crew Cab I think you will be very happy with it as a TV.
Maybe we will see you around some of the Massachusetts campgrounds we particularly like Nickerson State Park on the Cape.

Congratulations 
]]> Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:56:39 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86373#86373 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Thanks for your input stephen,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86369#86369 Author: mjlrpod
Subject: 9143
Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 2:04pm

Thanks for your input stephen, This is the truck i decided on. It has the trifold tonneau bed cover on it
 now, but not in the photo.

]]> Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:04:27 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86369#86369 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Agreed! It does not make sense... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86343#86343 Author: StephenH
Subject: 9143
Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 9:47pm

Agreed! It does not make sense to hide specification.  They are important to help one make a decision on what to purchase.]]> Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:47:41 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86343#86343 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : I actually saw the tranny cooler... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86338#86338 Author: mjlrpod
Subject: 9143
Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 10:29am

I actually saw the tranny cooler in the one i'm buying. I'm gonna bring it down to my mechanic and get his opinion on what it has/ doesnt have. I called Nissan headquarters, and THEY couldnt tell me. I'm pretty sure it has everything i want, i got bits and pieces from car and driver , edmunds, etc., but it would be so much nicer if they would simply document it. I will certainly be making them aware that they are really being foolish to not make this more easily known.]]> Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:29:00 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86338#86338 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Unfortunately, I can't tell... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86336#86336 Author: StephenH
Subject: 9143
Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 10:00am

Unfortunately, I can't tell what amperage the alternator is by looking. I believe i did see a transmission cooler when I looked. In any case, temperatures did not seem to be an issue when we towed over the mountain passes between Utah and Arizona.]]> Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:00:41 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86336#86336 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Stephencan you tell me what your... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86325#86325 Author: mjlrpod
Subject: 9143
Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 2:32pm

Stephen
can you tell me what your vehicle has for towing? Does it have a tranny cooler? 130 amp alt? Do you know how to tell?

]]> Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:32:15 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86325#86325 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Now that I have had the chance... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86322#86322 Author: StephenH
Subject: 9143
Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 10:44am

Now that I have had the chance to do a major tow of our EscaPOD, (South Jordan, Utah to Gilbert, Arizona) with the 2010 Nissan Frontier LE with 4wd, I can comment on how it tows. Overall, I am quite pleased. I don't think I had the hitch adjusted quite right, so I readjusted it in preparation for the next leg of our trip.

As I suspected, even though it has a larger engine than the one in our Escape (4L V6 vs. 2L turbocharged I4), it struggled more in the mountains. The Ecoboost is a marvelous feature as it maintained power in the mountains. I could tell that the naturally aspirated V6 lost power as we gained in altitude. At 6,000+ feet, there was a definite drop-off in power. Trying to maintain 60-65 mph on some of the climbs was not going to happen, even though the transmission downshifted into 2nd gear several times. In spite of this, I am still pleased with the Frontier. It is much less expensive to use 87 Octane regular instead of having to use premium. We are getting about 11 mpg. The Frontier we have is only rated 19 mpg highway, so the half is about right. We got as low as about 9 mph with the Escape under similar conditions.

I still would like to get a Diesel engine tow vehicle some day. I could have purchased an older F250 for about the same price from a private individual, but it had some problems, so we went with the Frontier from Carmax. So far, it has worked out okay. I think you will be okay with the 2015 Frontier.

One excellent thing is that you can get the wiring harness to plug in a brake controller. The Bargman connector is there and all it takes is a short wiring harness to plug the connector into the pre-wired connector above the gas pedal under the dash. It only took a few minutes to get the Hopkins InSIGHT controller installed instead of the hours it took with the Escape. My wife likes the seating in the Frontier. She says it is better than that of the Escape. She likes sitting up a bit higher.
]]> Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:44:42 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86322#86322 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Ditto. If they can't provide... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86321#86321 Author: Leo B
Subject: 9143
Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 10:40am

Ditto. If they can't provide the information, then I wouldn't buy from them. They should know their product.]]> Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:40:24 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86321#86321 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Go ask the service manager about... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86320#86320 Author: john in idaho
Subject: 9143
Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 10:17am

Go ask the service manager about the contents of the tow package.  He also will have access to service bulletins.]]> Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:17:55 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86320#86320 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Not sure what vehicle you all... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86316#86316 Author: mjlrpod
Subject: 9143
Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 8:52pm

Not sure what vehicle you all ended up with "ourjourneys" but for me, i'm going down to sign papers on a 2015 nissan frontier tomorrow as long as they dont screw with me on my trade in. Really hard to find all the info on towing package on nissan frontier. All they know is it can tow 6100 pounds (some say 6500) they have no idea of tranny coolers, or 130 amp alternators. It took me days to find the info, and the dealer cant even find it. I'm fairly certain it has all the same tow package as the tacoma. if anyone knows different, please do tell]]> Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:52:02 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86316#86316 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : 31 deer, that's impressive!! ... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86257#86257 Author: Leo B
Subject: 9143
Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 5:53pm

31 deer, that's impressive!!]]> Sun, 25 Dec 2016 17:53:25 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86257#86257 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Since purchasing our 177 back... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86255#86255 Author: jato
Subject: 9143
Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 5:19pm

Since purchasing our 177 back in March of 2011 we used our 2008 Ford Explorer with a 4.0L V-6 with 230 HP and worked quite well for us although it was working when we would travel through the Rockies, nevertheless we would get 12 mpg with it.  This spring we upgraded to a 2013 Explorer with 3.5L V-6 and 290 HP.  This definitely has more power and the towing mpg has increased to 13, it works for us.  This is our run about vehicle so we use it mainly for town runs and then for towing when vacationing.  Our only other vehicle is a 94 F-150 with 309,000 miles, stick shift 5.0 V-8 with 31 deer kills, body is rough but is a good wood hauler/work vehicle.]]> Sun, 25 Dec 2016 17:19:39 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86255#86255 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : I to am in search of a tv.... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86253#86253 Author: CampCat
Subject: 9143
Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 4:17pm

I to am in search of a tv. It will be my daily driver 1st so empty weight gas mileage and reliability are paramount to me. Luckily the field is flooded with combinations of these. These are the top contenders in my book. If I where strictly thinking towing I'd probably look a a full size 1/2 ton. Again there're many great options. 

I use this YouTube channel "TFL truck" and consumer reports as my favorite research sites. They don't test many midsize SUVs, at least not for towing. They test many off-road.

Ford eco boost F-150 http://youtu.be/-mT_2iWib-c

The eco boost has many videos on TFL-truck. The diesel Colorado, at this point, is out of my budget. I've tried to list them I order of price. Of course the options packages can wildly swing this. 
I hope this helps
Patrick

]]> Sun, 25 Dec 2016 16:17:08 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86253#86253 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Check out the Chevy Colorado and... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86227#86227 Author: mcarter
Subject: 9143
Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 5:24pm

Check out the Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon for those of you like me who want a mid size and US made. Towing capacity is more than adequate for RPods and larger TTs. Many options.]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2016 17:24:07 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86227#86227 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : It's been said/noted before... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86223#86223 Author: ToolmanJohn
Subject: 9143
Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 12:12pm

It's been said/noted before on fuel economy:

Towing MPG will be about 1/2 of normal non-towing MPG. It's almost always the wind resistance at speeds over 50 mph that cause the plummet in fuel economy. Nothing that can be done about it. Just live with it.

 If towing infrequently or shorter distances, gas is probably the way to go.  If planning cross country trekking long distances, then maybe diesel will provide lower towing fuel costs and better all-around towing experiences.
]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2016 12:12:47 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86223#86223 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : We have a 2010 Highlander with... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86222#86222 Author: Wood River Pod
Subject: 9143
Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 11:01am

We have a 2010 Highlander with factory tow package.  Only came with 4 pin adapter.  Rated for 5,000.  We lover our Highlander.  It's been more than enough for our ClackaCraft drift boat.  That being said, it does ok with our early 2017 179 HRE.
Cons
  • Back end drops an inch or two when we hook up.  Our dealer took the Curt ball mount with attached sway ball plank and 3.5 (?) inch drop and turned it upside down to get the trailer level with the Highlander.  Highlander has struts, so no air bag option.
  • We added a 7 pin and trailer brake brain/unit.  It works just fine, but I'd be lying if didn't admit the factory integrated trailer brake on these new shinny pick-ups isn't going unnoticed.
  • The gas mileage is cut in half.  At 65mph we were getting well over 20.  Now at 60 were getting 10/11ish.
  • We live in Idaho and have to deal with mountains.  While we have not taken the pod up over Galena Summit (8,700), we did have some rollers on the highway back home from SLC.  It did it just fine, but she was panting.    Definitely no cruise control and no overdrive.
Pros
  • We own it!
I've been long time Toyota owner.  The Highlander is a great rig, but if you are going to log some miles podding, I'd look at something else.  Tundra?
Good Luck!
]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:01:57 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86222#86222 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : A friend of mine who is a mechanic... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86218#86218 Author: Leo B
Subject: 9143
Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 9:55am

A friend of mine who is a mechanic told me that he sees a lot of Toyota's here in northern Vermont with well over 200,000 miles on them  and they are still running]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2016 09:55:57 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86218#86218 New Podders deciding btwn tow vehicles : Great point to consider the open... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86217#86217 Author: mjlrpod
Subject: 9143
Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 8:57am

Great point to consider the open bed for the generator, gas can, or extra propane tank. I think im sold on the pickup idea now. Plus, like i said before, this is a tow vehicle.  I want the highest tow capacity possible , out of the vehicles in this price range. Here is what is really going to make the difference i think. I did a look into the future. I did a KBB trade in value comparison between tacoma and frontier. I put both vehicles in as 5 years old, with 110,000 miles and the same equipment. The tacoma listed a 6,000 dollar higher trade in value according to kelly. Tacoma had an average value of $16,500, frontier 10,400. The purchase price tends to be about 2,200 higher on the tacoma, but you sure get it back in the end]]> Sat, 24 Dec 2016 08:57:14 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9143&PID=86217#86217