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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle :   Originally posted by GlueGuyCV...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 Oct 2020 at 8:38am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by GlueGuy</strong></em><br /><br />CV transmission? That would be a deal breaker for sure WRT towing.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>The Toyota hybrid drive isn't a conventional CVT with a belt and variable diameter pulleys if that's what you're thinking. Those are limited to pretty low power capacity.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The hybrid drive is actually a planetary gearset which is continuously engaged. The ICE is connected to the planetary gear carrier, one electric motor (MG1) is connected to the sun gear, and one (MG2) to the ring gear, which is also connected to the final drive. By varying the speed and direction of rotation of the two motors, the system can keep the ICE operating in the desired rpm range, as well as change the power flow to either draw from the battery to augment the ICE if high power is needed or charge the battery from the ICE if there is extra power available, or shut off the ICE entirely. MG2 runs in reverse to back up the vehicle, and MG1 is used to start the ICE.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Toyota calls it an e-CVT but it really has nothing in common with a conventional CVT. It is a very robust and reliable drivetrain, with far fewer moving parts than a conventional transmission.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>So, why not tow with one? For me, the answer was simple, Toyota limits the Highlander Hybrid to 3500/350 which is a show stopper.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Other reasons not to tow with one:</div><div><br></div><div>in early HiHy's when Toyota first scaled up the drive system from the Prius there were some cases where the cars bricked themselves on the highway due to overtemp shutdown in the ac motor drives (which are essentially the same thing as&nbsp; inverters but with variable frequency output). Not good. I haven't heard that to be a problem in more recent models but I haven't checked either.</div><div><br></div><div>The hybrid drive is FWD only, to get AWD Toyota adds an electric motor for the rear wheels. Rear drive is for me essential for towing, but the rear motor is pretty low horsepower, IIRC about 60. That might be fine for those low traction situations but I didn't want to take that chance.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Hybrids do the most to improve efficiency under light to moderate power demand, where the extra power available from the ICE can be used to charge the battery and it can be shut off part of the time. At high power demand the ICE has to run all the time so they don't improve efficiency much. So towing on the highway is not their strong suit. I doubt the fuel economy towing would be much different between the hybrid and standard versions.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The HiHy has a smaller fuel tank than the standard Highlander (17 vs 19 gal). That doesn't sound like much but its actually a significant improvement in range while towing.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>All that being said, I would definitely consider a hybrid if the towing capacity could be bumped up in the 5000/500 range and the cars had proven reliable after a few years of operation at those higher loads. No way I'd buy a new one anyway, way too expensive for me.&nbsp;<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0" alt="Star" title="Star" />&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : It might be doable. This site...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2020 at 8:47pm<br /><br /><div>It might be doable. This site says it is possible as long as weights are not exceeded.</div><div><a href="http://www.nissantechnicianinfo.mobi/htmlversi&#111;ns/2015_CVT_Special/Towing.html" target="_blank">http://www.nissantechnicianinfo.mobi/htmlversions/2015_CVT_Special/Towing.html</a><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2020 20:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : CV transmission? That would be...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2020 at 6:30pm<br /><br />CV transmission? That would be a deal breaker for sure WRT towing.]]>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : That is a good point. The dealer...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2020 at 11:11am<br /><br />That is a good point. The dealer won't install it, but you can either do it yourself or find a shop to do it if you don't want to. Towing with a hybrid is an interesting idea. The electric motors should provide plenty of torque and the gasoline motor should provide the range you would need. The part that would concern me is the CV Transmission. I don't know if it would stand up to the load.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2020 11:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : Please correct me if I&#226;&#8364;&#8482;m wrong...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2020 at 10:35am<br /><br />Please correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t believe Lexus said they don’t allow brake controllers. They said they  don’t install them. That’s fine. Probably there are other manufacturers who won’t install brake controllers or other aftermarket parts either. If you want to have a brake controller installed in a Lexus, go somewhere else to do it or do it yourself. <br /><br />That being said, I wouldn’t tow my 179 with the Lexus. The RX450h has the Toyota hybrid synergy drive, its the same car as the Highlander Hybrid with a different badge. Both have a 3500 lb tow rating. I like that drivetrain and originally wanted to get a HiHy to tow my 179 but after researching it got a V6 standard drivetrain Highlander with tow package and 5000 lb rating. I have no idea what Toyota’s response would have been if I had asked them to install my brake controller because I did it myself. ]]>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : Getting back to the question about...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2020 at 10:05am<br /><br />Getting back to the question about a brake controller for the Lexus. If Lexus does not approve using a brake controller, then they are kind of saying that you can't tow over 3000 lbs (or whatever the state allows) without a brake controller.]]>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : There are electric disk brakes...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2020 at 7:52am<br /><br />There are electric disk brakes but for parking only, they use little gear motors so most likely too slow for regular braking. ]]>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : I have not seen any electrically...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Sep 2020 at 7:39pm<br /><br />I have not seen any electrically operated disc brakes. I think the hydraulic is to generate the braking force which is much higher than the electric drum brakes can generate.]]>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : Electric over hydraulic is just...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Sep 2020 at 7:20pm<br /><br />Electric over hydraulic is just so complex, I wonder if its possible to directly actuate the calipers electrically. There are electric parking brake systems in use, but I think they use actuating motors on the calipers so they're probably not fast enough for on the road braking. Of course, all hybrids and ev's do direct electric braking using the electric drive motor as a generator.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msYtRnoOAI0" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msYtRnoOAI0</a><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 19:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : I think electric over hydraulic...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Sep 2020 at 6:47pm<br /><br />I think electric over hydraulic disc brakes were adopted, economy of scale would bring the cost down to a more reasonable price. However, since we are still stuck with the older drum brakes, to convert would cost a lot. I have not found a kit suitable for the RPods either.&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 18:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle :   Originally posted by StephenHBetter...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Sep 2020 at 3:16pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by StephenH</strong></em><br /><br />Better than either system would be electric over hydraulic disc brakes. However, that is a very expensive proposition at this point.<br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>+1, that would bring trailer brake technology from 1930's tech into the second half of the 20th century. Even 1930's farm tractors have braking systems comparable to what rPods have. Then we couid also have ABS on our trailers.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : Better than either system would...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Sep 2020 at 2:32pm<br /><br />Better than either system would be electric over hydraulic disc brakes. However, that is a very expensive proposition at this point.<br>]]>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : I would guess that&amp;#039;s its...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Sep 2020 at 10:24am<br /><br />I would guess that's its because the electric brakes are less expensive. My Euro horse trailer with surge brakes has a hitch assembly that flexes in and out and actuates a set of rods and cables that are connected to levers in the brake drums. Works great, very smooth, no fiddling with brake controller adjustments, and more reliable I think.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>All electric brakes have are a couple of electromagnets and some wires, gotta be a lot cheaper for the trailer manufacturer, although overall cost including the brake controller is probably not much lower.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle :   Surge brakes are the most...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Sep 2020 at 10:16am<br /><br />Surge brakes are the most common braking system used in Europe for caravans. &nbsp;They don't seem to like electric brake systems, so no one worries about installing brake controllers in their TV's. &nbsp;I'm sure each system has its detractors and advocates and that the debate rages on and on. &nbsp;Does anyone know why we don't see surge brakes here on light weight travel trailers? &nbsp;&#091;Maybe a new thread should be started on this topic, but it comes up often with vehicles that have marginal towing capacity and no provisions for an easy installation of an electric brake controller.&#093;]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle :  Certainly if Lexus said that...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Sep 2020 at 8:19am<br /><br />Certainly if Lexus said that trailer brakes are not required for trailers weighing less than 3500 lbs that is wrong information. Most states limit is 3000. But the state regs are based on actual gross trailer weight, not empty weight and not max gross weight. We all know that most rPods weigh less than 3000 empty but will go down the road weighing more than 3000 lbs, and quite commonly more than 3500,&nbsp; but unless the state trooper has a set of portable scales with him how would anyone know?&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Regardless, Lexus is absolutely within their rights as a manufacturer to refuse to install aftermarket equipment in their vehicles. If I were them I wouldn't do it either. Why accept the liability?&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Also, the state regs don't specify how the trailer brakes need to function, just that they do. I have a horse trailer that&nbsp; weighs about 4000 lbs if I load it with two animals and it is perfectly legal to operate without a brake controller in the TV. It has surge brakes. So, specifying a max tow rating of 3500 (which is done to a specific standard not set by Lexus) while not recommending or installing electric brake controllers in their vehicles is not unreasonable on Lexus' part.&nbsp;</div></div><div><br></div><div>I look at it this way: by dissuading customers from getting trailers that require electric brakes and will weigh more than 3000 lbs, Lexus is doing its customers a favor. We all know that the tow vehicle ratings are bogus because they allow for nothing to be loaded in the TV. The extra 500 lbs provides at least a little margin for carrying stuff and people and towing a trailer.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : Lexus is giving you wrong information....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 Sep 2020 at 7:04pm<br /><br /><div>Lexus is giving you wrong information. If the vehicle is rated to 3500, the law requires brakes to be working if they are on the trailer. In NC, a house trailer (I read that to include camping trailers) of 1,000 lbs or more is legally required to have brakes controlled by the driver of the tow vehicle. Other states say that any trailer over 3,000 lbs must have brakes. That includes Washington. If Lexus gives the vehicle a 3500 lb tow rating, and if the law states trailers over 3000 lbs requires brakes, then Lexus needs to install a brake controller.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Now, I do agree that the Lexus is marginal for the task though. You would be better served with a vehicle of higher tow capacity.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 Sep 2020 at 4:07pm<br /><br />+1 to Offgrid, vehicle is not right.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 Sep 2020 at 1:02pm<br /><br />For the record, I agree with Lexus, the trailer you have is too heavy for a 3500 lb rated tow vehicle.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>That being said, you should be able to have any trailer shop install a brake controller for you if you want to proceed, its not difficult.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : The parts have been obtained and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10709" rel="nofollow">BMac12345</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 Sep 2020 at 11:12am<br /><br />The parts have been obtained and taken to Lexus. Lexus "is not allowed to install" something that will assist with braking because that would encourage/allow Lexus owners of this vehicle to tow something greater than 3500 pounds, which is the maximum towing capacity of this vehicle. Lexus specifically said this equipment is not required to tow a vehicle 3500 pounds or less, so they wouldn't install it. Interesting.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 Sep 2020 at 5:39am<br /><br />I would be inclined to go somewhere else if you've been to uhaul already and they didn't get you set up right. Uhaul places are hit or miss in their expertise and focus on that part of their business. Many are just rental locations with some trucks and trailers on a lot.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Regardless of who you have put it in, you as the driver need to understand what a brake controller does and how to set it up properly and confirm it and your trailer brakes are working as they should. Its not hard, just part of what you need to know to tow safely. So, after you get your rig back from whoever, get out the manual, go to a big empty parking lot and do the set up and test procedure yourself before your next trip.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2020 05:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : I wold hope so. If you have not...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Sep 2020 at 8:37pm<br /><br /><div>I wold hope so. If you have not already purchased a brake controller, make sure you get a proportional controller and not a time delay controller. The proportional one will apply the trailer brakes in proportion as needed to match the rate the tow vehicle is slowing. Time delay just starts out and builds the braking force without consideration of how much braking force the tow vehicle is using. Time Delay controllers are as one might expect, cheaper. Proportional ones are more expensive, but you do get what you pay for. Don't let them talk you into a time delay one.</div><div><br></div><div>Ones to consider: Tekonsha Prodigy P3; Tekonsha Prodigy P2/ Hopkins InSIGHT Flex-Mount (the one I have), Redarc Tow-Pro Elite (can be mounted with only a small control button visible); or Curt Spectrum (similar to Redarc with only small control knob visible). There are others, but take a look at these on etrailer.com and read up on them before you let the U-Haul dealer talk you into something that you would find inadequate later on.<br></div>]]>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : Thanks for the info, all! I&#226;&#8364;&#8482;m...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10709" rel="nofollow">BMac12345</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Sep 2020 at 8:07pm<br /><br />Thanks for the info, all! I’m going to discuss this with U-Haul tomorrow. Think they would know about this stuff and how to handle it all? I wouldn’t trust myself to do it.]]>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle : You can&amp;#039;t bank on Lexus thinking...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Sep 2020 at 7:49pm<br /><br /><div>You can't bank on Lexus thinking you would be towing a trailer that required a 7-pin connector to operate electric brakes. I had a 2016 Ford Escape SE with factory installed tow package. It came with a 2" receiver, but only&nbsp; a 4 pin connector like your Lexus has. In order to add the brake controller, I had to purchase a wiring kit from eTrailer to add the missing 7-pin connector myself along with the required wiring for the brake and 12v power. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Looking on the Lexus site, the towing prep package includes things like heavy-duty radiator and cooling fan plus oil and transmission coolers. It says nothing about heavy-duty alternator or wiring for trailer brake system. Etrailer says that without the 7-way, you need this kit to install a brake controller:</div><div><a href="https://www.etrailer.com/p-ETBC7L.html" target="_blank">https://www.etrailer.com/p-ETBC7L.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Without a brake controller, you run the risk of an accident. Please install one. If the trailer comes with electric brakes, and the RPods do, you are required to have them operational, especially since the weight of a loaded RPod is most likely to exceed 3,000 lbs. Don't tow without a working controller please. There are wireless ones now that make installing a controller easier, but that does not eliminate the need for a 7-way connector.<br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2020 19:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Charging battery while connected to tow vehicle :   Originally posted by BMac12345A...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Sep 2020 at 7:47pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by BMac12345</strong></em><br /><br />A couple friends of ours told us yesterday that with just four wires, there is no way there would be power to the Rpod battery. The four wires would only control the lights on the trailer. This didn’t seem to be the case the last time we towed the Rpod. Regarding the electric brakes, I’m not sure the answer. My assumption was Lexus knew what they were doing installing the tow hitch, and the Rpod manufacturer knew what they were doing understanding that not all wiring connections will be supported by every car manufacturer. Incorrect assumption? Possibly. But I wouldn’t know what to do in order to cram 7 connections from the Rpod into just 4 on the car. Suggestions?</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Yep, incorrect assumption. If you don't have a brake controller you need one. You can buy one and install it yourself if you feel comfortable, or have an RV or trailer place do it. They will install a 7 way connector on the Lexus at the same time, and you'll be good to go for both charging and brakes. If you decide to do it yourself I recommend the Tekonsha Prodigy P2. Does everything you need it to without a lot of frills.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2297" rel="nofollow">fwunder</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Sep 2020 at 7:22pm<br /><br /><div>Old thread...but...</div><div><br></div><div>Some vehicles like my 4Runner only charge when lights are on. Weird, huh? <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10709" rel="nofollow">BMac12345</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Sep 2020 at 7:03pm<br /><br />A couple friends of ours told us yesterday that with just four wires, there is no way there would be power to the Rpod battery. The four wires would only control the lights on the trailer. This didn’t seem to be the case the last time we towed the Rpod. Regarding the electric brakes, I’m not sure the answer. My assumption was Lexus knew what they were doing installing the tow hitch, and the Rpod manufacturer knew what they were doing understanding that not all wiring connections will be supported by every car manufacturer. Incorrect assumption? Possibly. But I wouldn’t know what to do in order to cram 7 connections from the Rpod into just 4 on the car. Suggestions?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Sep 2020 at 6:26pm<br /><br />There is no charge converter joining the two vehicles. When you are towing the alternator in your tow vehicle is charging both your TV and trailer batteries. The two batteries are connected in parallel by the 7 way connector. When camping, you should disconnect the connector so that you don't discharge the tow vehicle battery into your trailer loads. Otherwise you could end up with a dead battery in the TV at some point.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>To clarify one thing, do you have a brake controller in the Lexus? A flat 4 connector doesn't provide an output to control the electric brakes.&nbsp; You need to have that in order to legally and safely tow a trailer the weight of ab rpod.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10709" rel="nofollow">BMac12345</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Sep 2020 at 5:57pm<br /><br />We did our first dry camping adventure two weekends ago, and the battery go down to around 1/3 by the end of the two days. By the time we got home, the battery was fully charged. The 2018 Rpod 178 has a 7-pin connector, and the 2011 Lexus RX450h has a 4-pin connector, and there’s obviously some converter we got that joins the two. So apparently the car recharges the Rpod battery while driving? Or while connected but not driving? Irritating that the owner’s manual seems to mention none of this.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1895" rel="nofollow">Craneman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Aug 2017 at 10:44pm<br /><br />With the vehicle running check your battery on the pod ,with a &nbsp;VOM it should read around 13.8 volts, if it reads only 12 volts it's not charging. &nbsp; &nbsp;<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Moe</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7197" rel="nofollow">Roadrunner</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 8289<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Aug 2017 at 10:33pm<br /><br />How can I check if my tv is charging the ttt battery?]]>
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