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   <title>tow vehicle question : Can you give me more thoughts...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5319" rel="nofollow">julieboyles</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 May 2016 at 7:21pm<br /><br />Can you give me more thoughts about the Highlander. I'm buying a 2016 178 and am looking for a tow vehicle. I looked at Tacomas, Forerunners, and Highlanders. The Highlander, for me, would also be the right combo between 5,000 tow cap and comfort with decent gas mileage. I want to make the right choice because I'm not one to trade vehicles very often.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1100" rel="nofollow">Leo B</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Mar 2016 at 9:04pm<br /><br /><img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Mar 2016 at 8:38pm<br /><br />BOOM]]>
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   <title>tow vehicle question :   Originally posted by furpodNO...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1653" rel="nofollow">Tars Tarkas</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Mar 2016 at 8:37pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by furpod</strong></em><br /><br /><br><br>NO ONE EVER complains they have to much tow vehicle. NO ONE.<br><br></td></tr></table><br><br>I just quoted you without realizing it.&nbsp; I knew I'd seen this recently though....<br><br>TT<br>]]>
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   <title>tow vehicle question :    Originally posted by StephenHThere...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3880" rel="nofollow">dacolson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Mar 2016 at 9:30am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by StephenH</strong></em><br /><br />There were several other videos of diesel trucks vs. autos. One can't say that all of them red-lighted, but all of them smoked the gas powered "super" cars. When they were on the line, the diesels sounded like jet engines spinning up. It was, of course, the turbochargers.<br><br>I also saw a couple where things did not go so well. In one, the diesel's engine block left parts on the track, but still beat the car. In another, the truck was on a dynamometer and one of the turbochargers came through the grill. It was a bit of interesting viewing. I don't have anywhere near the kind of money it would take to put together such a rig.<br></td></tr></table><div>With my luck, that would be me. Green light ... PARTS FLYING.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>tow vehicle question :   Originally posted by David Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3880" rel="nofollow">dacolson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Mar 2016 at 9:29am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dacolson</strong></em><br /><br /><br><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br />There is an old drag racer saying:<br><br>"Torque gets you off the line(launches).  Horsepower wins the race."<br><br>Just saying...you know....</td></tr></table><div>Tell the guy in this truck&nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><div>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=54JCBM0MJpY</div><div></div></div></td></tr></table> <br><br>Interesting viewing.  The truck "red lighted" (jumped the start). It is hard to know if the 'vette "stayed in it" - knowing the truck was DQed.  He seemed a bit slow off the line.  In looking at the speeds and ETs, the 'vette was bone stock and the truck modified.  It would be interesting to look under the hood of both to see what kind of engines and modifications had been done. The Corvette could have had any number of engines in it.  Still 100 mph in the 1/4 is impressive for a truck tipping the scales in the 7000lbs. neighborhood. <br><br>This is kind of an apples to oranges thing to me.  That said, if a person is wanting to tow a heavy load and has the wallet to handle it, the kerosene burner is about as good as it gets, generally speaking.<br><br>However, if all bets are off, with any modifications allowed and money is no object....<br><br>John Force Racing is located in Brownsburg, near me.  I bet he could wup 'em both in the 1/4 -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>even with a Pod in tow!</em> (with them not towing anything) <br><br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro3Awc-ThAY" target="_blank">John Force</a><br><br><br><br> <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <br><br></td></tr></table><div>LOL. I love this stuff. Could watch these videos all day. I just see dollar signs billowing out of those stacks!<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0" alt="Star" title="Star" /></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>tow vehicle question : There were several other videos...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Mar 2016 at 9:09am<br /><br />There were several other videos of diesel trucks vs. autos. One can't say that all of them red-lighted, but all of them smoked the gas powered "super" cars. When they were on the line, the diesels sounded like jet engines spinning up. It was, of course, the turbochargers.<br><br>I also saw a couple where things did not go so well. In one, the diesel's engine block left parts on the track, but still beat the car. In another, the truck was on a dynamometer and one of the turbochargers came through the grill. It was a bit of interesting viewing. I don't have anywhere near the kind of money it would take to put together such a rig.<br>]]>
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   <title>tow vehicle question :  Originally posted by dacolson  Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Mar 2016 at 8:08am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dacolson</strong></em><br /><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br />There is an old drag racer saying:<br /><br />"Torque gets you off the line(launches).  Horsepower wins the race."<br /><br />Just saying...you know....</td></tr></table><div>Tell the guy in this truck <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><div>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=54JCBM0MJpY</div><div></div></div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Interesting viewing.  The truck "red lighted" (jumped the start). It is hard to know if the 'vette "stayed in it" - knowing the truck was DQed.  He seemed a bit slow off the line.  In looking at the speeds and ETs, the 'vette was bone stock and the truck modified.  It would be interesting to look under the hood of both to see what kind of engines and modifications had been done. The Corvette could have had any number of engines in it.  Still 100 mph in the 1/4 is impressive for a truck tipping the scales in the 7000lbs. neighborhood. <br /><br />This is kind of an apples to oranges thing to me.  That said, if a person is wanting to tow a heavy load and has the wallet to handle it, the kerosene burner is about as good as it gets, generally speaking.<br /><br />However, if all bets are off, with any modifications allowed and money is no object....<br /><br />John Force Racing is located in Brownsburg, near me.  I bet he could wup 'em both in the 1/4 -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>even with a Pod in tow!</em> (with them not towing anything) <br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro3Awc-ThAY" target="_blank">John Force</a><br /><br /><br /><br /> <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>tow vehicle question :  Originally posted by David Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4956" rel="nofollow">Patriot Dave</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Mar 2016 at 3:49am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Patriot Dave</strong></em><br /><br />&#091;QUOTE=David&#093;  &#091;QUOTE=Patriot Dave&#093;<br /><br />Thanks for the reply.<br />Well at least i know what to expect. I will be looking at possible replacements and choose something by the end of summer. <br />The Ranger has 145,000 on it so It will be time anyway.</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Really, you are in a great position and your plan is also great.  You'll get enough "road time" to determine, first hand, what 207 ponies will do for you.  You'll have a good idea of what you need at the end of the season.  I made it thru one season with the GMC Canyon and bought a 5.3L Silverado, that November. <br /><br />I feel sorry for whoever bought that Canyon.  <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0" align="middle" /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />The Ranger has been a great small truck. It is my second one and I know it should easily make 200,000 miles. It has yet to give me any trouble and nor did the first one. The Off Road package has been good. There have been times I have spent 4 straight days in 4 wheel getting around northern Michigan in non-stop snow going to steelhead fishing holes. Did not get stuck one time. Often pushing snow with my front bumper. And the bodies hold up well. Gas mileage is not all that great due to the 4:11 rear end though. ]]>
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   <title>tow vehicle question :   Originally posted by DavidThere...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3880" rel="nofollow">dacolson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 10:03pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br />There is an old drag racer saying:<br><br>"Torque gets you off the line(launches).  Horsepower wins the race."<br><br>Just saying...you know....</td></tr></table><div>Tell the guy in this truck&nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><div>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=54JCBM0MJpY</div><div><br></div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>tow vehicle question :  Originally posted by StephenH See...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4956" rel="nofollow">Patriot Dave</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 9:30pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by StephenH</strong></em><br /><br /><br />See the chart on page 18 of Ford's towing guide for the 2006 model year:<a href="http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/2006RVguideApr08.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/2006RVguideApr08.pdf</a>If I am reading it correctly, your Ranger has a towing limit of 5580 lbs or 5300 lbs with FX4 Level II. It SHOULD be adequate.<br /><br />Stephan, you are correct Sir. That is the model truck that I own. Thanks for taking the time to dig out the info. As you said, I should be okay. Especially since most of my towing will be on flat surfaces with an occasional set of rolling hills.<br /><br /><br /></td></tr></table> ]]>
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   <title>tow vehicle question : I am with you furpod. Our 1994...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1146" rel="nofollow">jato</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 9:21pm<br /><br />I am with you furpod.&nbsp; Our 1994 Ford F-150 with 5.0 L V-8&nbsp; 300,000 plus miles, now a rustbucket (thank you Michigan salt) but still runs well, clutch still strong, love driving a stick, 5 speed with OD on the floor.]]>
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   <title>tow vehicle question :    Originally posted by DavidThere...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5088" rel="nofollow">Retroactive</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 7:37pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br />There is an old drag racer saying:<br><br>"Torque gets you off the line(launches).  Horsepower wins the race."<br><br>Just saying...you know....</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>The one I heard was from an old loop racer, but that was during an argument about people tricking themselves into believing a 4-cyl with the same HP as V-6 are going to get the same street performance for all around sporty driving...then again, maybe I was baked. The point I was actually getting at is that humans are in general easily manipulated media puppets, that is why ads for cars always emphasize horsepower (think of how every beer ad in the 1980's had blonde girls in bikinis). People always savor the shill of "new and improved!", to think they need it to keep up with the Jonses. The only car ads that emphasize torque are usually muscle cars. It is relatively easy for car companies to squeeze a few HP out of a I-4 every few years, If Torque was as easy to increase in the agrarian sounding 4-CYL then the ads would show a lot more clinically depressed suburban commuter dads doing smoking launches at stoplights.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>tow vehicle question :  Originally posted by furpod  Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 5:39pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by furpod</strong></em><br /><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Patriot Dave</strong></em><br /><br />&#091;QUOTE=David&#093;  &#091;QUOTE=Patriot Dave&#093;<br /><br />Thanks for the reply.<br />Well at least i know what to expect. I will be looking at possible replacements and choose something by the end of summer. <br />The Ranger has 145,000 on it so It will be time anyway.</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Really, you are in a great position and your plan is also great.  You'll get enough "road time" to determine, first hand, what 207 ponies will do for you.  You'll have a good idea of what you need at the end of the season.  I made it thru one season with the GMC Canyon and bought a 5.3L Silverado, that November. <br /><br />I feel sorry for whoever bought that Canyon.  <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0" align="middle" /></td></tr></table>I feel sorry for anyone who buys a Canyon.. but, hey, that's just me. <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0" alt="T&#111;ngue" title="T&#111;ngue" /></td></tr></table> <br /><br /><br /> <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" />  <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" />  <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <br /><br />You do have me curious about the Ford turbo mentioned.  I'll have to research that.]]>
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   <title>tow vehicle question :   Originally posted by David Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=936" rel="nofollow">furpod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 5:37pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Patriot Dave</strong></em><br /><br />&#091;QUOTE=David&#093;  &#091;QUOTE=Patriot Dave&#093;<br><br>Thanks for the reply.<br>Well at least i know what to expect. I will be looking at possible replacements and choose something by the end of summer. <br>The Ranger has 145,000 on it so It will be time anyway.</td></tr></table> <br><br>Really, you are in a great position and your plan is also great.  You'll get enough "road time" to determine, first hand, what 207 ponies will do for you.  You'll have a good idea of what you need at the end of the season.  I made it thru one season with the GMC Canyon and bought a 5.3L Silverado, that November. <br><br>I feel sorry for whoever bought that Canyon.  <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0" align="middle" /></td></tr></table><br><br>I feel sorry for anyone who buys a Canyon.. but, hey, that's just me. <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0" alt="T&#111;ngue" title="T&#111;ngue" /><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 5:18pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Patriot Dave</strong></em><br /><br />&#091;QUOTE=David&#093;  &#091;QUOTE=Patriot Dave&#093;<br /><br />Thanks for the reply.<br />Well at least i know what to expect. I will be looking at possible replacements and choose something by the end of summer. <br />The Ranger has 145,000 on it so It will be time anyway.</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Really, you are in a great position and your plan is also great.  You'll get enough "road time" to determine, first hand, what 207 ponies will do for you.  You'll have a good idea of what you need at the end of the season.  I made it thru one season with the GMC Canyon and bought a 5.3L Silverado, that November. <br /><br />I feel sorry for whoever bought that Canyon.  <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 5:10pm<br /><br />There is an old drag racer saying:<br /><br />"Torque gets you off the line(launches).  Horsepower wins the race."<br /><br />Just saying...you know....]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5088" rel="nofollow">Retroactive</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 2:51pm<br /><br />There is an old saying: "Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins races."<div><br></div><div>If someone watches car ads closely, when a new generation comes out they usually proclaim "Totally redesigned, now with an additional 10 horsepower!". &nbsp;It is a marketing gimmick, those Horsepower gains have negligible increases in torque.</div><div><br></div><div>Usually only truck ads mention Torque specifically. &nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3022" rel="nofollow">Mountainrev</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 2:43pm<br /><br />I'm not disagreeing with anyone about hp vs torque.&nbsp; Both are important factors.&nbsp; But based on factory tow ratings and my own personal experience, it's the lb/ft torque number that's more important when it comes to towing. My current tow vehicle, a Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 3.0 liter Mercedes-Benz turbo diesel, puts out a rather lackluster 215 horsepower.&nbsp; But it achieves 376 lb/ft torque, giving it a factory-rated 7,400 lbs. tow capacity. <br><br>(Note to self:&nbsp; Update signature pic with current TV) <br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 1:53pm<br /><br />It does not have a boost gauge. However, I got an OBDII scanner and use the Torque app, so I can see what is happening. I appreciate the advice about the oil changes. Ford does indeed call for use of premium while towing. The hp and torque ratings are based on premium use.&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5088" rel="nofollow">Retroactive</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 1:03pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by StephenH</strong></em><br /><br />I think the reason you won't find Challenger SRT's pulling campers is more due to the frame not being able to take the stress.<br><br>I believe I said above that both are important. Horsepower without adequate torque means no towing as one would not be able to get started. Torque without horsepower means one would go at a snail's pace, but be able to haul a lot. Having both means being able to start and also able to get to and maintain highway speeds. It does not take 700 hp or 1,850 lb/ft torque to tow an R-Pod at 60 mpg. As long as one has adequate amounts of both, one can tow an R-Pod quite nicely. My Escape can do that. I would not go with anything less though. The turbocharged 2L engine is adequate. I have not tested it on really hard climbs though. This summer should prove more a challenge as we will be going through some of the more mountainous sections of the northeast. The northwest will have to wait a bit.<br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Does your Turbo have a boost gauge? &nbsp;If it does keep a close eye on it, so you know how often and long it kicks in. If you don't have a boost gauge, most 4-Cyl engines kick in after 2k rpm. &nbsp;If you are spending more time in boost mode than not, and I assume like most Turbos requires premium octane gas, you probably are actually burning more dollar for dollar than a low octane V-6. &nbsp;Either way, change your oil religiously every 3k and use synthetic; I went with the factory 7k and stock oil, but the thing blew out at 13k miles. While I drove very "sporty", I never towed or loaded the thing in any way. It was under warranty, and the dealer sheepishly admitted it was one of the few engines that should call out 3k in the manual because the engine runs too hot.&nbsp;<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">&nbsp;It was the only turbo I ever owned, and for a dozen reasons never will again.</span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">&nbsp;Why am I saying all this? My CX-7 was simply a 2.3L sport tuned Japanese built version of the Escape, they shared many common parts, because Mazda was in partnership with Ford up until the market crash.</span></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 12:42pm<br /><br />I think the reason you won't find Challenger SRT's pulling campers is more due to the frame not being able to take the stress.<br><br>I believe I said above that both are important. Horsepower without adequate torque means no towing as one would not be able to get started. Torque without horsepower means one would go at a snail's pace, but be able to haul a lot. Having both means being able to start and also able to get to and maintain highway speeds. It does not take 700 hp or 1,850 lb/ft torque to tow an R-Pod at 60 mpg. As long as one has adequate amounts of both, one can tow an R-Pod quite nicely. My Escape can do that. I would not go with anything less though. The turbocharged 2L engine is adequate. I have not tested it on really hard climbs though. This summer should prove more a challenge as we will be going through some of the more mountainous sections of the northeast. The northwest will have to wait a bit.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3022" rel="nofollow">Mountainrev</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 11:44am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by StephenH</strong></em><br /><br />However, the same article used this illustration:&nbsp; The Honda, with high horsepower and low torque is a vehicle unsuitable for towing. <br><br><i>"In other words, torque lets you do the work, but horsepower lets you do the work quickly."</i> <br><br><i>"</i>I<i>n the end, all the evidence points to torque as being more important than horsepower when it comes to towing. Why? The power at low-end rpm provided by high levels of torque lets you move huge loads without much effort. As stated before, some diesel trucks produce twice as much torque as they do horsepower at near-idle RPM levels -- meaning that they can start pulling something like a <a href="http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/vehicle-towing/trailer/trailer-towing-regulati&#111;ns.htm" target="_blank">trailer</a> or a <a href="http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/vehicle-towing/boat/boat-towing-safety.htm" target="_blank">boat</a> with ease.									</i><p><i>Horsepower is important because it allows a car to move faster on the highway and at high rpm. However, if you can't get that trailer off the line, all the horsepower in the world won't help you."</i></p><p>The full article would differ. My point was not to say horsepower isn't important. However, it is not enough to have a lot of horsepower if there is insufficient torque available to apply it. One needs both.</p><p>Looking up some quick specs for your Tacoma but not knowing the exact model, it looks like the figures for the supercharged engine horsepower are 296@5400 rpm and torque are 318@3600 rpm. The specs for my Escape with 2L Ecoboost engine are horsepower: 240* @ 5500 rpm, torque: 270 @ 3000 rpm. In both cases, the torque specs are higher than the horsepower as opposed to non-supercharged or non-turbocharged where the horsepower specs are usually higher than torque, and which vehicles have a harder time towing. It is the reason I traded from my old Escape, which had a larger engine, but less horsepower and torque, and would not have been suitable to tow the R-Pod 179.</p></td></tr></table><br><br>To bolster your argument about the importance of torque over and against horsepower in towing, consider that a modern Detroit Diesel engine used in a semi tractor is capable of towing up to 80,000 lbs., yet puts out only 560 horsepower (for comparison, a Dodge Challenger with the Hellcat engine puts out over 700 horsepower).&nbsp; But it achieves an astonishing 1,850 lb/ft torque.&nbsp; That's why you won't find too many Challenger SRT's pulling campers.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 9:18am<br /><br />See the chart on page 18 of Ford's towing guide for the 2006 model year:<br><br><a href="http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/2006RVguideApr08.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/2006RVguideApr08.pdf</a><br><br>If I am reading it correctly, your Ranger has a towing limit of 5580 lbs or 5300 lbs with FX4 Level II. It SHOULD be adequate.<br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5088" rel="nofollow">Retroactive</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 9:11am<br /><br />While we are on the subject: any recommendations on a self powered trailer dolly, to get the pod towed for about 25 feet into a flat paved driveway?<div><br></div><div>There is a slim chance we won't be able to use the pod the way we hoped at the cottage. By backing the pod in with the truck, I am afraid there will not be enough room to easily walk between the cottage and the pod. The other side of the driveway has a nice large grassy area, which is 100% more preferable for the exit side of the pod. My FiL will have no problem letting me store the dolly at the cottage, so portability is not an issue. The 171 is ~3,200 fully loaded, and the driveway is flat, so I think I can get away with whatever the cheapest model dolly is that can pull that weight.</div><div><br></div><div>EDIT: I found the Trailer Valet 5X, which is rated to 5,000Lbs, and has some hand crank mechanism that allows to to propel it slowly. Has anyone used something like this product?</div><div>https://www.trailervalet.com/shop/trailer-valet-trailer-dolly/</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4956" rel="nofollow">Patriot Dave</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 9:07am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Patriot Dave</strong></em><br /><br />We will be picking up our new Rpod soon and for a Tow Vehicle, I currently own a 2006 Ford Ranger 4.0 V6, 4x4 Super Cab with a factory tow package. <br />Trying to locate the specs on Google it looks like my truck is at 207hp @ 5250rpm's, and torque is 238 @ 3000rpm. <br />After reading all of the many posts here it seems I am going to be just adequate?<br />Any and all comments are welcome.<br />Thanks</td></tr></table> <br /><br />When it comes to tow vehicles:<br />There is what is <em>possible</em> and<br />There is what I would <em>recommend</em><br />The two are very different animals.<br /><br />It is possible to tow a Pod with a lawn tractor.  When I bought my Pod, my TV was a 185hp GMC Canyon.  I towed my Pod from central Indiana to the Rocky Mountains and back with it.  It is <em>possible</em> to tow with a vehicle like that.  However, would I <em>recommend</em> it?<br />HELL NO!  <br />I got something more powerful as soon as I possibly could. <br /><br />I'm guessing what you have can be made to work.  I'll go out on a limb and speculate that you will want something with a little more "umph".</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Thanks for the reply.<br />Well at least i know what to expect. I will be looking at possible replacements and choose something by the end of summer. <br />The Ranger has 145,000 on it so It will be time anyway. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4956" rel="nofollow">Patriot Dave</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 9:04am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by CharlieM</strong></em><br /><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Patriot Dave</strong></em><br /><br />................. 2006 Ford Ranger 4.0 V6, 4x4 Super Cab with a factory tow package. <br />Trying to locate the specs on Google it looks like my truck is at 207hp @ 5250rpm's, and torque is 238 @ 3000rpm. <br />After reading all of the many posts here it seems I am going to be just adequate?<br />...................</td></tr></table><font size="3">I would say just adequate on relatively flat low altitude terrain. Don't tow in the highest or overdrive gear. Mountains will be a challenge, but you will just have to be content with slow ascents. As Dave said, it can be done, but you'll want something better when the budget allows. </font></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Thanks for the reply. The Ranger has 145,000 miles on it and is in great shape (I take good care of my vehicles) however with that said, I will start thinking and looking at possible replacement vehicles. Hope to get through this summer with the current setup. By the end of summer I should have a good idea as to what I will need.<br />Have a Great Day. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1573" rel="nofollow">CharlieM</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 7:36am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Patriot Dave</strong></em><br /><br />................. 2006 Ford Ranger 4.0 V6, 4x4 Super Cab with a factory tow package. <br>Trying to locate the specs on Google it looks like my truck is at 207hp @ 5250rpm's, and torque is 238 @ 3000rpm. <br>After reading all of the many posts here it seems I am going to be just adequate?...................<br></td></tr></table><br><br><font size="3">I would say just adequate on relatively flat low altitude terrain. Don't tow in the highest or overdrive gear. Mountains will be a challenge, but you will just have to be content with slow ascents. As Dave said, it can be done, but you'll want something better when the budget allows. <br></font><br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 7:18am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Patriot Dave</strong></em><br /><br />We will be picking up our new Rpod soon and for a Tow Vehicle, I currently own a 2006 Ford Ranger 4.0 V6, 4x4 Super Cab with a factory tow package. <br />Trying to locate the specs on Google it looks like my truck is at 207hp @ 5250rpm's, and torque is 238 @ 3000rpm. <br />After reading all of the many posts here it seems I am going to be just adequate?<br />Any and all comments are welcome.<br />Thanks</td></tr></table> <br /><br />When it comes to tow vehicles:<br />There is what is <em>possible</em> and<br />There is what I would <em>recommend</em><br />The two are very different animals.<br /><br />It is possible to tow a Pod with a lawn tractor.  When I bought my Pod, my TV was a 185hp GMC Canyon.  I towed my Pod from central Indiana to the Rocky Mountains and back with it.  It is <em>possible</em> to tow with a vehicle like that.  However, would I <em>recommend</em> it?<br />HELL NO!  <br />I got something more powerful as soon as I possibly could. <br /><br />I'm guessing what you have can be made to work.  I'll go out on a limb and speculate that you will want something with a little more "umph".]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4956" rel="nofollow">Patriot Dave</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7590<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Mar 2016 at 5:34am<br /><br />We will be picking up our new Rpod soon and for a Tow Vehicle, I currently own a 2006 Ford Ranger 4.0 V6, 4x4 Super Cab with a factory tow package. <br />Trying to locate the specs on Google it looks like my truck is at 207hp @ 5250rpm's, and torque is 238 @ 3000rpm. <br />After reading all of the many posts here it seems I am going to be just adequate?<br />Any and all comments are welcome.<br />Thanks]]>
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