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   <title>Potential Electrical Safety Issue - PLEASE READ : Thank you for this discussion....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1464" rel="nofollow">coopercdrkey</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 Jun 2016 at 12:24pm<br /><br />Thank you for this discussion. &nbsp;I was headed out to the barn this afternoon to do a little cosmetic work on our 177. &nbsp;I will now unbutton the under-sink panels and check this out instead.]]>
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   <title>Potential Electrical Safety Issue - PLEASE READ :  Thanks very much for this post...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5572" rel="nofollow">ctmidnight</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jun 2016 at 11:40am<br /><br />Thanks very much for this post and your resolution to this safety concern.<br>I experienced an arc flash event with my Molex connectors as well, and I've filed a complaint with NTHSA to report it.<br>I researched the Molex connectors used in the construction of my trailer, and the manufacturer technical specs for this connector explicitly state it is not water resistant and is designed for VERTICAL installation.<br>FR installs the connector in a location known to be at risk of water intrusion and in a horizontal orientation directly under plumbing... No bueno.<br><br><img src="" border="0" /><br>]]>
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   <title>Potential Electrical Safety Issue - PLEASE READ : Well if you ever had to remove...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4327" rel="nofollow">dropkick</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Aug 2015 at 11:52pm<br /><br />Well if you ever had to remove the slide-out it'd be easy!&nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><br><br>Seeing as that should theoretically "never" happen (knock knock!), perhaps I'll just delete the connections all together and wire it straight back to the panel.&nbsp; If the factory cables are left, the connection should at least be in a NMEA weathertight box, or as you did well out of the way.&nbsp; I can't imagine FR not spending the 3 minutes it would take to do it right rather than have your trailer burn down or someone get shocked.&nbsp; Scary.<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Potential Electrical Safety Issue - PLEASE READ :   No, that outlet is my handy...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3745" rel="nofollow">BillR</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Aug 2015 at 8:36pm<br /><br />No, that outlet is my handy work. Definate overkill; to do it again I would just move the connections to the sidewall and make sure they were waterproof. A simple Marretted splice would do fine and be a heck of a lot cheaper. I don't know what I was thinking...]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4327" rel="nofollow">dropkick</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Aug 2015 at 2:52am<br /><br />Wow, thanks for pointing these out.&nbsp; I went out and found them in our 177 mounted on the vertical center divider between sink and stove/drawer stack.&nbsp; I had never noticed them tucked up there before.&nbsp; They’re off the floor but still susceptible to water.&nbsp; I see yet another re-wire in the future.&nbsp; Add to the growing list of wiring screw-ups that I’ve had to fix in this thing!<br><br>Is that outlet factory wiring, too?<br><br><br>]]>
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   <title>Potential Electrical Safety Issue - PLEASE READ : Wow. Seems like a really bad place...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1100" rel="nofollow">Leo B</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Jul 2015 at 1:49pm<br /><br />Wow. Seems like a really bad place to put it ]]>
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   <title>Potential Electrical Safety Issue - PLEASE READ :   Originally posted by Leo BDid...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=936" rel="nofollow">furpod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Jul 2015 at 12:33pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Leo B</strong></em><br /><br />Did the previous owner move the electric or did it come that way?</td></tr></table><br><br>Came that way.. sometimes the factory puts them there, sometimes on the wall. It's where the pod wiring and slide wiring come together after the completed slide is inserted into the completed pod.<br>]]>
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   <title>Potential Electrical Safety Issue - PLEASE READ : I own a 2012  177pod  when I installed...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=993" rel="nofollow">ron_whitt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Jul 2015 at 10:32am<br /><br />I own a 2012  177pod  when I installed the outside shower and removed the cheapo panels under the sink to make more storage, I noticed the connectors.  I covered them with a plastic cover and made small notches for the wires at each end.  So far seems to work.. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1100" rel="nofollow">Leo B</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Jul 2015 at 10:29am<br /><br />Did the previous owner move the electric or did it come that way?]]>
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   <title>Potential Electrical Safety Issue - PLEASE READ : This has happened to a few owners....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=598" rel="nofollow">kymooses</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Jul 2015 at 9:53am<br /><br />This has happened to a few owners. &nbsp;The placement of those is in a very unfortunate place! &nbsp;But they always seem to be lined up almost directly beneath that pipe.]]>
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   <title>Potential Electrical Safety Issue - PLEASE READ : Glad you caught that! Sounds like...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Jul 2015 at 10:47pm<br /><br />Glad you caught that! &nbsp;Sounds like you were living up to your signature...<div><br></div><div>The two things I recommend for all campers (see the link in my signature, the first item on the page that comes up) are a non-contact voltage tester and a plug-in outlet tester, based on the extensive work of Mike Sokol, discussed on that page. &nbsp;Usually I just recommend plugging in the tester to one outlet to be sure the camper is plugged into a properly-wired outlet, but checking all of the outlets upon delivery would be a good idea, too.</div><div><br></div><div>Loose sewer plumbing is unfortunately a normal problem with the pods. &nbsp;All of the connections are hand-tight and they always loosen up. &nbsp;I traced out all of the sewer lines in mine several times and always found something loose.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2015 22:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Potential Electrical Safety Issue - PLEASE READ :     I would like to alert...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3745" rel="nofollow">BillR</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 6573<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Jul 2015 at 9:03pm<br /><br /><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Iwould like to alert subscribers to something that happened to us recently thatI think has serious implications for safety. Please read this post,particularly if you have an R-Pod with a slide-out. We have a 2013 RP-177 whichwe bought used last year (and we love it, BTW!). We usually boondock, but on arecent trip we rented an electrical site because I had not yet had a chance tocheck out the entire electrical system. We got set up and hooked up at RideauRiver Provincial Park in Ontario, Canada (nice park!).<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>On thesecond day, I noticed that the fridge was indicating “no power” (flashing redlight). I had to re-set the GFCI outlet, and all seemed fine (the GFCI outletprotects ALL the standard 115V outlets). But it tripped again in about an hour.I put the fridge on propane and figured I’d have to check it out when I gothome. But I WAS able to re-set the GFCI. <o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Later,Gwen and I were sitting outside at the picnic table when I heard a strangenoise from inside the trailer. It’s hard to describe: kind of a cross between a“pop” and a “thump”. About a minute later, we heard it again. This time, I wentto investigate. I just stepped into the trailer when I heard it again, onlythis time it was accompanied by a brilliant flash from under the kitchen sink.Arc-flash!! I immediately ran outside and unplugged from the utility post. <o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>When Igot back in the trailer, I could smell that burnt, electrical kind of smell andthere was a slight bit of blue smoke coming from the under-sink cabinet. Thatcabinet is kind of cheaply made, so removing a couple of screws gave me accessto the entire area. I was surprised to see that, directly under the p-trap forthe sink were two electrical connectors (see photo), clearly 115V. They wereblackened and broken. <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley3.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Shocked" title="Shocked" /><o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>I alsonoticed that the plastic drain fittings were dripping, and of course they weredripping right onto the connectors! Since the plumbing is all “hand-tightened”fittings, I assumed they had loosened off a bit with hot-cold and travelvibration. It was easy to re-tighten by hand and stop the mild drippage thathad been taking place. It must have been recent, because while the area waswet, it certainly wasn’t soaked and I couldn’t see any water damage other thanthe burnt connectors. <o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Wespent the rest of the trip on 12V and propane, which was fine. Once home, I wasable to affect repairs (see photo – overkill, I know. To do it again, I wouldjust make Marrette connections and tie them out of the way). One connection isfor the kitchen outlet (located in the slide-out wall) and the other is for themicrowave plug-in located in the overhead cabinet. But I will add that whenchecking the entire electrical system, I noticed that the plug-in for themicrowave was incorrectly wired (hot and neutral reversed). This was preventingthe GFCI from resetting, so I knew something was wrong somewhere. I eventually correctedthis at my new plug-in arrangement, since it was really hard to access theoutlet. Note that, in my solution shown, those two outlets are electrically separate(I broke off the tab that connects the “black” and “white” screws on the outlet’sbackside). <o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style='font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>All isnow back to normal and everything is working as it should, thankfully. I can’tbelieve that the installer would locate those connectors in such closeproximity to plumbing! In retrospect, that GFCI was trying to tell mesomething. If yours trips, don’t ignore it! If you have a unit with a kitchenslide-out, I strongly suggest you take a look under the sink and think aboutwaterproofing those connectors and tightening the plumbing. If we hadn’t beenon site to follow up on this strange noise, we might have lost our trailer. Orworse! Please be careful!!&nbsp; <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley18.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Ouch" title="Ouch" /></p><div></div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" ="Ms&#111;normal"><o:p><img src="uploads/3745/C&#111;nnectors.jpg" border="0" /></o:p></span></p><div></div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><div><img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/uploads/3745/Soluti&#111;n.jpg" border="0" /></div></font>]]>
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