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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy : I&amp;#039;ve shared my frustration...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2645" rel="nofollow">NormanHill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Oct 2014 at 11:37pm<br /><br />I've shared my frustration with FR quality here before, with others defending them and saying the dealer should fix it. I suggest calling FR on the AC box issue and see what they say. It would be an expensive thing to fix. FR has the quality problem and the dealers just don't push back on them for owners.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>It's ridiculous to call poor assembly a warranty issue. &nbsp;Oh, and don't blame the engineers, I am one :)</div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy :   Originally posted by Podster   By...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1573" rel="nofollow">CharlieM</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Oct 2014 at 10:50am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Podster</strong></em><br /><br />By no means do I want to depict this post as FR bashing. Over the last two weeks I have crawled over every square inch of my 178 and generally I am very happy with the quality. But I did find one thing that kinda made me go, Hmmm. Am I splitting hairs here? I kinda thought the fit and finish of the A/C Shroud mashed up against the junction box plate was a little cheesy. It creates a gap. It just doesn't seem right or look good, I wouldn't have done it this way. I'm sure it won't affect the performance, however, FR still gets a fit and finish demarit in my book. What do you think? Splitting hairs here...get a life...etc..?<div><br></div><div><img src="uploads/3238/1-AC_Shrout_GAP.jpg" height="319" width="480" border="0" /><br><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;</div></div></td></tr></table><br><br><font size="3">I count this as four serial screw-ups: The first guy cut the hole in the wrong place, the scond guy covered it up with an outlet box plate, the third guy installed the AC shroud without raising the goof flag, and the fourth final QA guy closed his eyes. Does that last guy even exist?? Inexcusable. </font><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy :   Something to consider, tanks...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Oct 2014 at 9:01am<br /><br />Something to consider, tanks for the info.]]>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy : In my little sis&amp;#039;s class...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2297" rel="nofollow">fwunder</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 6:27pm<br /><br />In my little sis's class C, they made a simple pvc ladder for the bunk above the cab. Easy and light.<div><br></div><div>fred</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy : Not to go off topic, marwayne&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 4:42pm<br /><br />Not to go off topic, marwayne's pic reminded me - I need to figure out a step or ladder for my Salem. &nbsp;Since it has a triple-bunk the top bunk is really high, too high even with a 2-step stool on the floor. &nbsp;<span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;">Same configuration&nbsp;as show above so&nbsp;</span>I've considered putting a ladder or steps on the bathroom wall.]]>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy : I fixed it in my pod, but it still...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1045" rel="nofollow">marwayne</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 4:05pm<br /><br />I fixed it in my pod, but it still bothers me when I see it in another pod.<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/uploads/1045/IMG_0676.JPG" border="0" />]]>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy :   Now that&amp;#039;s an interesting...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2297" rel="nofollow">fwunder</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 2:17pm<br /><br />Now that's an interesting backband and jack-miter! Do your best and caulk the rest?&nbsp;<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" alt="C&#111;nfused" title="C&#111;nfused" /><div><br></div><div>fred</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy : Here is my pet peeve, and I have...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1045" rel="nofollow">marwayne</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 2:12pm<br /><br />Here is my pet peeve, and I have seen a lot worse in other pods.<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/uploads/1045/100_0675.JPG" border="0" />  <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/uploads/1045/100_0964.JPG" border="0" />  <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/uploads/1045/100_0962.JPG" border="0" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy : I&amp;#039;m with JStrube: It&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3180" rel="nofollow">Luv2Q</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 11:44am<br /><br />I'm with JStrube: &nbsp;It's the kind of sloppiness that can drive most of us nuts!<div><br></div><div>You're probably now in a quandary: &nbsp;Do you take the time, trouble &amp; hassle to take it to an FR dealer? &nbsp;Or do you trim the cover plate to get rid of the gap? &nbsp;Neither is particularly satisfactory since it could/should have been right in the first place.</div><div><br></div><div>If it were me: &nbsp;I'd take it to the dealer &amp; get it done right. &nbsp;After all, it's brand spanking new! If I were to trim the plate then, every time I looked up to change a vent, I'd get ticked off. &nbsp;Then I'd have to go have a Jack Daniels to get calmed down. &nbsp;Then I'd need an Alka Seltzer to get my stomach settled down. &nbsp;And then ...&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>But .. YMMV. &nbsp;Good luck whichever way you go. &nbsp;And "get a life"? &nbsp;Hell no .. Like I said, the dang thing is brand new! &nbsp;(See? &nbsp;I'm getting worked up, and it's <u>your</u> trailer! &nbsp;I think I need anger management counseling.)</div>]]>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy : That is the kind of thing that...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3111" rel="nofollow">JStrube</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 10:58am<br /><br />That is the kind of thing that drives me crazy. &nbsp;Could you imagine Honda doing that? &nbsp;Would you accept it from Honda?]]>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy :       Interesting- my 179...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2707" rel="nofollow">Budward</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 9:54am<br /><br />Interesting- my 179 has no such junction box cover plate, all connections are under the A/C cover- <br>I've owned many campers and never have I seen such a situation- &nbsp; connections have always been made under the A/C cover.<br><br>&nbsp;I'm thinking someone at the factory screwed up and that is their "cover up". &nbsp; <br><br>Be interesting to pull that plate off and see if there are even any connections in there.....<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy :    Originally posted by OutboundIf...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3238" rel="nofollow">Podster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 9:28am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Outbound</strong></em><br /><br />&nbsp;<span style="line-height: 1.4;">If you do take it back to your dealer to be fixed, ask them how they'll do it first. &nbsp;If its anything less than replacing that ceiling tile (or whatever its called) and relocating the box, I'd suggest pushing it all the way up to Forest River if necessary for an appropriate fix.</span><br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>The reality of what you are suggesting to have it fixed properly is helping me get over it, quickly.&nbsp;<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>If it starts to gnaw at me I'll probably just trim the plate and protect whats exposed with something flat under the shroud in that one small corner. <img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" />&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy :   Originally posted by Blue&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3238" rel="nofollow">Podster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 9:15am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Blue's Pod</strong></em><br /><br />...We don't have a visible A/C junction box in the ceiling on the 2015 r-171.<br><br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>I'm guessing it's under the shroud where it belongs.&nbsp;<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=418" rel="nofollow">Outbound</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 9:05am<br /><br />I'd say that you've found the same thing as the rest of us. &nbsp;Overall, quality is pretty good, but there are a few oddities here and there. &nbsp;<span style="line-height: 1.4;">I'd also say that this approach is similar across the industry for trailers in this price range.</span><div><br></div><div>For the most part, I think that the manufacturers' philosophy is to do a decent job and then leave any fit-n-finish issues for the dealerships to address through warranty. &nbsp;And, with issues like the sloppy work you've pointed out, maybe 3 out of 10 people would find it and would expend the effort to get it fixed. &nbsp;That's 7 out of 10 who wouldn't bother - and that's a good chunk of change left in Forest River's pocket.</div><div><br></div><div>But, that's just me being pragmatic.</div><div><br></div><div>If you do take it back to your dealer to be fixed, ask them how they'll do it first. &nbsp;If its anything less than replacing that ceiling tile (or whatever its called) and relocating the box, I'd suggest pushing it all the way up to Forest River if necessary for an appropriate fix.</div>]]>
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   <title>Cheezy or Not Cheezy : That looks like lack of coordination...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3166" rel="nofollow">Blue's Pod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 9:04am<br /><br />That looks like&nbsp; lack of coordination or communication between design or engineering and the actual people that do installing. Sometimes things look good on paper or now days on screen.&nbsp; But in the field it is different.&nbsp; We don't have a visible A/C junction box in the ceiling on the 2015 r-171.<br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3238" rel="nofollow">Podster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5427<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 Oct 2014 at 7:25am<br /><br />By no means do I want to depict this post as FR bashing. Over the last two weeks I have crawled over every square inch of my 178 and generally I am very happy with the quality. But I did find one thing that kinda made me go, Hmmm. Am I splitting hairs here? I kinda thought the fit and finish of the A/C Shroud mashed up against the junction box plate was a little cheesy. It creates a gap. It just doesn't seem right or look good, I wouldn't have done it this way. I'm sure it won't affect the performance, however, FR still gets a fit and finish demarit in my book. What do you think? Splitting hairs here...get a life...etc..?<div><br></div><div><img src="uploads/3238/1-AC_Shrout_GAP.jpg" height="319" width="480" border="0" /><br><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;</div></div>]]>
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