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R-pod Owners Forum : PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? https://www.rpod-owners.com/ This is an XML content feed of; R-pod Owners Forum : Camping Adventures : PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? Copyright (c) 2006-2009 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 05 Sep 2026 16:43:00 +0000 Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:04:03 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.64 360 https://www.rpod-owners.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5424 R-pod Owners Forum https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.rpod-owners.com/ PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : The bracket may have bent going... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52889#52889 Author: David and Danette
Subject: 5424
Posted: 17 Oct 2014 at 11:04am

The bracket may have bent going forward or backward I am not sure It is my guess that it was because of being to tight. It could of bent because it retracted as much as it could and then the bracket bent, it's been about 4 years so I do not remember what happened that well. Budward I think you are probably correct it ran out of travel when backing to sharp of a angle.]]> Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:04:03 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52889#52889 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Just my opinion but I don't... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52883#52883 Author: Budward
Subject: 5424
Posted: 17 Oct 2014 at 9:05am

Just my opinion but I don't see how the forces generated by having the friction control too tight can be any different whether the vehicle is going forward or reverse. So IF the mount can be bent just by resistance to telescoping in or out- seems to me it could be bent in either direction of travel.

I am very anxiously watching the new electronic sway controls that automatically apply the brake on ONE side only to correct sway when it is detected by sensors.
Tuson came out with one that now appears to be marketed by Dexter. The video of it originally stated $250 but it has now risen to over $500 IIRC and Dexter will only allow an authorized installer to install it.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/bf8ImtKqshw?rel=0

]]> Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:05:43 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52883#52883 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : The same kind of bracket bent... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52876#52876 Author: David and Danette
Subject: 5424
Posted: 16 Oct 2014 at 7:58pm

The same kind of bracket bent on us too, I thought it was because I had it adjusted to tight. I removed it and bent it back in shape and was careful not to have it adjusted to tight there after and do not remember having any more problems with it. We later bought a Equalizer WDH when we bought a 2010 Jeep Liberty.]]> Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:58:30 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52876#52876 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Originally posted by Budward... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52872#52872 Author: Craneman
Subject: 5424
Posted: 16 Oct 2014 at 6:08pm

Originally posted by Budward

He said in his other thread with those pics he doesn't know how it happened....I'm betting turned too sharp and ran out of travel on the sway bar.
Looking around on the net that seems to be the consensus of what causes damage, not binding in the assembly itself.
On mine I can see the hitch in the rearview camera, so that should never happen to me, as long as I remember to look when backing and turning sharp. LOL

It is impossible in most vehicles to turn sharp enough going forward to ever cause it.

I assume that's why they recommend not backing with them hooked up, my truck isn't equipped with a camera, but towing trailers boat,rv,and even occasionally a 40 ft commerical trailer just don't remember jack knifing that shart, but might have duh!!!!!

Moe

]]> Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:08:21 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52872#52872 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : He said in his other thread with... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52869#52869 Author: Budward
Subject: 5424
Posted: 16 Oct 2014 at 5:11pm

He said in his other thread with those pics he doesn't know how it happened....I'm betting turned too sharp and ran out of travel on the sway bar.
Looking around on the net that seems to be the consensus of what causes damage, not binding in the assembly itself.
On mine I can see the hitch in the rearview camera, so that should never happen to me, as long as I remember to look when backing and turning sharp. LOL

It is impossible in most vehicles to turn sharp enough going forward to ever cause it.
]]> Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:11:13 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52869#52869 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : And there are some pics! https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52861#52861 Author: techntrek
Subject: 5424
Posted: 16 Oct 2014 at 12:25pm

And there are some pics! Smile

]]> Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:25:27 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52861#52861 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : This is what happened to mine,... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52829#52829 Author: Craneman
Subject: 5424
Posted: 15 Oct 2014 at 6:43pm

This is what happened to mine, bent when ??????????

]]> Wed, 15 Oct 2014 18:43:10 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52829#52829 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : I've seen pictures of them... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52828#52828 Author: techntrek
Subject: 5424
Posted: 15 Oct 2014 at 6:14pm

I've seen pictures of them bent from backing up. Somehow they can bind up when the TV is applying the leverage vs. the trailer.]]> Wed, 15 Oct 2014 18:14:02 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52828#52828 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : I don't understand why they... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52827#52827 Author: Budward
Subject: 5424
Posted: 15 Oct 2014 at 5:58pm

I don't understand why they say to disconnect the friction type- the one I used for 30 days on my trip I never took off to back up, no issues.]]> Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:58:37 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52827#52827 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Not necessary with the E2... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52823#52823 Author: techntrek
Subject: 5424
Posted: 15 Oct 2014 at 2:09pm

Not necessary with the E2 or Equalizer. I believe it is only necessary when using a friction bar like this: http://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Distribution/Pro-Series/83660.html]]> Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:09:43 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52823#52823 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : This "disconnect for backing"... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52820#52820 Author: Luv2Q
Subject: 5424
Posted: 15 Oct 2014 at 1:32pm

This "disconnect for backing" thing still has me a little confused. The techs at Couch's (where I bought the trailer & the E2 hitch) cautioned me to be sure to remove the bars when backing. OTOH, the tech support at Fastway said that isn't necessary.

I've opted to listen to Fastway. Have done some serious angles when backing. One bar slides forward, the other moves back (with a couple of inches of travel still remaining). Is a bar dropping off the L-bracket the worry when backing sharply? I'm not sure what else to be looking for. Cry

Thanks in advance for replies ..

]]> Wed, 15 Oct 2014 13:32:26 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52820#52820 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Yes, no need to disconnect... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52816#52816 Author: techntrek
Subject: 5424
Posted: 15 Oct 2014 at 9:27am

Yes, no need to disconnect for backing, and I also saw nothing in the instructions about needing to disconnect in slippery conditions. Friction sway control systems require you to disengage it if you are on snow/ice. Since using a WDH is required with my new camper (due to tongue weight), that would mean I couldn't tow at all. I just spent some time searching around and I still can't find a requirement to disengage the dual-cam in bad conditions. If anyone finds otherwise let me know.]]> Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:27:20 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52816#52816 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Another thing nice about the dual... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52808#52808 Author: fwunder
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 7:59pm

Another thing nice about the dual cam system Tech brought up is you don't disconnect when tight backing. That's a pain sometimes with my friction sway.

fred

]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:59:34 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52808#52808 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : I chose the Equal-I-zer because... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52807#52807 Author: marwayne
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 7:51pm

I chose the Equal-I-zer because of it's dual prepuce, I didn't want a sway bar because you have to disconnect when backing up. You will find with or without, the difference is like night and day. ]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:51:17 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52807#52807 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : obviously my interest is peaked.... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52804#52804 Author: hogone
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 6:31pm

obviously my interest is peaked. im starting to read about all this. one thing im just a little confused about (maybe alot!!) is do i need a wd hitch with sway, or just sway control, or both given my tv? or if you get sway, do you automatically get a wd hitch? i read up some on sway control today, and several things mentioned about disconnecting in extreme conditions, or did i misunderstand? it seems like the more i read, the more confusing it becomes. by the way, it was extremely obvioous this week that leds greatly reduced battery consumption. still had three lights on the gauge at pullout time. ran lights, heater, and pump. hogone]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:31:51 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52804#52804 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : After a bit more research and... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52801#52801 Author: fwunder
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 6:13pm

After a bit more research and reading this is definitely on the list for spring mods! Thanks Tech. I'll just put the friction plate bolts back in the frame.

https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Distribution/Reese/RP26002.html

Thanks.

fred

]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:13:58 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52801#52801 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Sorry, missed that in your... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52794#52794 Author: techntrek
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 4:33pm

Sorry, missed that in your prior post. Wacko

]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:33:47 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52794#52794 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Originally posted by techntrek The... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52791#52791 Author: fwunder
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 2:29pm

Originally posted by techntrek

The good news is they use the same spring bars. The cams fit inside that "hook" on the end, where your chain is currently attached.

Yeah. Confirmed that with Reese, Doug. I'm a little concerned about hole alignment, drilling additional holes in trailer frame where friction sway plate is now. I really do like the dual cam system, though.

fred

]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:29:05 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52791#52791 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : The good news is they use... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52790#52790 Author: techntrek
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 2:25pm

The good news is they use the same spring bars. The cams fit inside that "hook" on the end, where your chain is currently attached.]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:25:08 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52790#52790 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Originally posted by techntrekI... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52786#52786 Author: fwunder
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 2:07pm

Originally posted by techntrek

I would now recommend the Reese dual-cam WDH.

Interesting. My current Reese config: Note friction sway.

Close up of friction sway attachment:

A few emails with Reese confirmed that the Dual Cam Sway would work fine with my wdh head and spring bars. I wonder, however, if it would be worth the effort and a few more holes in the frame?

During our recent cross country trip we didn't have any problems, but I never overlook a little extra safety factor.

fred

]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:07:52 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52786#52786 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : i guess i want to say that... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52785#52785 Author: hogone
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 1:19pm

i guess i want to say that i am not at all against towards wd or sway set-ups. just haven't felt the need, but as tech stated, at some point you may. after i dumped the loads, i encountered the same weather conditions (strong winds, wet roads) and lots of tractors passing me. POD performed flawlessly. i guess i will assume it was a combo of alot of thinks, but the full tanks (or mostly full) was a major player. ]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:19:14 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52785#52785 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : I am using the original Equal-i-zer... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52779#52779 Author: marwayne
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 11:16am

I am using the original Equal-i-zer with build in sway control, no sway bar,]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:16:07 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52779#52779 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Originally posted by marwayneHe... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52774#52774 Author: techntrek
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 9:51am

Originally posted by marwayne

He had no WDH no sway bar nothing and I think those are the same drivers that say we don't need all that stuff we don't even feel the trailer behind us.

Which is why I recommend sway control for everyone, especially when they don't think they need it. It is like insurance. You hope you never need it but it is likely you will, some day. If you don't have it before that day, it is too late.

I would now recommend the Reese dual-cam WDH. The E2 and Equalizer dampen sway but don't prevent it, whereas the dual-cam design actually prevents it from starting.

]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:51:33 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52774#52774 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Originally posted by hogone as... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52769#52769 Author: Blue's Pod
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 8:58am

Originally posted by hogone

as mentioned above, no wd or sway hook-ups.

kickstart, you mentioned the bc. was just reading about that the other day by tech. the prob here was there was zero warning, pod didnt start swaying, it just went like that, nothing gradual not sure really would call this sway, its actually was like the pod almost went airborn but im sure it didnt as this would be impossible. the first semi was just normal turbulence, then the second and POW! honestly, if i would of had a small tv, i think well who knows. this wasn't something warnable (except knowing semis can be nasty). its really hard to explain!! was it the full tanks as podster mentioned? hogone

It would not hurt to double check your mounting brackets on your tanks that were full. If it did slosh that hard. Better safe than sorry.
]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:58:42 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52769#52769 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Marwayne, what type of sway control... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52768#52768 Author: Podster
Subject: 5424
Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 8:47am

Marwayne, what type of sway control are you using? Two friction bars?]]> Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:47:12 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52768#52768 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : We just drove the Gorge on our... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52759#52759 Author: marwayne
Subject: 5424
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 11:24pm

We just drove the Gorge on our way back to Canada from the PNW roundup, yes it was pretty windy but it was a lot worse once we crossed the Columbia river the last time and went up in the hills (windmill country)the wind was really bad, headwinds, crosswinds, swirling and heavy duty wind gusts. there was a RV (small tandem trailer) pulled by a pickup in front of us, man he was all over the road I had to pass him because I didn't want to stay behind him, when I got the chance I past him. I was doing about 65mph, after I passed him he tried to stay with me but he was swaying even more. He finally gave up and slowed down thank god. My point? He had no WDH no sway bar nothing and I think those are the same drivers that say we don't need all that stuff we don't even feel the trailer behind us.
PS; I had no trouble no sway nothing.]]> Mon, 13 Oct 2014 23:24:12 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52759#52759 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Oh OK, that's understandable...you... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52758#52758 Author: Podster
Subject: 5424
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 11:06pm

Oh OK, that's understandable...you guys be careful out there!]]> Mon, 13 Oct 2014 23:06:30 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52758#52758 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Podster, I didn't get any... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52757#52757 Author: Kickstart
Subject: 5424
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 10:50pm

Podster, I didn't get any sway this time in the gorge, just buffeting. My knuckles and pits are probably just from my past experience of about buying the farm in this area. And hogone, when I wrecked the 20' Layton, I came over a rise into the gorge and was hit so hard by a side gust that the trailer also felt like it skipped to the side. So, I know how you felt. Incidently, I was running with a nearly full water tank which was located behind the axles (dual)--which I almost never did. This lightened up my tongue weight, sloshed around and added to the sway. I think I'd have been OK but for that ]]> Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:50:36 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52757#52757 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : hogone, I think it was a combination... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52756#52756 Author: Podster
Subject: 5424
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 10:27pm

hogone, I think it was a combination of everything, high winds, slick roads, bow waves hitting, no sway control, topped off by, not full tanks, but tanks almost full with its contests shifting and sloshing back and forth. It was all just the perfect storm. On a clear dry day with no wind, you probably would have evaded incident. And maybe with empty tanks and sway control you could have overcome the high winds, bow waves, and slick road. But combining all of those together, I think it's the perfect storm.

I think the title of your post nails it! PERFECT "SWAY" SCENARIO?...Yes!

]]> Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:27:58 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52756#52756 PERFECT "SWAY" SCENERIO? : Originally posted by... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=52755#52755 Author: Podster
Subject: 5424
Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 10:19pm

Originally posted by Kickstart

I am still using a WDH. I was using a WDH and sway when I had the wreck. Some conditions are such that no sway WDH will ensure your safety, but I won't tow with a short wheelbase or marginal tow rig. My wrecked F150 was a short bed--never again for me while towing a TT.

OK, well I figured you were, but wanted to make sure because when you said the white knuckle factor is still alive and well up through the CG, I thought about this new product that I read about today. It's a system that automatically detects sway and instantly calculates a solution engaging the left or right trailer break with no driver intervention. Check it out... http://www.direclink.com/swaycontrol.html

It works along the same line as technology used in cars to detect yaw and control it.

Dude, seriously...it sounds like you may be the perfect test proving ground candidate going down through the CG and all. Heck, I would love it if the company would send you one for testing. If they believe in their product and hear your back story and your current setup with white knuckles and all, and they believe in there product, they may just do it.

If anyone else has any direct knowledge of this product, I sure would like to hear it.

Good luck and be careful out there!

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