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R-pod Owners Forum : 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? https://www.rpod-owners.com/ This is an XML content feed of; R-pod Owners Forum : Reviews and General Information : 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? Copyright (c) 2006-2009 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:53:06 +0000 Fri, 15 Aug 2014 21:19:34 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.64 360 https://www.rpod-owners.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5080 R-pod Owners Forum https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.rpod-owners.com/ 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : We will be using the new Pilot... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=50150#50150 Author: psikes
Subject: 5080
Posted: 15 Aug 2014 at 9:19pm

We will be using the new Pilot and like you, it will be used for mostly short haul trips. We got the E2 hitch and Prodigy brake controller installed. We do pack lightly nowadays and do not anticipate any problems. We pulled our last travel trailer, a 23 footer, close to 40,000 miles with no problems with the trailer. The F250 on the other hand was a serious pain. ]]> Fri, 15 Aug 2014 21:19:34 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=50150#50150 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : We are pulling our 178 with a... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=50122#50122 Author: Escape Pod
Subject: 5080
Posted: 15 Aug 2014 at 8:01am

We are pulling our 178 with a 2004 Pilot. It pulls and stops fine. We use a Curt WDH and brake controller. No sway bar attached. The gas mileage sucks and we haven't had to cross any 10,000 foot passes. Other than that, no problems so far. If something changes, we'll let you know. We tend to be weekend campers and use it as a camper and not so much as a travel trailer ( ie no long distances). So that my be a factor for you. Good luck with whatever you use. ]]> Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:01:08 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=50122#50122 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : I'll jump in here with the... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=50034#50034 Author: k4fcp
Subject: 5080
Posted: 12 Aug 2014 at 8:17pm

I'll jump in here with the others and just say there is no way I would tow with the Pilot for many reason, but my 178 weighs 3,000 lbs when it's travelling (weighed it) so you are towing essentially a 3,000 lb trailer with a 4,000 lb vehicle. Yes it will stop, but what will it do in a panic swerve, stop etc.
I'm ignoring hills, mountains, etc. The 250lbs of torque seems weak to me and I would think you're tranny and engine will get a real workout. I do have 40 years of trailer experience and a very recent experience made me glad I was towing with an F 150, v-8, weight distribution, and sway bar, and the F 150 also has a built in sway control. I would most likely have been upside down with both vehicles had I not had this setup. I should even post the situation as it could happen very easily/
Anyway, just my .02 worth.
]]> Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:17:13 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=50034#50034 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : Back to the Honda world. We just... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49891#49891 Author: psikes
Subject: 5080
Posted: 09 Aug 2014 at 12:34pm

Back to the Honda world. We just pulled our new 178 home with the 2014 Pilot Touring and it did a great job. Plenty of power to get up the short but steep hills and very well behaved with the E2 hitch. I think we have a winning combination here.]]> Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:34:44 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49891#49891 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : Originally posted by Hairy... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49868#49868 Author: Budward
Subject: 5080
Posted: 09 Aug 2014 at 6:47am

Originally posted by Hairy Podders

The 6.0 liter diesel is the red-headed stepchild of the Power Stroke series. Some people have great luck with them. Most do not.
The 7.3 was a great engine.....

Ditto. I don't get why Ford didn't just keep improving the 7.3, 4 valve heads etc..
I'll probably keep my 7.3 until either me or the truck dies...

Mine has a couple of mods- added an aftercooler (what a job that was), mild chip, and the exhaust downpipe replacement with a round one instead of the squashed factory one. Also had the E4OD (re)built (before it died) by the well known BTS in Lead Hill AR.

To duplicate it with a new one? $60k- I don't think so Tongue

]]> Sat, 09 Aug 2014 06:47:48 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49868#49868 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : We just purchased our 177 a couple... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49864#49864 Author: r-Griz-pod
Subject: 5080
Posted: 08 Aug 2014 at 11:30pm

We just purchased our 177 a couple of weeks ago and plan on pulling it with our 2013 Pilot. We haven't been able to take it on the road yet but the trip home went better than expected. We had plenty of power even at highway speeds of 70 mph and a couple of small hills. MPG was not good at that speed but we wanted to check how the Pilot did as well as how the pod towed. We look forward to our first trip next weekend to see if the extra weight of the pod loaded makes any difference.
]]> Fri, 08 Aug 2014 23:30:09 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49864#49864 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : If I had known about the 6.0 I... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49438#49438 Author: psikes
Subject: 5080
Posted: 01 Aug 2014 at 1:17pm

If I had known about the 6.0 I never would have bought it at the time.]]> Fri, 01 Aug 2014 13:17:20 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49438#49438 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : The 6.0 liter diesel is the red-headed... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49436#49436 Author: Hairy Podders
Subject: 5080
Posted: 01 Aug 2014 at 12:47pm

The 6.0 liter diesel is the red-headed stepchild of the Power Stroke series. Some people have great luck with them. Most do not.
The 7.3 was a great engine.....I've been working on a couple of wrecked '11 F450's. They run like a scalded dog! But you can NOT work on them easily. ]]> Fri, 01 Aug 2014 12:47:57 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49436#49436 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : Ours is a 2006 with the 6.0 engine.... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49418#49418 Author: psikes
Subject: 5080
Posted: 01 Aug 2014 at 10:46am

Ours is a 2006 with the 6.0 engine. Since we have owned it we have kept it serviced properly, used it but not abused it and overall love the truck. I just do not trust it to pull our 23 footer any longer. We have lost 2 turbos, a turbo boot, three FICM modules, one wiring harness to/from the FICM and cam sensors. Other than that it is a great truck with only 105,000 miles on it.]]> Fri, 01 Aug 2014 10:46:50 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49418#49418 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : 200,000 miles.........just getting... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49404#49404 Author: Leo B
Subject: 5080
Posted: 01 Aug 2014 at 7:37am

200,000 miles.........just getting broken in!!]]> Fri, 01 Aug 2014 07:37:25 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49404#49404 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : psikes- I'm curious what... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49403#49403 Author: Budward
Subject: 5080
Posted: 01 Aug 2014 at 7:31am

psikes- I'm curious what year and engine is your F250?
I have a 96 F350 diesel with over 200,000 miles and it has been one of the best vehicles I've ever owned.
]]> Fri, 01 Aug 2014 07:31:14 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49403#49403 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : at the pilot, wouldn't... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49400#49400 Author: hogone
Subject: 5080
Posted: 01 Aug 2014 at 6:48am

at the pilot, wouldn't phase the f150]]> Fri, 01 Aug 2014 06:48:38 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49400#49400 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : Ready, Aim, Fire! https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49378#49378 Author: CharlieM
Subject: 5080
Posted: 31 Jul 2014 at 10:19pm

Ready, Aim, Fire! ]]> Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:19:12 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49378#49378 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : On days like that, we will just... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49376#49376 Author: psikes
Subject: 5080
Posted: 31 Jul 2014 at 9:58pm

On days like that, we will just park it and spend the day sightseeing or playing my banjo! Getting stranded three time on the same trip has led me to totally distrust the F250. I am sure reading a lot of posts from people towing with the Pilot and getting good results. At this point, most of our travels will be short haul and restricted to the a West coast. We are almost ready to pull the trigger on a 178, sometime in the next two weeks.

Thanks for all the input, Phil

]]> Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:58:37 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49376#49376 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : I started off towing my pod with... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49375#49375 Author: techntrek
Subject: 5080
Posted: 31 Jul 2014 at 9:49pm

I started off towing my pod with a Toyota Sienna. It was fine most of the time. Decent pickup from a dead start, no sway issues, etc. Then I had a long day towing in a very strong headwind. I was literally flooring it to do 45 and my mpgs that day fell through the floor. That's when I knew I needed to move to something more capable. Even though you will spend most of your time inside the envelope, eventually you'll hit a condition which will be outside the envelope. Just something to think about.

It is unfortunate if the 250 is unreliable, that does change your situation.

]]> Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:49:09 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49375#49375 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : I could tell some horror stories... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49283#49283 Author: psikes
Subject: 5080
Posted: 30 Jul 2014 at 11:01pm

I could tell some horror stories about my F250 but just suffice it to say that we were stranded three times on our last trip. We would love to lose the diesel and step down to a smaller trailer. I do appreciate all the comments. We will be doing very little mountain driving staying mostly on the coast of Washington and Oregon.

Thanks, Phil

]]> Wed, 30 Jul 2014 23:01:34 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49283#49283 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : Honestly I wouldn't tow any... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49267#49267 Author: GingerPod
Subject: 5080
Posted: 30 Jul 2014 at 9:37pm

Honestly I wouldn't tow any vehicle that is not really designed for towing,regardless of what the manufacturer says it's towing capability is.

Sure,mini-vans and small to mid-size Suv's and trucks will pull it,but rapid wear will result as they will be constantly straining,cooling systems maxed out,brakes at the limit,trans running real hot,etc,etc.

A full size truck or SUV is what I would recommend for longevity and peace of mind,especially during an emergency when an evasive lane change or panic brake is required.

]]> Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:37:01 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49267#49267 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : I'll repeat what hogone has... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49263#49263 Author: techntrek
Subject: 5080
Posted: 30 Jul 2014 at 9:28pm

I'll repeat what hogone has repeated. You have the 250, keep it. I have a 2010 Suburban with an 8000 pound towing limit, long wheel base, and over 300 hp and torque. The power is great at lower altitudes, but hauls last year over 7000 feet, and this year as high as 10,000 feet left it feeling like it had 100 hp and torque up there. There were long mountain passes in the Rockies where I was in 2nd doing 40, but similar passes in the Appalachians thousands of feet lower I had power to pass anyone.

Your 250 is designed to tow - high torque, hp, and long wheelbase.

]]> Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:28:22 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49263#49263 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : keep the 250 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49257#49257 Author: hogone
Subject: 5080
Posted: 30 Jul 2014 at 9:00pm

keep the 250]]> Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:00:31 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49257#49257 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : Phil,Here's my personal experience... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49256#49256 Author: CharlieM
Subject: 5080
Posted: 30 Jul 2014 at 8:57pm

Phil,

Here's my personal experience towing a 172 with a 4WD Pilot. There's no problem with the Honda pulling, controlling, and stopping the 178/179. Although they weigh 4-500# more than my 172 there should be no safety issues on level ground at sea level. I purposely chose the 172 because I knew I'd be towing in the Colorado mountains. Hills and elevation are not the small gasoline engine's best friend. So I found the Pilot would tow fine approaching the mountain passes, but 6% inclines were a challenge The gearing on the Pilot is such that 2nd was too high and 1st was too low for some of the steeper inclines. Fortunately some of the same passes were self limiting to 15 MPH and the higher you go the slower you go. That said I went over several 10-11000 ft. passes, just slowly. If you have a good and properly adjusted brake controller, and do it properly, you'll also have no problem coming down.

So the bottom line is you can do it, but slowly. And we love the West! Enjoy.
]]> Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:57:41 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49256#49256 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : keep the 250 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49255#49255 Author: hogone
Subject: 5080
Posted: 30 Jul 2014 at 8:55pm

keep the 250]]> Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:55:12 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49255#49255 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : Welcome to the group. We tow our... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49247#49247 Author: Leo B
Subject: 5080
Posted: 30 Jul 2014 at 7:50pm

Welcome to the group. We tow our 179 with our Dodge Grands Caravan through the mountains of Northern Vermont and New Hampshire without any problems so far. You Pilot should have no problem with either one]]> Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:50:34 +0000 https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49247#49247 2014 Honda Pilot and 178/179? : Just wondering if our new Honda... https://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5080&PID=49246#49246 Author: psikes
Subject: 5080
Posted: 30 Jul 2014 at 7:48pm

Just wondering if our new Honda Pilot 4WD is safe to tow either of these. I know the numbers work but would appreciate some real life experiences. I currently tow a 23' TT with a F250 diesel but we have done our big trips and want to scale back a bit.

Thanks, Phil

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