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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread : My parents were the same way....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1653" rel="nofollow">Tars Tarkas</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 May 2014 at 1:57am<br /><br />My parents were the same way.&nbsp; We never had air conditioning when I was a kid until Dad got transferred and they had to sell the house.&nbsp; (Once they got it they never went without it again, partly due to not being able to find houses to buy without it!)&nbsp; They were never cheap either, but as you say, certainly frugal.&nbsp; That was mostly a good thing in a lot of ways.<br><br>TT<br>]]>
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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread : While living in Florida, Andrew...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2297" rel="nofollow">fwunder</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 May 2014 at 3:13pm<br /><br />While living in Florida, Andrew was a huge boon for generator sales. Now in New Jersey, Sandy did the same. Still, there are a number of folks who still backfeed to electric dryer outlet.<div><br></div><div>I'm glad I went with second option also. Before Sandy.</div><div><br></div><div>fred</div>]]>
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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread :  It took 33 years at their current...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 May 2014 at 2:59pm<br /><br />It took 33 years at their current house to finally convince my parents to buy the generator (a hurricane a few years ago left them w/o power for 3 days, that sealed it).&nbsp; They are fairly frugal.&nbsp; As a kid&nbsp;I woke up many winter mornings freezing, and spent many summer nights trying to sleep&nbsp;in the heat and humidity.&nbsp; They refused to get A/C or cable tv&nbsp;until long after I was out of the house, even though all the neighbors and their friends&nbsp;had those luxuries and my parents certainly could afford them.&nbsp; So I chalk it up to frugality.&nbsp; They got a top of the line portable genset.&nbsp; If you can backfeed it for $50, why spend $$$ for another option? <div>&nbsp;</div><div>I took one of the other options.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread : Wow. A $4000 generator and a feeding...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1653" rel="nofollow">Tars Tarkas</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 May 2014 at 2:25pm<br /><br />&nbsp; Wow.&nbsp; A $4000 generator and a feeding through a 30 amp twist-lock outlet seems like an unusual combination!<br><br>&nbsp; TT<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 14:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread : No, due to the potential problems...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 May 2014 at 9:55am<br /><br />No, due to the potential problems I mentioned, you have to build your own, and only if you are certain you can eliminate the problems. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If you know enough to identify if you have MWBCs and/or 240 volt loads on whatever panel you will be powering, a simple/cheap option is to just turn those circuit breakers off while the genset is the power source.&nbsp; If the 2 circuit breakers that feed a MWBC aren't tied together (sometimes they are), you can turn off one of the two breakers and safely use just one circuit.&nbsp; Put this on your checklist so you are sure you don't miss it.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Speaking of checklists, they are a must.&nbsp; No matter how much you think you'll remember everything or how competent you are, under the stresses of the hurricane blowing outside coupled with your now-dark house, you will forget a step, or do a step out of order.&nbsp; Such as plugging in the generator, then starting it, then waiting 20 seconds, before finally&nbsp;flipping the transfer switch.&nbsp; In that order.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I've done it.&nbsp; One of the first times I powered my house using my Prius I forgot to turn off the Prius' A/C system.&nbsp; I remembered to turn off the screen and the radio, but I used 25% more fuel because I forgot the A/C.&nbsp; Now it is on my checklist.&nbsp; My father did something worse.&nbsp; His genset feeds his house through a backfed 30 amp twist-lock outlet (NOT recommended for multiple reasons!), and the first time he had an outage he wondered why the genset kept stalling.&nbsp; I knew why the second he called me - he forgot to turn off the main utility breaker!&nbsp; So he was dangerously trying to backfeed the entire grid... and if that grid had come back on at this point it would have blown up his $4000&nbsp;generator.&nbsp; Now he has a checklist.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread : Wow, do they sell whatever it...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1357" rel="nofollow">RPodWeGo</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 May 2014 at 1:08am<br /><br />Wow, do they sell whatever it is you are talking about on Amazon .... Plug 'n play too?????]]>
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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread :   Originally posted by techntrekAnd...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1653" rel="nofollow">Tars Tarkas</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2014 at 2:42pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by techntrek</strong></em><br /><br />And I didn't even get into the <em><strong>real</strong></em>&nbsp;head-explody stuff!</td></tr></table><br><br>Never the less, I'm scooping up grey matter here and there trying to save what I can...<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 14:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread : And I didn&amp;#039;t even get into...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2014 at 1:39pm<br /><br />And I didn't even get into the <EM><strong>real</strong></EM>&nbsp;head-explody stuff!]]>
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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread : OK then...First read made my head...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2297" rel="nofollow">fwunder</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2014 at 12:41pm<br /><br />OK then...<div><br></div><div>First read made my head explode. Second read was only mildly painful. Third read and I think I'm starting to get it.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope the test is going to be multiple choice!</div><div><br></div><div>Really, thanks Doug. That was exceptionally kind of you. Of course, now I have visions of exploding heads.</div><div><br></div><div>fred</div>]]>
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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread : The University of Dumbfoundedness...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1573" rel="nofollow">CharlieM</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2014 at 11:17am<br /><br /><font size="3"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The University of Dumbfoundedness hereby confers upon Techntrek the degree of Doctor of Wow for his weighty and comprehensive contribution to the RPOD community, electrical subdivision. His discourses, both detailed and voluminous, set a new standard others can only dream of. Thank you, Doug.</font></font>]]>
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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread :   oh my </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1821" rel="nofollow">hogone</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2014 at 9:51am<br /><br />oh my]]>
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   <title>Genset discussion from Podmod&gt;television thread : I moved these posts from the television...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2014 at 9:34am<br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: 0in 1.5pt 0.75pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>I moved these posts from the television discussion in the Podmod sub-forum. <?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>&nbsp;<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>Most residential service in North America has 2 parts (legs), each one is a separate 120 volt supply from the transformer outside.&nbsp; These can be combined to create 240 volts for the big stuff, like dryers and water heaters, and/or they can be used separately for the 120 volt loads.&nbsp; Some appliances like clothes washers use both at the same time.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>&nbsp;<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>The proper explanation for why you can get 120 and 240 at the same time is head-exploding stuff, so I won't get into it unless you want me to.&nbsp; What is important is that inside your circuit panel you have the 2 separate 120 volt “legs” (circuits).<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>&nbsp;<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>Now let’s say you have a generator that only&nbsp;outputs 120 volts, and you don't want to spend the big bucks to buy a transformer that would convert this to a proper 120 + 240 volt output (properly referred to as 120/240 split-phase).&nbsp; For most of the stuff in your house that is no big deal - most outlets, lights and appliances only need 120 volts.&nbsp;&nbsp;Half of them are wired up to one of the legs inside the circuit panel, the other half are wired up to the other leg.&nbsp; Electricians do this to balance the load between the two legs.&nbsp; Each leg operates independently from the other, and in a special situation (half of the utility transformer outside fails)&nbsp;you actually could lose just one of the legs so half the stuff in your house would work, and the other half wouldn't.&nbsp; I experienced this once in a commercial building, and my brother experienced this a few years ago at his home.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>&nbsp;<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>In order to make all the connections into (or out of) your circuit panel you need 4 wires.&nbsp; Leg 1 (similar to the + connection on a battery) usually colored red, leg 2 (ditto) usually colored black, neutral (similar to the - connection on a battery) colored white, and the ground wire is always green.&nbsp; If you put a volt meter on the red and white wires you'll see 120, black and white 120, black and red you'll see 240.&nbsp; Technically you'll see the same thing if you used the green wire instead of the white wire - but for safety reasons you never use the green wire for a load (that said, some clothes dryers in older homes, do...).<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>&nbsp;<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>So, most people would&nbsp;call an electrician and have them install a transfer switch plus a twist-lock plug which would allow you to run your house in an outage.&nbsp; That twist-lock plug has 4 connections... leg 1, leg 2, neutral, and ground.&nbsp;&nbsp;Medium-sized generators supply all 4 wires via a twist-lock outlet and you use a&nbsp;special heavy-duty extension cord to attach it to the twist-lock plug the electrician installed.&nbsp;&nbsp;Start the generator, plug in the extension cord, flip the transfer switch and now&nbsp;everything in your house will run&nbsp;normally - in theory.&nbsp; NOT getting into how you will only&nbsp;have enough power through a 30 amp twist-lock to run some of the stuff at one time, and big things like permanent A/C units&nbsp;won't be useable.&nbsp; You need a big&nbsp;permanently-wired generator like a Generac to actually run everything&nbsp;normally.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>&nbsp;<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>So, back to the small generator.&nbsp; Since it only outputs 120 volts you will only see a standard 120 volt outlet or a smaller twist-lock outlet on it.&nbsp; Either way, you only get 3 wires... Leg 1, neutral, and ground.&nbsp; No leg 2.&nbsp; How do you connect those 3 wires to the 4 wires?&nbsp; For&nbsp;MOST things in your house, you can just feed leg 1 from the generator to leg 1 and leg 2, plus the neutral and ground.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Both legs (black and red wires) in the circuit panel get 120 volts like they are expecting.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>But, due to the head-explody stuff I didn’t get into, if you put a voltmeter on the black and red wires you would see zero volts instead of 240 volts.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Because of this...<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>&nbsp;<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><U><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>There are 3 potential problems with this scenario, which is why you can’t go to Home Depot and buy a cable that would let you do this</SPAN></U><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Obviously 240 volt appliances won't run, you only have 120 volts.&nbsp; Some of them, like water heaters, only use 240 volts, they don’t use that neutral wire at all, and due to the head-explody stuff they will actually see zero volts.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>This is safe, they will effectively be completely off.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>No safety problem here, you just don’t get hot water.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Some big appliances use 120 and 240 volts, usually clothes dryers and combined washer/dryers, possibly stoves and ovens.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>They use 240 for the big heating elements and motors and 120 for the control board and the little light just inside the door.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>No 240 so they won’t run, but they could be damaged since the control board will still be active.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Its possible this would be a safety issue, too.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>So there is a problem here due to possible safety and damage issues (<U>unlikely</U>, if they are designed properly, but still possible).<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The real safety issue is the final potential problem, those multi-wire branch circuits (MWBC).<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>MWBCs are used for lighting and outlet circuits.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Many homes don’t have them, but many homes do.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>They let you create 2 separate circuits somewhere in the house using fewer wires, but they use 2 circuit breakers.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The simple explanation is they save money during installation since you use less copper in the walls, and they can reduce voltage drop if you get into some head-explody stuff.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>You have to know all the head-explody stuff to understand why these can be a real safety hazard using the “trick” I described above, just understand that <U>they can cause a fire in a worst-case scenario</U>.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It can be hard to figure out if you have them at all, even an electrician would have to poke around in the circuit panel for a while to find out.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Since they can be hard to identify and can cause a fire, I don’t recommend using this “trick” unless you really know what you are doing.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>There are multiple ways around this problem, but since you’ll need an electrician they aren’t cheap.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><O:P>&nbsp;</O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>In my case I installed a sub-panel which my big UPS powers all the time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>There are no 240 volt appliances on this subpanel (although ironically my big UPS outputs 120/240 split-phase so I could), and no MWBCs.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I actually did transfer a MWBC to the subpanel but I combined the 2 circuits to one circuit breaker, which eliminates the safety hazard.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>So that leaves me with a sub-panel that is safe to power from a 120-volt-only source like a smaller generator.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; I wired up my own special heavy-duty extension cord that combines leg 1 + leg 2 and will plug into the small generator and the sub-panel.</SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN><O:P>&nbsp;</O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0.75pt 1.5pt 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-: EN" lang=EN>Questions?&nbsp; <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley29.gif" height="20" width="20" border="0" alt="Wacko" title="Wacko" /><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2297" rel="nofollow">fwunder</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 May 2014 at 9:39pm<br /><br />You lost me with the bonding multi-branch circuit thing.&nbsp;<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" alt="C&#111;nfused" title="C&#111;nfused" /><div><br></div><div>I'm usually pretty good at figuring stuff out but I got some kind of mental issue with this. Kinda like leaving my sunroof open during a rainstorm. I'll figure it out though...damnit!</div><div><br></div><div>fred</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4693<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 May 2014 at 8:03pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by fwunder</strong></em><br /><br />...<div>At home I was hoping to do as you suggest, using my 12kw Generac when needed for well and furnace and the pod Yamaha 2400 for "off-peak"....</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;<div>Just this past weekend I ran my 120 volt loads (on a subpanel for my UPS) for 21 hours as a test, from my new Honda. &nbsp;I was curious what it would burn per hour. &nbsp;Ended up being almost identical to my Prius, at around 0.15 gallon/hr. &nbsp;Since it only outputs 120 I made a pigtail which bonds both legs together as it feeds the subpanel. &nbsp;In my case this is safe since there are no multi-wire branch circuits or 240 volt loads on that panel.</div></div>]]>
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