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   <title>Tire replacement :  I just bought some Goodyear...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12598" rel="nofollow">hank*pod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Mar 2023 at 4:15pm<br /><br />I just bought some Goodyear Endurance tires from Discount Tire Direct and they're dated 3722 and 3822 so mid-September - about 6 months old.]]>
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   <title>Tire replacement : +1After learning about tire date...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Mar 2023 at 10:57am<br /><br />+1<div><br></div><div>After learning about tire date codes, I've made it an informal practice to check, and the tires have always been relatively "fresh" in the neighborhood of 3-6 months.</div><div><br></div><div>I would think that with the high demand for RVs in general plus the supply chain issues that it would be hard to find tires that are more than a few months old. That is not based on fact so much as noodling here in my chair.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 10:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement : It is likely that FR and the other...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Mar 2023 at 6:33am<br /><br />It is likely that FR and the other large RV companies are able to require their chassis manufacturers to build to their specifications, including suspensions and tires. &nbsp;They have the capacity to tell the chassis manufacturers that they want tires that are reasonably fresh instead of 2 or 3 years into their life span. &nbsp;Where there are 2 or 3 year old tires being installed on new trailers, it is clear that somewhere in the supply chain there are some sort of delays occurring to the detriment of new trailer purchasers.<div><br></div><div>From my personal experience, when I've purchased new Carlisle tires for ourPod and our Sonoma, the new tires have never been more than 6 months old, per the sidewall dates. &nbsp;If I purchased a "new" tire that was over a year old I think I'd either return it or demand a prorated discount from the price. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 06:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement :   Originally posted by lostagainI...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8960" rel="nofollow">gpokluda</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Mar 2023 at 2:26pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by lostagain</strong></em><br /><br />I wonder if the delay between the build date of the trailers and the manufacture date of the tires is the result of supply chain delays or whether the trailer builders are stockpiling tires and not using them up fast enough. &nbsp;My speculation is that it is a supply chain delay issue. &nbsp;Perhaps it's time for the trailer builders to be a little more strict with the date of the manufacture of tires when they receive them. &nbsp;On the other hand, there may be some very good deals on aging out tires when purchased by the thousands and the opportunity to reduce material costs is just too tempting for Mr. Buffet and others.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>My understanding, at least from the small manufacturer that made our current trailer, is that the manufacturer purchases the axle, wheel/tires and in our case, even the frame as a unit from a third party supplier. In the case of our Escape, the frame, tires, wheels, and axles come from Dexter. I think the last thing a manufacturer wants is inventory like tires and wheels laying around consuming valuable production space.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2023 14:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement :   Originally posted by lostagainOn...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1146" rel="nofollow">jato</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Mar 2023 at 12:21pm<br /><br /><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by lostagain</strong></em><br /><br /></div><div>&nbsp;On the other hand, there may be some very good deals on aging out tires when purchased by the thousands and the opportunity to reduce material costs is just too tempting for Mr. Buffet and others.</td></tr></table> <br></div><div>This seems like a very plausible answer as when our 177 was built, January 2011, supply chain issues or the like which is experienced today wasn't a factor or even spoken about as they are today.<br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2023 12:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement : I wonder if the delay between...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 Mar 2023 at 5:50am<br /><br />I wonder if the delay between the build date of the trailers and the manufacture date of the tires is the result of supply chain delays or whether the trailer builders are stockpiling tires and not using them up fast enough. &nbsp;My speculation is that it is a supply chain delay issue. &nbsp;Perhaps it's time for the trailer builders to be a little more strict with the date of the manufacture of tires when they receive them. &nbsp;On the other hand, there may be some very good deals on aging out tires when purchased by the thousands and the opportunity to reduce material costs is just too tempting for Mr. Buffet and others.]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2023 05:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement :   Originally posted by James07...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1146" rel="nofollow">jato</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 Mar 2023 at 5:33am<br /><br /><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by James07</strong></em><br /><br />&nbsp; Happy with tires, except they were already two years old when purchased from Sam's Club. &nbsp;Lesson learn is to exam tires before they install them.</td></tr></table> <br></div><div><br></div><div>Funny you should mention that as when I went to replace my original "Tire King" tires on a 177 at 5 years, it was noted that even though the build date was January 2011 the tires were manufactured during the summer of 2009, so even though they were china tires with 20,000+ miles at the time, no issues were encountered and the tires looked great, even after 7 years.&nbsp; 2016-2020 had Hartland "C" tires - no issues and since then Carlisle Radial Trail "D" tires - a great tire! <br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2023 05:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement : I went with Toyo Open Country...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10035" rel="nofollow">James07</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Mar 2023 at 8:33pm<br /><br />I went with Toyo Open Country A/T on 178. &nbsp;Drove over 7,000 miles round trip California to Alaska.&nbsp;<div>Handled pot holes and frost heaves on the Alcan without any damage. &nbsp;Happy with tires, except they were already two years old when purchased from Sam's Club. &nbsp;Lesson learn is to exam tires before they install them.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2023 20:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement :  Proving your use in this kind...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 Feb 2023 at 6:15am<br /><br />Proving your use in this kind of a situation really should not be an issue with FR, though an unscrupulous dealer may raise the issue because that's their mindset; that everyone cheats like they do. &nbsp;You are really talking about a dispute that is more one of principle than money, as the total cost of putting new tires on the trailer is well under $400.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Here's an Indiana number for r-Pod: &nbsp;574.825.7000. &nbsp;My experience calling there was for parts, back in the days when they sold parts to their customers, but they were always very friendly and courteous.</div><div><br></div><div>We had a recall issue with our 172 when we bought it. &nbsp;It was used and well out of warranty, but the recall was a safety issue concerning inadequate running lights. &nbsp;We bought our trainer from a dealer in Los Baños, CA, despite the fact that we lived near Carson City, NV. &nbsp;I called a local r-Pod dealer in Reno and was told that they would be able to get to it in about a year. &nbsp;Non-selling dealers simply won't deal with warranty repairs voluntarily. &nbsp;We took the trailer back to the selling dealer and they did the recall repair, but made a mistake with the wiring. &nbsp;I worked it out with them to pay a local independent shop to fix their error. &nbsp;They handled the situation with such integrity that we bought our Sonoma from them as well. &nbsp;Unfortunately, in the RV world, especially with FR, there is very poor dealer control on the part of the manufacturer. &nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2023 06:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement : Lostagain,First, indeed we do...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12410" rel="nofollow">Geezerbill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 Feb 2023 at 8:28pm<br /><br />Lostagain,<div><br></div><div>First, indeed we do and thanks for that contact information.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>As my Rpod is a 192 with Murphy bed I do not think it was manufactured on the west cost but I’m not sure about that.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The big issue as I see it, is I have no way to proved the miles I have used the trailer. It easily could become a pointing game. To lie about it is not in my DNA but I still have zero proof. I did take some photos with a plastic tread depth gage in the on ground tire and the spare but it is difficult to see.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>However, I will indeed call the lady and see what comes out of it. I thank you for the kind, helpful response you have provided me with.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement :  Geezerbill, it may be worth...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 Feb 2023 at 4:51pm<br /><br /><font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Geezerbill, it may be worth a phone call to the r-Pod customer service number. &nbsp;You may want to try this: &nbsp;Katlyn Mabie&nbsp;<a href="tel:%28574%29%20642-3119" target="_blank">(574) 642-3119</a>. &nbsp;She's the service department rep for the West Coast r-Pod factory. &nbsp;If she can't help, she'll probably transfer you to someone you can. &nbsp;</font><div><font size="2" face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font size="2" face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I suspect FR will take this seriously since it can have some legal implications for them and they may want to address the issue with the dealer, which is their agent.<br></font><div><font size="2" face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font size="2" face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">We geezers need to stick together.<br></font><br ="apple-interchange-newline"=""></div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement : Glue Guy,The trailer is in storage...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12410" rel="nofollow">Geezerbill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 Feb 2023 at 4:14pm<br /><br />Glue Guy,<div><br></div><div>The trailer is in storage but possibly I can go over there tomorrow and look and see if I can find it.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement : I believe you are correct. The...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12410" rel="nofollow">Geezerbill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 Feb 2023 at 4:12pm<br /><br />I believe you are correct. The trailer seemed very new but not the tires. I checked my documentation provided by the dealer yesterday and there is not anything on tires. As you suggested, I am sending an email to FR with the vin code and all buying information with an explanation of why I am requesting the tires provided by them.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>It’s going to be interesting if my tires are not those that were installed at the factory.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your response and informative suggestions.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Also, please note that I had indeed, inflated to the max per sidewall data, not my five lbs under max as I had stated.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement : I wonder, what is the date code...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 Feb 2023 at 10:06am<br /><br />I wonder, what is the date code on those tires?]]>
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   <title>Tire replacement : It really sounds to me like the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Feb 2023 at 3:40pm<br /><br />It really sounds to me like the selling dealer put some used tires on your trailer and didn't bother to properly inflate them when it delivered the trailer. &nbsp;For r-Pods the normal OEM tires are Westlake brand. &nbsp;It really sounds like the dealer did a swap and gave you a set of used tires. &nbsp;With a little tire "dressing" to make them look new, it would not likely be something most people would scrutinize during a purchase, since there is so much other stuff to look at. &nbsp;It might be worth a call to FR/r-Pod with your VIN in hand and ask them what their records show for the tires they mounted on the trailer. &nbsp;Usually, tire warranties are from the tire manufacturer and are included in the stack of paperwork you get with the trailer. &nbsp;Do you have a warranty brochure from Goodyear or Westlake?<div><br></div><div><div>Swapping new tires for used ones on the sale of a new vehicle, especially if it is not called to your attention by the selling dealer, is a form of fraud. &nbsp;Imagine buying a nice new Tesla model X and finding that the tires on it were old and worn out. &nbsp;When you buy a "new" vehicle of any kind, everything is supposed to be new, unless the seller tells you otherwise and you agree to the used parts. &nbsp;That includes trailers. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Seventeen pounds under max pressure for 180 miles should not cause that much wear on the tires, especially ferrying it back home from the dealer where it's likely to not have a lot of extra weight. &nbsp;Running 5 lbs below on a C or D range tire can cause some excess tread wear on the sides, leaving the center of the tire tread thicker by comparison. &nbsp;I think you'll find most on this board advocate inflating to the maximum sidewall number. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck in getting this sorted out. &nbsp;</div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2023 15:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement : Thank you for that response Lostagain....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12410" rel="nofollow">Geezerbill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Feb 2023 at 2:00pm<br /><br />Thank you for that response Lostagain. I did purchase the unit new from a dealer in Oregon which is 180 miles away from where I live in Washington. After driving the trailer home, the next day I checked tire pressures and found it down nearly seventeen lbs. &nbsp;I then inflated to five lbs blow the sidewall max inflation value. I then visually compared the tread depth to that of the spare and was shocked at the difference. That is why I feel either the trailer or the tires were not new. Most likely the tires.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I also have two pending recalls on the pod but chose to have a local dealer to do that to save driving nearly two hundred miles and possibly having to stay overnight away. However, the local dealer seems to have an attitude about doing it. I am awaiting spring before I take it there for the warranty work to be done.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I will look into the tire warranty and see if I can pursue that.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again for your comments!</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2023 14:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement :    Did you purchase the trailer...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Feb 2023 at 1:45pm<br /><br />Did you purchase the trailer new from a dealer? &nbsp;What was the running pressure you maintained for your 800 miles? &nbsp;Normally, Goodyear tires are not OEM tires on FR trailers. &nbsp;Usually you get a set of Westlakes. &nbsp;If you bought the trailer used it may be that the prior owner put a set of used Goodyear tires on it in place of the originals. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>If the trailer was purchased new from a dealer and if you maintained proper pressure and balance, you may want to check the tire warranty to see if there is some form assistance that may be available for prematurely worn tires, provided they are the OEM tires. The wear pattern in the tire tread should tell the story about inflation and balance. &nbsp;Same for sidewall condition, insofar as impacts with curbs and such are concerned. &nbsp;If the dealer swapped out the original OEM Westlakes for used Goodyears, that is something that you may want to take up with the local consumer fraud detail in your county if the dealer doesn't want to make it right.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2023 13:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tire replacement : Interesting. I have a 2022 Rpod...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12410" rel="nofollow">Geezerbill</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Feb 2023 at 1:10pm<br /><br />Interesting. I have a 2022 Rpod 192 with about 800 miles on Goodyear Endurance and they are nearly 60% worn out. Very possible they were not new on the trailer when purchased.&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2023 at 11:01am<br /><br />This is part of my morning entertainment; dead animals and all.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jan 2023 at 4:18am<br /><br />Actually, LA and I have lots in common. Which,  being old and opinionated, just makes us more argumentative about the things we disagree on. Such is human nature.<br /><br />I keep telling my wife  about the equestrian dangers every time she goes riding.<br /><br />But then, she reminds me that I fly an experimental aircraft. So that puts a quick  end to that discussion..<br /><br />The problem I have with horses is that you have there a huge powerful animal that thinks everything it sees is trying to eat it. Makes them unpredictable. I really wish our riding animals had been bread up from dogs or some other omnivore that wasn't so fearful all the time. That would be safer I think.  The original horse was dog sized after all. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1146" rel="nofollow">jato</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2023 at 6:05pm<br /><br />OG and LA, too bad you aren't neighbors.&nbsp; I do like both pics of beating a dead horse though.&nbsp; And even my wife thought they were funny; we had horses for a long time and are still alive to talk about it.&nbsp; But now that we are in our 60's we have gotten wiser and value our&nbsp; . . . . . lives and limbs.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2023 at 2:38pm<br /><br /><img src="https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/540/658/5e8.jpg" border="0" alt="No, really. | Beating A Dead Horse | Know Your Meme" title="No, really. | Beating A Dead Horse | Know Your Meme" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2023 at 2:08pm<br /><br />I'm definitely not gonna show that to my wife or her horse, one of them might be offended.<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <br /><br />And LA, maybe when  someone quotes one of my posts asking for my response, you might want to just leave your club holstered when I respond with my opinion, and simply state your own if you disagree. All of this is just opinion after all, and Im sure the folks on here can do their own filtering.  The shrinking horse population will be most grateful...<br /> <br /><br /><br /> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2023 at 1:13pm<br /><br /><b>THANK YOU!!!</b>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2023 at 11:49am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by lostagain</strong></em><br /><br /><img src="" border="0" alt="Beating A Dead Horse Funny Sticker - Beating A Dead Horse ..." title="Beating A Dead Horse Funny Sticker - Beating A Dead Horse ..." />&nbsp; I guess I can't post a beating a dead horse meme here. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" alt="C&#111;nfused" title="C&#111;nfused" /></td></tr></table><div>I'll do it for you.</div><div><img src="uploads/7014/beat_dead_horse2.jpg" height="405" width="600" border="0" /><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2023 at 11:37am<br /><br /><img src="https://encrypted-tbn0atic/imagesq=tbn:ANd9GcRpUklF_5mA5gEiU0qDr8Drm-J3KnBknUBMj62ccVfKyg&ampamps" border="0" alt="Beating A Dead Horse Funny Sticker - Beating A Dead Horse ..." title="Beating A Dead Horse Funny Sticker - Beating A Dead Horse ..." />&nbsp; I guess I can't post a beating a dead horse meme here. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" alt="C&#111;nfused" title="C&#111;nfused" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2023 at 8:47am<br /><br />Yet again LA you're putting words in my mouth. I never said that all brands or models within a brand are equivalent. That's absurd. <br /><br />I just bought a GM product with trepidation after decades of owning Toyotas. But I had both direct and 3rd party model specific data supporting my choice of the Toyotas.<br /><br />I'll stick with why statement. Buying by brand, rather than via actual 3rd party data, is a short cut for consumers motivated primarily by fear of making a mistake. Ask any trained marketing professional and I'm sure they'll say the same thing. <br /><br />Nothing inherently wrong with that, I do it too sometimes. We all do. No one has time to research every purchase they make. You have to pick your battles and dig into the big and or key purchases that really matter to you.<br /><br />For the rest of it, what I try to do for my shortcut is to buy the least expensive item that has the specs or features I need, ignoring brand. That process has worked out quite well for me over the years and doesn't really take any longer than just buying the recognized brand. But if you want to use the brand shortcut instead, that's fine. Nothing wrong with that, as Ive said 5 times at least.<br /><br />Ive noticed more activity on FB Marketplace than CL lately as well. Can't say there's any difference in the number of scammers and tire kickers though.<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /><br /><br />Which alternative is cheaper depends on your particular situation. There is no way to know without looking into it. I needed a 15 inch upgrade and mounting was expensive where I was living at that time. Lots of old boat trailers around so a ready market for used mounted trailer tires. So I was way ahead doing what I did. Probably that hadn't changed with time. <br /><br />If you don't need new wheels, have a Walmart nearby that does cheap mounting, and you can buy the tires on their website and have them shipped to the store then that could well be cheaper. <br /><br />In fact that's what I did a few weeks ago for my Highlander. <br /><br />But I didn't buy high end brand name tires for it either. There was 3rd party data available so I got a Kumho model which got a good rating on CU at a good price point.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley15.gif" border="0" align="middle" /><br /><br /> ]]>
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   <title>Tire replacement :   Sophistry??? I&amp;#039;m not...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2023 at 8:17am<br /><br /><div>Sophistry??? I'm not the one who said: "<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"><i>My recommendation is to forget the brand. Ive taken a couple graduate level marketing courses. Buying anything by brand is a shortcut consumers afraid of making a mistake take when they don't have enough actual information to make an informed decision. Companies know that very well and play on those fears.</i>" &nbsp;"Anything" is a pretty broad brush to denounce the idea of the possibility that some brands have higher quality than others. &nbsp;It may actually be possible that some companies value their reputation in the marketplace and pay attention to high quality. &nbsp;</span></div><div><span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"><br></span></div><div><span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">I am also a fan of Craigslist and use it from time to time. &nbsp;My point is that it isn't a panacea for selling used stuff. &nbsp;I can't speak to FaceBook as I never look at it, though the last time I sold a washer on Craigslist, some acquaintances told me that there was more action on FaceBook. &nbsp;I turned down the full price offers and requests for my email address.</span></div><div><br></div><div><span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">We agree that Consumer Reports can be a good source of product information. &nbsp;Usually, because I'm one cheap bastard, the paywall blocks me from using it as a resource. &nbsp;Do they actually have a review of ST trailer tires in the last few years? &nbsp;I saw one with Forbes, but turned out to be more marketing with links to tire vendors, which make me a little suspicious of their claims.&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"><br></span></div><div><span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">I'm glad to hear that you found a good deal on replacement trailer tires many years ago. &nbsp;Sometimes things change over time and it's always helpful to do a little homework than to take representations found on social media at face value, certainly including mine. &nbsp;It isn't an issue of arguing with you, it's a matter of wanting to help out with answering a legitimate question about tire purchasing, which is one of the points of posting on this board.</span></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2023 at 7:45am<br /><br />Good grief LA,  please spare me the sophistry. You are not reading what I'm saying. <br /><br />I said that unless you have 3rd party data demonstrating that one product from one brand is better than another then purchasing by brand is pointless. You can go to a 3rd party like Consumer Reports and evaluate a Fiat vs a BMW. You'd have to do that by model, not by overall brand, auto reliability can and does vary greatly by model within a brand. And of course you'd need to compare competitive models, I doubt anyone considering buying a BMW model would be looking at Fiats. <br /><br />But for sure, Consumer Reports is a good 3rd party source for comparing reliability data between car models. I've not seen anything equivalent regarding trailer tire reliability  and I've looked. Have you?  It's all anechdote.<br /><br />As for pricing, I wound up with installed 15 inch 2100 lb rated tires and wheels for significantly  less than I would have paid for replacement "brand name" mounted 1750 lb tires. Hence my suggestion. I have no idea if that is true today or not, but I have confidence that hank*pod (who was specifically asking me if I had a Westlake alternative for Goodyear) or anyone else on this forum is smart enough to do that conparison shopping themselves for their specific situation, if so inclined.  The fact that you took the time to do that yourself indicates to me that all you want to do is argue with me.<br /><br />The brand argument isn't one I want to get into with you, yet again. I specifically said that it's just fine with me if someone wants to buy by brand, it's just not something I do, or would recommend. Enough on that already. <br /><br />As for CL, if you don't like advertising there that's fine. There's also Facebook Marketplace and many other alternatives. I buy and sell stuff on both often, and know how to sift through the scammers and tire kickers, most of the time anyway. I like repurposing stuff someone else no longer needs, and vice versa, rather than sending stuff to recycling or the landfill.  That's just me  If CL or FB aren't your cup of tea, that's fully understandable and ok in my book. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15583<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 Jan 2023 at 6:32am<br /><br />If I understand your argument, there is no difference in build and component quality between a Fiat and a BMW; it's all just marketing. &nbsp;Hmmm?<div><br></div><div>Buying pre-mounted tires makes sense, provided there is a price and quality advantage over buying individual tires and time and expense of having them mounted. &nbsp;I checked the price at the place you suggested for the tire in this thread and an aluminum rim that would be similar to the ones I have. &nbsp;It's $228 for a bias ply tire and rim, plus $55 for UPS shipping or $50 for FedEx. &nbsp;When I replaced he defective Westlake tire and the punctured Carlisle, I paid $110 each for the tires and about $15 for mounting and balancing each. &nbsp;So, the total cost, not counting the time driving to and from the tire shop, was $158 cheaper per tire for a radial tire of a relatively known &nbsp;quality vs. a bias ply tire of on uncertain quality. &nbsp;There can be an additional complication if you only need one tire; you'd likely end up with different rims and tires on each side of the trailer. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The idea of selling stuff on Craigs list can be good, provided you don't get inundated with scammers trying to get your personal information or trying to do a phony purchase for the asking price that turns out to be a grift. &nbsp;Oh, and then the people who call to schedule a time to see the tires, then don't show up..... &nbsp;Selling stuff with Craigslist ads can be a really good deal, but it is filled with time wasters and risks too. &nbsp;</div>]]>
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