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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : needless to say I am replacing...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12094" rel="nofollow">CAPTKIDD</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Oct 2023 at 12:16pm<br /><br />needless to say I am replacing it with a Dexter axel.]]>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : 10-4 </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9185" rel="nofollow">wvanauken</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Oct 2023 at 12:12pm<br /><br />10-4]]>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : I assume you are talking about...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12094" rel="nofollow">CAPTKIDD</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Oct 2023 at 11:48am<br /><br />I assume you are talking about my axels and the answer is they were bent.]]>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : So the million dollar question...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9185" rel="nofollow">wvanauken</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Oct 2023 at 7:42pm<br /><br />So the million dollar question is: Why exactly has Lippert replaced these axles. I haven't heard one thing about that yet.]]>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : I have an RPod 186 and had to...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12094" rel="nofollow">CAPTKIDD</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Oct 2023 at 1:14pm<br /><br />I have an RPod 186 and had to replace a bent Lippert axel after only 5,000 miles and guess what the new replacement axel only lasted less than 600 miles.&nbsp; Lippert is not offering any compensation.&nbsp; My new axel will be a Dexter.&nbsp; Down time is 6 to 8 weeks.&nbsp; Hopefully the Dexter will last a lot longer.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2023 13:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : +1 on the axle derating. </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Oct 2023 at 11:51am<br /><br />+1 on the axle derating.]]>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : The axle would be rated at 4400...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Oct 2023 at 11:43am<br /><br />The axle would be rated at 4400 lbs if it weren't for the cantilevered connection to the inboard frame. It is de-rated to 3500 lbs because of that, at least that was my understanding way back when.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2023 11:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : It isn&amp;#039;t exclusive to R-Pods....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 Oct 2023 at 6:38pm<br /><br />It isn't exclusive to R-Pods. Forest River makes the Cherokee Grey Wolf I have now. I am still finding things that aren't right. One of the more recent ones was that trying to connect cable to the system and then turning off the antenna amplifier, I could not get the TV to get a clear picture from the cable. I had the park check the pole and we narrowed it down to the trailer. I thought it was the trailer wiring. I am not sure now. I think it may be the plate with the booster. I could get a clear picture with the TV connected directly to the park's cable. I could not do so when trying to run through the trailer's cable.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2023 18:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : I don&amp;#039;t have my 179 any more,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8960" rel="nofollow">gpokluda</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 Oct 2023 at 1:04pm<br /><br />I don't have my 179 any more, but I am pretty sure my axle was only rated at 3500 lbs as well. I remember because my dry weight was 3100lbs so we only had 400lbs of added weight to work with.<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2023 13:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : My axle is rated 3500 lbs on my...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9185" rel="nofollow">wvanauken</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 Oct 2023 at 11:23am<br /><br />My axle is rated 3500 lbs on my 180. Forest River is currently gathering all my info and am not sure where they are going with it. Probably offer me a new axle. I'm a bit hesitant on this. I mean if they provide a new axle plus install the out rigger supports, that would be great right? It's just that when I first got the trailer, there were many many things wrong with it. Sure...all the issues were fixed at the dealer and some I fixed myself, but it was a nightmare as there were about 17 issues I addressed with them. I had no use of the unit for the first 2-3 months while the dealership had the unit and was going back and forth communication with FR. FR actually cut me a check for $500 to compensate me for my trouble, frustration, hassle and leg work. I requested the compensation and they agreed, but this was only after I provided them with a write up and pics, and then had to convince them that sure the items were covered under the warranty, but I impressed upon them that the warranty should be for the things that might go wrong after you start using it like insurance. Not for deficiencies that were there when the unit left the factory. And the dealership for all there hard work were really caught in the middle. Afterall, the factory was taking advantage of them and other dealerships I suppose for using them to fix their mistakes and poor workmanship. Anyway, I'm just hesitant and anxious about turning the unit back to them for who knows how long especially knowing their poor workmanship. Would really appreciate your thoughts and maybe suggestions to help here. I've appreciated your feed back on this as well as everyone else's.&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2023 11:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : If you check out the Lippert axle...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 Oct 2023 at 10:24am<br /><br />If you check out the Lippert axle on the RP179, you will note that it's rated for around 4400 lbs, which is well over the GVWR of the RP179. I think the designers felt that was sufficient to compensate for the cantilever stress. Unfortunately, there are many all-to-typical situations where road conditions effectievly cancel that.<div><br></div><div>Instead of enlarging the entire frame, they could probably done a little "kick out" in the 3-5 foot zone of the axle and slide out, and that would have been sufficient to fix both of those issues. Saddly, that's not the way it's gone.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2023 10:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : IMO, as a new owner of a 2016...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=13071" rel="nofollow">Austintaco</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 Oct 2023 at 1:05pm<br /><br />IMO, as a new owner of a 2016 179, it’s a combination of bad build quality, bad axle, bad frame design, and use. The fact that outriggers are being used on newer models indicates that they do help compensate for the bad design. I think FR was able to push off some of the warranty work on Lippert because they switched axles, but I think the torsion axles even outside of the ones specified are crap. The use of WDH might contribute, but that should have been factored in. Knowing all that, I’m doing everything I can to beef up the areas and avoid the problems.&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2023 13:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : Thank you for your comments and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9185" rel="nofollow">wvanauken</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 Oct 2023 at 12:06pm<br /><br />Thank you for your comments and I agree 100%. Since I have gotten Forest River's attention and they are requesting more info and pics from me, I'm going to start the process with them and see where it goes.&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2023 12:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : The axle problem and the floor...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 Oct 2023 at 9:47am<br /><br />The axle problem and the floor sag problem are two different problems unrelated to each other, but with the same underlying cause. It's the fact that the frame is inboard from the outer walls by about 6" (that's the floor sag issue), and that the wheels are roughly a foot outboard of the frame (that's the axle issue).<div><br></div><div>If the frame had been made wider by about a foot, there would be no floor sag, and it would reduce and mostly eliminate the axle issue.&nbsp;<br><br>The problem for Forrest River is that making the frame wider would make the trailer much heavier, and would also create support issues in the center/floor area, which would require additional cross members, and make it heavier still.</div><div><br></div><div>Both issues can be mitigated at an additional cost, and probably with some additional weight.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2023 09:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : That was what was determined by...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10120" rel="nofollow">Tomtreas</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2023 at 7:27pm<br /><br />That was what was determined by the axle manufacturer yes and why they are paying to fix the damages to over 20,000 units. This is not on Forest River but they are doing the work and being compensated by the Axle manufacturer. I speculate that what is happening is is with the extra torque on that axle it causes the bouncing to cause too much tension to the floor and starts to break it down. I'm just guessing here though. Be thankful you aren't me in the damage is caused by something else and I have to pay for my floor replacement out of my own pocket.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2023 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : Thanks for your suggestion Tomtreas....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9185" rel="nofollow">wvanauken</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2023 at 7:23pm<br /><br />Thanks for your suggestion Tomtreas. I will give that some thought. After my bad experience with Forest River when I first bought this unit, I'm not sure that I want to give it up to them for who knows how long. On the other hand, if the over torsioned axle is one of the main cause for the floor sag, I guess I can understand that sort of. But what gets me is the sag is only under the slide out, no where else. Uhh...are they really saying that it is because the trailer bounces down the road and/or not sprung correctly which is leading to the issue of floor sag out board of the frame. Mmmmm? My trailer handles great when towing and I've not observed any issues.&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2023 19:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : wvanauken, From what I understand,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10120" rel="nofollow">Tomtreas</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2023 at 6:58pm<br /><br />wvanauken, From what I understand, the sagging floor under the slider issue is a problem that started with the 2017 manufacturing line and I'm not exactly sure how long the window goes forward but the best thing that you can do is gather the information that Hope ask you for and send it to her so she can make sure that it falls within the program window. She told me herself that the axle manufacturer was paying for recalls and paying to fix the damage caused by an over tensioned axle.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2023 18:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : I have a problem too with floor...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9185" rel="nofollow">wvanauken</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2023 at 9:15am<br /><br /><span style="color: rgb15, 15, 15; font-family: Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; white-space-collapse: preserve;">I have a problem too with floor sag directly underneath the slide out on my 2019 R-pod 180. I contacted Forest River about obtaining the supports, but instead got a lot push back. They feel that the supports just fixes a symptom and not the problem. They wanted me to take pictures showing the over hang sag with a combination square which I felt was reasonable. They sent me a questionnaire titled "Over Torsion Axle" where they also wanted a pictures of the axle tag on the Lippert axle, pictures of my towing set up, hitch set up, hitch, weight distribution hitch with the brand, tongue and weight capacities and tow vehicle type. They also wanted pictures of the unit showing the clearance between the fender and tires. Apparently they feel that this body sag is related to the axle and weight distribution hitch. I told her specifically that the floor sag was only evident directly under the slide out. That there is no sag in any other location. I told her that I felt sure that the issue was because of the lack of out rigger body supports at the frame. I measured the distance from each side of the frame at the axle to the ground which was exactly the same. I used a string to check for any bend in the axle housing - none. I checked the distance between the fenders and the tires which was almost the same. There was some difference in the clearance measurement only because I discovered that one fender was mounted higher on the body than the other one! I asked if I could just purchase the outrigger supports from her direct and she refused. She also wanted pictures of the inside floor sag with a level. I told her that there was no evidence of interior sag or separation between the floor and wall and hopefully will avoid any future separation if I can get these outrigger supports now so that I can install them immediately. She actually said no that I still needed to get pictures interior floor with a level. I'm at wits end with Forest River. I had many issues with this unit when I first got the unit new (that's a whole different story). I told her that if I can't get the outrigger supports from her, that I would go to a local fabricator and have them made. </span>]]>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle :   Originally posted by Bowcat66I...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Aug 2023 at 9:38pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Bowcat66</strong></em><br /><br />I have a 2016 180 that has zero outriggers installed. I do show a small amount of sagging, but even when I jack it up, it doesn't square it up. I have the outriggers ready to install, but am now confused because it doesn't square up. Have any of you had this issue? And did you go ahead an install the outriggers?</td></tr></table>Once the floor frame is bent, it will take some doing to get it to square up. I saw that it has already been suggested to jack it up, let it sit, then jack some more. Hopefully, that will work for you.]]>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : I am located in Pampa, Texas....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12946" rel="nofollow">Bowcat66</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Aug 2023 at 6:29pm<br /><br />I am located in Pampa, Texas. Put a square against the frame and the floor under your slide, it should be a 90 degree angle. Mine is approx. 3/16" - 1/4" off. This is durle to the weight of the slide out when extended. The outriggers should help. ]]>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : Bowcat,I&#226;&#8364;&#8482;m new to the scene...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=13071" rel="nofollow">Austintaco</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Aug 2023 at 5:39pm<br /><br />Bowcat,<div>I’m new to the scene and not as well versed as others, but I have read on here and the FB group that if it’s sagging too much, you will need to jack it up, let it sit and adjust, and then try some more. Where are you located in Texas? I would be curious to see what the sag looks like and what to look out for.</div>]]>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : I have a 2016 180 that has zero...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=12946" rel="nofollow">Bowcat66</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Aug 2023 at 4:32pm<br /><br />I have a 2016 180 that has zero outriggers installed. I do show a small amount of sagging, but even when I jack it up, it doesn't square it up. I have the outriggers ready to install, but am now confused because it doesn't square up. Have any of you had this issue? And did you go ahead an install the outriggers?]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2023 16:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : Update: They don&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t think my...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=13071" rel="nofollow">Austintaco</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Aug 2023 at 4:06pm<br /><br />Update: They don’t think my axle is in the problem period but they are sending all of my photos and info to Lippert. My Driver side tire does lean in and when I look at my axle from the front and even though it’s a Hood river, I have barely and inch of clearance with the fenders. This might all be related to something other than the axle/frame issues though.&nbsp;<div>I’ll wait to see if FR or Lippert recommend anything, but I will probably brace it and add outriggers as a precaution. If my axle has lost its camber or is not clocked correctly, I will probably put a new axle on as well.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2023 16:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : OH! Weight Distribution Hitch....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10120" rel="nofollow">Tomtreas</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 Aug 2023 at 1:32pm<br /><br />OH!&nbsp; Weight Distribution Hitch.&nbsp; Why Yes, Yes I am.&nbsp; I believe all of my gear is Reese for that.<div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 13:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle :   Originally posted by AustintacoInteresting...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10120" rel="nofollow">Tomtreas</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 Aug 2023 at 1:31pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Austintaco</strong></em><br /><br />Interesting is that they also ask about the use of a WDH and what type and brand, so they are tracking other details that might play into the failures.<br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>WDH?</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 13:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : Update:I called and emailed FR...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=13071" rel="nofollow">Austintaco</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 Aug 2023 at 1:27pm<br /><br />Update:<div>I called and emailed FR and received two calls this morning. They emailed me a PDF with instructions on what photos and info I will need to send back to them. I will have to move the trailer out to get the photos needed but the main thing is the axle ID. I sent a photo of that to see if I have the axle that they are saying causes this issue. Interesting is that they also ask about the use of a WDH and what type and brand, so they are tracking other details that might play into the failures. I’ll update when I hear back.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 13:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : I&amp;#039;ll be getting my floor...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10120" rel="nofollow">Tomtreas</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 Aug 2023 at 1:00am<br /><br />I'll be getting my floor replaced next spring, at my own cost.&nbsp; What I ended up having was water damage. Lesson learned on camper purchase.&nbsp; I do have a torsion suspension but apparently before the recall window. I'm hoping to come out of this with something that will last me some time without breaking my bank.&nbsp; I'll have a good investment in it at that point, probably close enough I'da been better off just buying new instead of used. Forest River is working with me on this as well.&nbsp; I went ahead and installed outriggers on mine.&nbsp; My installer lifted the side up with several jacks and 2x4s to just get the riggers in and then welded them to the frame.&nbsp; Then inserted the screws in the end of each to secure that once it was left back down on them.<div><br></div><div>Being a 2016, you are probably not in that program window either but since you didn't have a sneeky water leak that no one could seem to find until too late, your floors are fine.&nbsp; Might be a good idea though to do the outriggers to be on the safe side.&nbsp; They are available from Forest River for under $10 per and I think their instructions call for 4 of them.</div><div><br></div><div>Many happy miles with your new "to you" POD!</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 01:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : Great explanation. So, bottom...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=11402" rel="nofollow">106G</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Aug 2023 at 10:44am<br /><br />Great explanation. So, bottom line..it's a bad design, and on the 190 w/ slide out, it should probably have 2 axles AND a wider frame.<div>Jack</div>]]>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : It&amp;#039;s not the axle.The issue...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Aug 2023 at 10:20am<br /><br />It's not the axle.&nbsp;<br><br><div>The issue is that the body of the 'pod is cantilevered out about a half foot past the support of the frame. The only thing holding up the body is the stiffness of floor. Adding a slide out magnifies the problem. Adding the outriggers adds the support needed.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Separately, there is a similar issue with the axle. The axle support is way inboard and creates torsion on the axles because the wheels are so far out.</div><div><br></div><div>Both of these issues would not exist if the frame had been made wider. However, that would have meant additional support would have to have been made in the middle of the frame to support the floor, and that may have pushed the weight up too far.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2023 10:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Outriggers and over torsioned axle : Thank you, Jack. I will contact...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=13071" rel="nofollow">Austintaco</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 15326<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Aug 2023 at 7:42am<br /><br />Thank you, Jack. I will contact FR and see if they can run my VIN and get more information. Crossing my fingers….I don’t show any signs of issues now.<div><br></div><div>Patrick</div>]]>
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