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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G :  So just wanted to update. We...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9325" rel="nofollow">Blitzkrieg3002</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 May 2021 at 4:12pm<br /><br />So just wanted to update.&nbsp; We did get word back from Lippert.&nbsp; They stated they would not cove the axle under warranty.&nbsp; I told him i'm going to smack it a few times with a hammer and hope for the best!!! lol<div><br></div><div>Got a long 2 week trip coming up with my wife and our two children.&nbsp; I feel pretty confident on the fix for now and am going to go camping!&nbsp; wish us luck and thanks all for the help.</div>]]>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G : Dexter does have a better reputation...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 May 2021 at 3:47pm<br /><br />Dexter does have a better reputation  than Lippert, nothing wrong with changing over.  But then there haven't been near as many Dexter axles used on rpods as Lippert ones so I'm not sure if they would actually do any better. I would be suspicious if any 3500 lb rated axle on anything other than the lightest rpods, considering the negative effect of the inboard frame mounts. ]]>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G :  Originally posted by offgridVery...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9325" rel="nofollow">Blitzkrieg3002</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 May 2021 at 11:37am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br />Very interesting and thanks for the report and the temp fix. I'd worry about putting a lot of side load on the frame with the bottle jack though. <br /><br />I was wondering when we'd get a bent spindle here. When you said your axle hadn't lost it's crown that was a good clue. Unfortunately you can't replace a spindle, they assemble them by compressing and freezing the rubber, insert the spindle, and let it thaw. No way to reverse that. <br /><br />In the end a 3500 lb axle is just too light for a heavily loaded rpod on the kind of roads we have in a lot of the country. If you're having to replace brake assemblies as well as the axle it wouldn't be much more $ to upgrade to the heavier axle. <br /><br /><br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Yea. I may go with a dexter axle if I even replace it. They have replaceable spindles and look like a better design to me.  We didn’t put much pressure on the frame with the jack. Just enough to hold a bit of force on the top of the wheel while we hit the bottom of the wheel with the Hammer. ]]>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G : Blitz, good thing you didn&amp;#039;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 May 2021 at 6:26am<br /><br />Blitz, good thing you didn't tow your Pod across Indiana on I-80. &nbsp;The bend in the spindles would likely have left your tires touching the trailer on the top side. &nbsp;<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley18.gif" border="0" alt="Ouch" title="Ouch" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2021 06:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G : Very interesting and thanks for...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 May 2021 at 6:07am<br /><br />Very interesting and thanks for the report and the temp fix. I'd worry about putting a lot of side load on the frame with the bottle jack though. <br /><br />I was wondering when we'd get a bent spindle here. When you said your axle hadn't lost it's crown that was a good clue. Unfortunately you can't replace a spindle, they assemble them by compressing and freezing the rubber, insert the spindle, and let it thaw. No way to reverse that. <br /><br />In the end a 3500 lb axle is just too light for a heavily loaded rpod on the kind of roads we have in a lot of the country. If you're having to replace brake assemblies as well as the axle it wouldn't be much more $ to upgrade to the heavier axle. <br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2021 06:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G : So, just got done temp fixing...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9325" rel="nofollow">Blitzkrieg3002</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2021 at 7:03pm<br /><br />So, just got done temp fixing the pod. Turns out the axle is okay. We’ll sort of. The problem was a bent spindle. We started off by hooking a dial indicator up and measured about 50 thousands of flex in the edge of the axle jacking up the pod and lowering it back down. Nothing too crazy to us.  We then pulled the tire off and could clearly see the bent spindle. <br /><img src="https://i.ibb.co/bs0KbmG/7248-AB33-8-F85-4-AA2-9-DF4-5534682-CA444.jpg" border="0" /><br />We grabbed an old leftover bent wheel, a BFH, a straight edge to check our bend and progress, some jack stands to brace properly and went to town correcting the bend. <br /><br />I didn’t get a ton of pics but here’s what I got. <br /><br />Before<br /><img src="https://i.ibb.co/wNg3z96/EF1677-FE-B995-4-D5-D-942-D-575-EC015-DD4-B.jpg" border="0" /><br /><br />Putting some force on the wheel<br /><img src="https://i.ibb.co/XskSBPj/A2-BE90-AD-3-B65-44-A5-B0-AB-0-B98207-AD61-D.jpg" border="0" /><br /><br />BFH time<br /><br /><img src="https://i.ibb.co/kB1fqFF/6-AF0-C50-D-3-FC4-4-F97-8449-974580713-D4-E.jpg" border="0" /><br /><img src="https://i.ibb.co/R9mg1N2/3-AF5-C340-9-C52-481-C-B671-77-F3373-F8-EE9.jpg" border="0" /><br /><br />After<br /><img src="https://i.ibb.co/fXbWFxy/EC568-DF2-CBBF-434-A-927-B-07551-D7-A5-B3-F.jpg" border="0" /><br /><br />I had to replace the brake shoes as well.  The drum was so cockeyed it wore the rear brake shoe down to metal. I’ll likely order a new axle, but being so long out with shipping. (Quotes over a month wait) I’m happy with fix for the time being.<br /><br />I really don’t know what I must’ve hit to cause this. Truly puzzling. the amount of force required, one would think I would’ve noticed.  Guess it’s just these California roads.  ]]>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G :  Originally posted by furpodLight-cheap-strong.....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2021 at 5:52pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by furpod</strong></em><br /><br />Light-cheap-strong.. pick two.</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Is there one that's cheap and strong? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 17:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G :   Originally posted by furpodLight-cheap-strong.....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7667" rel="nofollow">Olddawgsrule</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2021 at 4:34pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by furpod</strong></em><br /><br />Light-cheap-strong.. pick two. <br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>LOL Ain't that the truth..&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G : The longer ubolts were helpful...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2021 at 4:23pm<br /><br />The longer ubolts were helpful because it made it easier to get the nuts started. The angle being slightly bent doesn't initially push up tightly against the axle with the first ubolts. It all comes together fine once you get all the ubolts on and start tightening them. I think if you used a floor jack in the center shorter ones would be ok, I was holding the angle up by hand which made it a bit awkward. No need to cut them off if you use the long ones, they're not in the way of anything. You need a long reach socket though.<br /><br />The ubolts I got were fine threaded with heavy washers behind the backing plate. They didn't use or need lock washers. There was a specific torque setting for them IIRC.<br /> <br />]]>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G : Offgrid, Do you think the 5&amp;#034;...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6578" rel="nofollow">SC for Huskers</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2021 at 3:59pm<br /><br /><div>Offgrid, Do you think the 5" U bolts would be long enough, or do you think go like you did with the 6" and cut them off.<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" alt="C&#111;nfused" title="C&#111;nfused" /> &nbsp; Another one please, did you use lock washers or the flat ones that come with the bolt as a kit?</div><div>Thanks<br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 15:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G : Light-cheap-strong.. pick two....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=936" rel="nofollow">furpod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2021 at 2:48pm<br /><br />Light-cheap-strong.. pick two. <br>]]>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G : There isn&amp;#039;t really anything...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2021 at 6:57am<br /><br />There isn't really anything upscale in quality in an rpod. If you want a high quality trailer get something like a Bigfoot. Tons more money and weight.<br /><br />Weight is a key criterion in the design of the rpods. FR sells these things to folks with little 3500 lb tow rated  SUVs (now there is a bad business practice for you, and dangerous). They can't keep the weight and cost low without giving up something, which is strength in this case.<br /><br />I ordered my ubolts. They weren't available at hardware stores. The link is in my write up, good folks to deal with. Be sure to get your dad to camber the angle to mate up with the recambered axle. The proper crown dimension is discussed in the write up, run a string line along the bottom of the axle end to end and measure the gap in the center, with load off the wheels.<br /><br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2021 06:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G : I&amp;#039;m looking forward to hearing...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 May 2021 at 12:48pm<br /><br />I'm looking forward to hearing how it goes and seeing some pictures.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G :  Yea, when i said scam i kinda...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9325" rel="nofollow">Blitzkrieg3002</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 May 2021 at 11:09am<br /><br />Yea, when i said scam i kinda meant that Rpod should be building these things to last more than a handful of years.&nbsp; For the amount of money they charge for these units to overlook something so simple like this leaves more questions out there for me.&nbsp; I always knew travel trailers were designed and built cheap.&nbsp; I thought the Rpod was a step up on quality than most but experiences have leaned me to question that.&nbsp; Some get lucky, but some with heavier pods like mine are having issues.&nbsp; It just seems like a bad design from everyone i've showed my problem.&nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>either way i appreciate everyones help and input.&nbsp; Ive sourced a place to buy some angle iron this afternoon.&nbsp; Going to go find some Square U bolts today as well.&nbsp; Tommorrow i'll bring the trailer down to my dad's shop.&nbsp; He's an experienced semi retired auto body mechanic with years of experience straightening frames from auto accidents.&nbsp; I've learned a ton from him over the years.&nbsp; He's fully confident we can straighten the axle back into alignment and then reinforce it.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I'll take some pictures of the process and post up our progress.&nbsp; Wish us luck and keep on podding!</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2021 11:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G : The narrow body rpods are designed...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 May 2021 at 7:38am<br /><br />The narrow body rpods are designed with thin wall inboard frame rails to allow the composite floor panels to span the width of the trailer and still take the loads if the side walls. That also requires the axle to act as a cantilever. All in the interest of keeping cost and weight as low as possible. In theory.<br /><br />In practice it creates a marginal structure. The worst is really the floor as composite as plywood is not very elastic and is sensitive to water damage, when it fails you can have an irreparable trailer. At least the frame and axle are readily repairable.<br /><br />The underlying problem is FRs design standards. It's not like they just started making heavier trailers with the same structural design without knowing what they were doing. It's not ticket science to determine the load capacity of an rpod. You can do it with basic beam loading formulas, you don't even need an FEA model. <br />None of the above components are designed to handle more than about a 2g bump load. That is insufficient. Everything I've read suggests that heavy trucks (which are subject to lower g forces) should be designed to 2.5-3 g's and passenger cars and trucks to more than 3 g's plus.<br /><br />At 2gs you have to either keep the trailer really light or be really careful never to hit a serious bump, curb, or pot hole. Good luck with that.<br /><br />I wouldn't count on the bigger rpods having higher design standards without analyzing the structure first either.<br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G :   Originally posted by ToyanvilWhat...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9325" rel="nofollow">Blitzkrieg3002</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 May 2021 at 12:16am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Toyanvil</strong></em><br /><br />What is sad is they are still building them this way.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>exactly.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9140" rel="nofollow">Toyanvil</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2021 at 7:47pm<br /><br />What is sad is they are still building them this way.]]>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G : Design flaw I would definitely...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2021 at 7:30pm<br /><br />Design flaw I would definitely agree with. Scam I would not. It seems like just making the frame a little wider so the axle would not have been cantilevered so far would have gone a long ways toward not having this problem. Lippert can always say that the axle was not their fault. Who has not hit rough roads? Who hasn't hit a curb in learning how to maneuver these trailers or going into or out of tight turns into parking lots? The lighter trailers may be able to get away with the overhang, but the heavier models such as our 179 or the 180 or other larger models just are too marginal to begin with.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I think that is likely one of the reasons the 17x and 18x models are disappearing and the 19x and 20x models which, if I understand correctly, do have a wider frame and not as much cantilever on the axle are being sold. Hopefully, the bending axles will not be an issue with them.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9325" rel="nofollow">Blitzkrieg3002</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2021 at 3:06pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by StephenH</strong></em><br /><br />When I had the problem with my axle, it was not covered. I had to purchase the replacement. That axle did have a problem in that the mounting plate for the bake shoes had not been properly welded. That axle was replaced under warranty. I reinforced my axle similar to what has been mentioned. <div></div><div>This is the link to where the axle reinforcement mod starts:</div><div><a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712&PID=124418&title=our-escapod-mods#124418" target="_blank">StephenH's RP179 Axle Reinforcement Modification.</a></div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Awesome write up there StephenH ! I will see what Lippert says and then decide. Pretty annoying that they aren’t covering these.  I have seen some that have been covered so we will see. Amazing seeing how many people that have had the same issue and Rpod themselves never issued any type of recall. Seems like a total design flaw/scam if you ask me. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2021 at 2:18pm<br /><br />When I had the problem with my axle, it was not covered. I had to purchase the replacement. That axle did have a problem in that the mounting plate for the bake shoes had not been properly welded. That axle was replaced under warranty. I reinforced my axle similar to what has been mentioned.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>This is the link to where the axle reinforcement mod starts:</div><div><a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712&amp;PID=124418&amp;title=our-escapod-mods#124418" target="_blank">StephenH's RP179 Axle Reinforcement Modification.</a></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9325" rel="nofollow">Blitzkrieg3002</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2021 at 1:36pm<br /><br />Here’s some pics. <br /><br />Underneath<br /><img src="https://i.ibb.co/tMvH2L6/F49-DC167-F332-4-BB5-8508-C517058311-B5.jpg" border="0" /><br /><br />Driver side<br /><img src="https://i.ibb.co/xDrpPz4/452-E6-B30-F2-AF-410-C-A53-E-16462-DB079-D0.jpg" border="0" /><br /><img src="https://i.ibb.co/hBM2pmw/1-D625-E61-4-A08-416-A-96-A1-6-DA7-FAE47108.jpg" border="0" /><br />Driver Tread wear<br /><img src="https://i.ibb.co/3p2n8Sj/57787-E63-140-E-4663-8-BC3-EA06-C2-F1176-C.jpg" border="0" /><br /><br />Passenger<br /><img src="https://i.ibb.co/sVj4jpV/76-DF914-D-26-A2-478-E-B05-A-3-FF9-C3-A9-B9-F9.jpg" border="0" />]]>
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   <title>Axle Problem 2015 182G :   Originally posted by Blitzkrieg3002 Awesome!...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9140" rel="nofollow">Toyanvil</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2021 at 1:05pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Blitzkrieg3002</strong></em><br /><br />&nbsp;<br><br>Awesome!  You think any old alignment shop will do this? Or need to find one that specializes in trailer alignments? I may be able to do it myself actually at my fathers shop. I think if they won’t cover the new axle I’m going to try this myself.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Look for a shop that does trailers or lager trucks. If you do it yourself, I am not sure how you would set the toe adjustment, mine was an .5 inch out. The shop that did mine put small bends all the way across instead of one big one in the middle. It was about $250.</div><div><img src="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7pFHXWn/0/X2/i-7pFHXWn-X2.jpg" height="960" width="1280" border="0" /><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2021 at 12:23pm<br /><br /><a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12591&KW=axle+reinforcement&PID=120730&title=axle-reinforcement#120730" target="_blank">axle reinforcement</a><br /><br />I will defer to Toyanvil on whether or not you need to remove the axle to straighten it. Mine wasn't bent, I reinforced it preventatively knowing I have a heavy rpod and was taking it on some rough roads. <br /><br />Since as you've described your axle it's bent pretty badly on one side and not at all on the other I would recommend taking it to a shop with experience doing this type if repair.  <br /><br /> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9325" rel="nofollow">Blitzkrieg3002</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2021 at 11:06am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Toyanvil</strong></em><br /><br />I will jump in here. You don't need to remove the axle to have it re-cambered and aligned, the shop will need it on the trailer to align it (just like a car). If I were you, I would just pick up some angle iron and u-bolts and bring them to the alignment shop and have them bend the angle iron with the axle and install the u-bolts. No need to remove the axle or buy anything else and go camping. P.S everything I build is always over kill <img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><div>Here is my trailer being aligned.</div><div><img src="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5CM5bps/1/X2/i-5CM5bps-X2.jpg" height="960" width="787" border="0" /></div><div>Here is the pull wagon I built for camping, just to show my over kill sickness.</div><div><img src="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wcTD9zv/0/X2/i-wcTD9zv-X2.jpg" height="960" width="1280" border="0" /></div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Awesome!  You think any old alignment shop will do this? Or need to find one that specializes in trailer alignments? I may be able to do it myself actually at my fathers shop. I think if they won’t cover the new axle I’m going to try this myself. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9140" rel="nofollow">Toyanvil</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2021 at 10:28am<br /><br />I will jump in here. You don't need to remove the axle to have it re-cambered and aligned, the shop will need it on the trailer to align it (just like a car). If I were you, I would just pick up some angle iron and u-bolts and bring them to the alignment shop and have them bend the&nbsp;angle iron with the axle and install the u-bolts. No need to remove the axle or buy anything else and go camping. P.S everything I build is always over kill&nbsp;<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><div>Here is my trailer being aligned.</div><div><img src="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5CM5bps/1/X2/i-5CM5bps-X2.jpg" height="960" width="787" border="0" /><br></div><div>Here is the pull wagon I built for camping, just to show my over kill sickness.</div><div><img src="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wcTD9zv/0/X2/i-wcTD9zv-X2.jpg" height="960" width="1280" border="0" /><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9325" rel="nofollow">Blitzkrieg3002</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2021 at 10:12am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br />Look for my fix which uses square bend ubolts, no welding. You mount two ubolts at each end of the axle, each at a 45 degree angle.<br><br>A good trailer or frame shop can tell you whether they can recamber the axle for you or not. Steel is a flexible material and will behave elastically under load, returning to it's original shape unless it has exceeded it's yield point and undergone permanent plastic deformation. That is considered a failure in engineering terms and had happened to yours. <br><br>If it does that then the portion of the part that was permanently deformed can get work hardened and might no longer be able to be bent back to it's original shape. The shop will be able to tell by what happens when they try to recamber it.  One way or the other you need to remove the axle.<br><br>I'm not sure you understood my point about widening the frame axle attachment. Have you looked at the tube thickness? It's only 0.1 inch material.  If you widen the attachment you are placing a moment (torque) on the tube because the axle is now trying to twist the tubes outward at the bottom and inward at the top. The tube is already weak at that point (there is at least one case of a bent axle tube there that's been reported on this forum). I wouldn't do anything to compromise it further, you'd just be moving the problem somewhere else. <br><br>Reinforcing or buying a stronger axle and attaching it to the frame tubes without widening the spacing doesn't change the loading on the frame. <br><br>Your least expensive fix is to get your axle recambered if possible, add the angle under it, and reinstall. The next cheapest is going to be getting a new 3500 lb axle and adding an angle under it.  Next is to get a heavier axle, which requires new brake assemblies and wheels. <br><br>As an engineer, I don't trust parts that have already failed (exceeded their yield point) so I would go with option 3 in your case. That upgrades the brakes which are marginal too, mine won't lock up the wheels even at full boost from the brake controller. Up to you which option you select.<br><br><br><br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Good deal.&nbsp; I filled out a warranty claim with Lippert today.&nbsp; Will call them later this afternoon and see what they say.&nbsp; Looks like some have had luck with them replacing the part under warranty while others haven't.&nbsp; Figured i'd try my luck at that first.</div><div><br></div><div>I've spend a good 20-30 minutes searching the forum for your version of the fix offgrid.&nbsp; if you happen to have a link to your post to point me in the right direction that would be awesome.&nbsp; I'll keep searching. i'm sure i'll find it!&nbsp; If i replace the axle I want to reinforce it for sure.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2021 at 7:03am<br /><br />Look for my fix which uses square bend ubolts, no welding. You mount two ubolts at each end of the axle, each at a 45 degree angle.<br /><br />A good trailer or frame shop can tell you whether they can recamber the axle for you or not. Steel is a flexible material and will behave elastically under load, returning to it's original shape unless it has exceeded it's yield point and undergone permanent plastic deformation. That is considered a failure in engineering terms and had happened to yours. <br /><br />If it does that then the portion of the part that was permanently deformed can get work hardened and might no longer be able to be bent back to it's original shape. The shop will be able to tell by what happens when they try to recamber it.  One way or the other you need to remove the axle.<br /><br />I'm not sure you understood my point about widening the frame axle attachment. Have you looked at the tube thickness? It's only 0.1 inch material.  If you widen the attachment you are placing a moment (torque) on the tube because the axle is now trying to twist the tubes outward at the bottom and inward at the top. The tube is already weak at that point (there is at least one case of a bent axle tube there that's been reported on this forum). I wouldn't do anything to compromise it further, you'd just be moving the problem somewhere else. <br /><br />Reinforcing or buying a stronger axle and attaching it to the frame tubes without widening the spacing doesn't change the loading on the frame. <br /><br />Your least expensive fix is to get your axle recambered if possible, add the angle under it, and reinstall. The next cheapest is going to be getting a new 3500 lb axle and adding an angle under it.  Next is to get a heavier axle, which requires new brake assemblies and wheels. <br /><br />As an engineer, I don't trust parts that have already failed (exceeded their yield point) so I would go with option 3 in your case. That upgrades the brakes which are marginal too, mine won't lock up the wheels even at full boost from the brake controller. Up to you which option you select.<br /><br /><br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9325" rel="nofollow">Blitzkrieg3002</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2021 at 10:00pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br />You can't do that fix with your existing axle because you can't weld to a torsion axle, theres rubber in there. Also I don't see how welding brackets could be simpler than just ubolting an angle to the axle.<br><br>The other problem with it is that it will also place a moment (torque) on the frame. The frame at the axle attachment is the next weakest link in the chain after the axle.<br><br>Better to just reinforce the cantilevered axle. That places no new stresses on the frame and is easy to analyze so you know accurately what additional capacity you have in the axle tube afterwards. If you do a search you will find my calcs back when I ran the numbers a couple years ago.<br><br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Makes sense,&nbsp; I read StephenH his fix in his mods.&nbsp; u bolting a piece of angle to the axle.&nbsp; You guys think it will work with my existing axle or i'd have to order a new one?&nbsp; if i order a brand new axle i'm going to do the widened angle iron mounting fix in the video above.&nbsp; if i can get away with just adding angle to my axle and you think it will work i'll give that a go.&nbsp; seems simple and cheap.&nbsp; I'll post some pix of my axle in a bit.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2021 at 8:06pm<br /><br />You can't do that fix with your existing axle because you can't weld to a torsion axle, theres rubber in there. Also I don't see how welding brackets could be simpler than just ubolting an angle to the axle.<br /><br />The other problem with it is that it will also place a moment (torque) on the frame. The frame at the axle attachment is the next weakest link in the chain after the axle.<br /><br />Better to just reinforce the cantilevered axle. That places no new stresses on the frame and is easy to analyze so you know accurately what additional capacity you have in the axle tube afterwards. If you do a search you will find my calcs back when I ran the numbers a couple years ago.<br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9325" rel="nofollow">Blitzkrieg3002</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14611<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2021 at 7:22pm<br /><br />what are your guys thoughts on this as a fix.&nbsp;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtXRGOadTKU&amp;t=130s<div><br></div><div>i've ran it by my buddy who's a welder fabricator as well as the other fixes posted and he seems to think this is the most simple and easy fix.&nbsp; he also thinks we should do this fix with my existing axle and weld new wider mounting brackets onto my existing axle.&nbsp; &nbsp;He thinks widening the stance on the existing axle will fix the flex that is happening to cause the wheel to sag.&nbsp; i guess worst case scenario if it didn't solve it with my existing axle i could then re enforce with the piece of angle the full length of the axle or order a new axle with the widened frame mounts.</div>]]>
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