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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : There is logic behind the rules...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 Nov 2020 at 11:19am<br /><br />There is logic behind the rules in the NEC. Lots of smart people from many professions have collaborated to develop it over many many years, and it has avoided countless fires and saved countless lives. You can do whatever you want of course but just know that in doing so you are assuming you know better than all those experts.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>In this case the logic is that by placing all disconnects, switches, fuses, and circuit breakers in the ungrounded (positive) conductor you can count on the circuits being dead when those devices are open. If you put some disconnects one line and some in the other it is very easy to inadvertently get current flow when you don't expect it.</div><div><br></div><div>There is nothing "iffy" about the applicability of the NEC to RV's because of jurisdictional differences. The Code gets updated every 3 years and then has to be adopted by each authority having jurisdiction. So you can find one AHJ on one cycle and another on a newer one.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>But, keeping the neutral connected and grounded and switching the hot conductor has been in the Code from before anyone on this forum was born, it is fundamental to electrical safety strategy in North America. The only exceptions are some industrial applications where the equipment won't work properly unless its on a floating circuit, and then there has to be special ground fault detection equipment in place. So, no matter what jurisdiction you are in and what code cycle you are on, you are non compliant if you are switching the grounded (negative) conductor.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : Thanks OG, I&amp;#039;m happy the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 Nov 2020 at 10:18am<br /><br />Thanks OG, I'm happy the way I do things.  The NEC is a fine "code", very iffy on RVs and jurisdiction is the responsibility of local authority, who can change or delete NEC guidelines.  Basically I put the disconnect where it is most convenient and I don't have a preference.]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : No, disconnects, fuses, and circuit...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 Nov 2020 at 9:20am<br /><br />No, disconnects, fuses, and circuit breakers should always go on the ungrounded conductors of any electrical system, never on the neutral (grounded) conductors. For 12Vdc systems that means the positive conductor get the fuses and disconnects. That is an National Electric Code requirement, which does apply to RVs. The reason is that if you disconnect the negative at the battery the whole negative side of the 12v circuit can be hot afterwards.  Basically, you should wire up 12Vac systems just as you would a 120Vac system. <br /><br />I think the confusion comes from the recommendation to disconnect the negative first when replacing or otherwise maintaining a battery. That is not inconsistent, once you lift the battery negative conductor you should also remove the positive. ]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : Thanks! </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10237" rel="nofollow">BMJ</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 Nov 2020 at 8:12am<br /><br />Thanks!]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : On RVs I use the negative.  On...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 Nov 2020 at 7:37am<br /><br />On RVs I use the negative.  On motorized vehicles I will use either, the Old NHRA rules said it had to be on positive side.  Half a dozen of one and 6 of the other.]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power :   I would put it on the positive...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8731" rel="nofollow">JR</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 Nov 2020 at 7:17am<br /><br />I would put it on the positive side of the battery and remember to get a switch large enough to handle the amperage you are using (minimum would be 30 amps).]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : Thanks..  put a disconnect switch...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10237" rel="nofollow">BMJ</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 Oct 2020 at 11:20am<br /><br />Thanks..  put a disconnect switch on the negative battery terminal. Didn’t even think of the other transient pulls mentioned...thanks!]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2020 11:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : There are many things that have...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8731" rel="nofollow">JR</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 Oct 2020 at 10:55am<br /><br />There are many things that have a parasitic draw like: the CO2 alarm, the antenna booster (if not turned off), the tank level indicators, the radio, and tv. Also the brake break away switch if it tripped will drain the battery quickly.&nbsp; Your newly installed main battery cut off will shut all these down if you installed it up front by the battery (ies).<div><br></div><div>Hope this helps.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2020 10:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : Not sure why I have a battery...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10237" rel="nofollow">BMJ</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 Oct 2020 at 10:18am<br /><br />Not sure why I have a battery drain with everything off...I just put main battery cut off... any other insights most appreciated ]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : So it&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s a winegard 7542...somewhere...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9829" rel="nofollow">Buffalohunter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 Aug 2020 at 7:16pm<br /><br />So it’s a winegard 7542...somewhere around $30...still searching for a cheaper price, but is it really worth it in the long run? This is a 2020 and they couldn’t even put in a switch that works...at least for 2 years? &nbsp;Should have bought the extended warranty? Sold used...only 2 weeks off the lot then returned for a larger unit. Oh well the pod still serves its purpose and is fun. For now the light is out.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : Mjlrpod...you got it right thanks...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9829" rel="nofollow">Buffalohunter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 Aug 2020 at 3:44pm<br /><br />Mjlrpod...you got it right thanks mucho...I pulled the plate from the wall then did as you said. The little red light goes off and on but the tv stays the same...no effect on the channel. Then I removed the grey cable and no tv action no channel and the red light on the booster was out. So the cable for the tv runs in the overhead across the bathroom to the front bed wall area. At least I solved that problem. So now I need to replace satellite/tv switch. Any thoughts...thanks so much for the help👍👍]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : Maybe on your model, the light...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6126" rel="nofollow">mjlrpod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 Aug 2020 at 12:47pm<br /><br />Maybe on your model, the light should stay on? Can't really think of anything else.&nbsp;<div><br></div>]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : Hey mjlrpod, that is a good suggestion,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8529" rel="nofollow">tcj</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 Aug 2020 at 12:32pm<br /><br />Hey mjlrpod, that is a good suggestion, thanks.&nbsp; I went out and did the test.&nbsp; The TV gets good reception with the booster switch on but lost the picture with the switch off.&nbsp; So, the switch is working.]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : Just looking at the absolutely...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6126" rel="nofollow">mjlrpod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 Aug 2020 at 9:07am<br /><br />Just looking at the absolutely crappy crimp job they did, and the stuff all over the circuit board, there's alot of opportunity for things to be messed up. Something is possibly disabling the switch, and keeping current supplying the booster. I would say, turn on the t.v. and get a channel that works on. Then turn off the booster button. The t.v. should lose the picture when it's off. If it keeps playing, your switch is not working for some reason.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : Thanks for the great pictures...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9829" rel="nofollow">Buffalohunter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Aug 2020 at 6:54pm<br /><br />Thanks for the great pictures and information. The 189 is a different animal in that the cable leaves the tv and disappears into a utility box mounted just above the set and attached to the ceiling. I do have the satellite/tv switch plate. However it is located over the bed in the forward area. The tv is aft as you first walk in the door. There is no tv in the forward bed area...nothing hooked up the that switch plate. If I push that button the light comes on and off but does not affect the tv booster box on the roof. The &nbsp;utility box or mystery box above the tv by the door has other connections...solar/battery monitor, switch plate for the slide/awning/porch/interior lights and the furrion radio/ speaker selection switch. It is closed off, no access plate...just a hole in the bottom where the cable and the red/yellow/white input connections for the tv. I would send a picture but I don’t know how to size it down. Fortunately I have solar panels to keep the batteries charged. So that is my situation. The booster box is always on and probably will be until I tear into this mystery box to get to...the rest of the story. Thanks for all you suggestions...maybe another 189er will read this and offer something up.]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power :     Originally posted by BuffalohunterDsbryant...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8529" rel="nofollow">tcj</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Aug 2020 at 9:33pm<br /><br /><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Buffalohunter</strong></em><br /><br />Dsbryant interesting observation as I too have the little red light on the tv booster on the roof of my pod...a 2020 189. Mjlrpod’s solution sounds so easy for your pod and I do hope it works. Maybe with the 189 they built in frustration as I have no little red light or little switch anywhere that I can find that would do the trick. All the wires from my tv run up and disappear in a ceiling mounted box of mystery. Like you say probably not drawing a whole lot of power. Still it bugs me to see the light and not be able to turn it off. Did you turn yours off...I hope you did...still worrying about it here</td></tr></table> <br></div><div><br></div><div>Buffalo, my Rpod is a 2018 180.&nbsp; I have the same situation with wires disappearing into a box of mystery.&nbsp; I did find the push on/off button on the face plate that turns on the red light on the face plate but it does not turn off the red light on the roof antenna when in the off position.</div><div><br></div><div>I took the face plate off to see what's in that mystery box...see photos.&nbsp; The only way I could get the roof light to turn off was to disconnect the gray coax cable inside the mystery box.&nbsp; I connected the gray coax to the third unused coax fitting in the photo and the roof light would not turn on with the push button in the on position.&nbsp; I am thinking about putting a on/off switch on the outside of the mystery box to turn off the power to the face plate switch.&nbsp; I suspect it is the red/black pair.&nbsp; I'll have to do some wire tracing and disconnect the battery before I cut them to install a switch though.</div><div><br></div><div>Wires disappearing into the mystery box.&nbsp; Push switch in off position.<br></div><div><img src="https://i.imgur.com/RhYwiHg.jpg" border="0" /></div><div><br></div><div>Push switch in the on position.<br></div><div><img src="https://i.imgur.com/UkTpOmY.jpg" border="0" /></div><div><br></div><div>Back of face plate.&nbsp; Red coax is attached to "Satellite" fitting on face plate.&nbsp; Black and gray coaxes attached to circuit board on "TV" coax fitting. <br></div><div><img src="https://i.imgur.com/4Ai9hry.jpg" border="0" /></div><div><br></div><div>Gray coax disconnected turns off the red light on the roof antenna.</div><div><img src="https://i.imgur.com/Du5dfuj.jpg" border="0" /><br></div>]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : buffalohunter - I verified that...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10615" rel="nofollow">DSBryant</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Aug 2020 at 8:26pm<br /><br />buffalohunter - I verified that toggling that tiny little button "Off" certainly did turn off the antenna booster on the roof.&nbsp;<div>The button is integrated into a cover plate roughly the size of a standard household outlet cover.&nbsp; It has a bright red LED that indicates the booster is on.&nbsp; Right next to the bright LED is the aforementioned push button.&nbsp; Toggle it off, and the booster on the roof and the LED goes out.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Photo might help a bit.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div>If yours disappears into the ceiling . . .&nbsp; then I wouldn't have any suggestions, as I definitely am a noob to the RV thing.&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="uploads/10615/Booster%20Toggle.jpg" height="480" width="640" border="0" /></div>]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : Dsbryant interesting observation...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9829" rel="nofollow">Buffalohunter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Aug 2020 at 5:58pm<br /><br />Dsbryant interesting observation as I too have the little red light on the tv booster on the roof of my pod...a 2020 189. Mjlrpod’s solution sounds so easy for your pod and I do hope it works. Maybe with the 189 they built in frustration as I have no little red light or little switch anywhere that I can find that would do the trick. All the wires from my tv run up and disappear in a ceiling mounted box of mystery. Like you say probably not drawing a whole lot of power. Still it bugs me to see the light and not be able to turn it off. Did you turn yours off...I hope you did...still worrying about it here]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : mjirpod - spot on! It&amp;#039;s a...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10615" rel="nofollow">DSBryant</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Aug 2020 at 4:18pm<br /><br />mjirpod - spot on!&nbsp; It's a very small pushbutton that during the initial walkthrough, the salesman probably pointed out, but with so many other things to point out . . . it got lost in the shuffle.<div><br></div><div>It probably would place a very minimal drain on my batteries, but watt the heck, I'm currently very amped up that I can turn it off and not worry about it.&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" /></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div>]]>
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   <title>Power Light while on DC power : On my 195, it is on when the antennea...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6126" rel="nofollow">mjlrpod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Aug 2020 at 12:53pm<br /><br />On my 195, it is on when the antennea booster is turned on. If you look behind your t.v., you will probably see a small red light. That is the booster. Push the tiny button beside it and the red light should go out. The outside roof light should now be off also.&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=10615" rel="nofollow">DSBryant</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13889<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Aug 2020 at 12:13pm<br /><br />Just bought a new 2020 rPod 196.&nbsp; &nbsp;While the trailer was connected to DC only, we noticed on the roof of the camper is a device with two antenna coming out of it - facing backwards.&nbsp; I assume it is for our TV over-the-air reception?&nbsp; It has a small red LED light indicating it is powered on.&nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Any time I see a light like that, it indicates that some device is active and is potentially drawing power from my batteries.&nbsp; I'd like to see if there's a way to turn off that antenna device completely and any associated power drain it might be responsible for.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Any ideas?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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