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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open :   Originally posted by OlddawgsruleI&amp;#039;ll...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 Apr 2020 at 5:35pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Olddawgsrule</strong></em><br /><br />I'll play &gt;April 23rd. Trying to optimistic and believe some of what I'm hearing. Speaking new cases.<div><br></div><div>I do agree, we are probably over that mark now and don't know it.</div><div><br></div><div>Stay safe you all.&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Well, there is your 1 million official US cases, and you were only off by 4 days. Congrats (I guess)?</div><div><br></div><div>What's shocking to me is that if you look at NY state as if it was a country, it has had way more Coronavirus deaths per capita than any country in the world, only beaten by San Marino, which a microstate with only 34K ppl. NY has actually had twice as many deaths per capita as any significant country except Belgium, and its getting close to double Belgium too. Looking at the US data the death rate has flattened out but I'm not seeing any real sign that things are tapering off yet.</div>]]>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open : Looks like you can survive with...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 Apr 2020 at 11:24am<br /><br /><div>Looks like you can survive with an spO2 in the 50's for a short period.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#222222" face="Roboto, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Acceptable in healthy person &gt; 92%</span></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="Roboto, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Acceptable in COPD patient &gt; 88%</span></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="Roboto, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Cognitive problems, time to go to hospital &lt; 85%</span></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="Roboto, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Organ damage occurs over time &lt; 80%</span></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="Roboto, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Severe mental impairment or unconsciousness&nbsp;&lt; 75%</span></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="Roboto, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Death occurs over time&lt; 65%</span></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="Roboto, arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Rapid death &lt; 55%</span></font></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2020 11:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open :   Originally posted by offgridI...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 Apr 2020 at 9:55am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br />I would have thought that at an spO2 of 50% you would be in a coma or worse.&nbsp;</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>IANAD, nor do I play one on TV. I was just recalling what I heard on the news by someone described as a doctor familiar with the issue. In any case, we can infer that oxygen levels in the blood are pretty important, and whatever yours is, you should know what the acceptable range is.</div>]]>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open : I would have thought that at an...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Apr 2020 at 9:13pm<br /><br />I would have thought that at an spO2 of 50% you would be in a coma or worse. My dad was at around the high 60's when I got him to the hospital during his worst episode and the ER doc said he was within minutes of death, even though he wasn't complaining about having trouble breathing. The O's popped him right up into the 90's but then he became completely disoriented and started showing arrhythmia due to the Co2 build up. High O2 levels reduce your breathing rate&nbsp; because its too easy to get your O's,&nbsp; hence the Co2 buildup. They put him on a bipap machine (basically a cpap with a lower pressure level when exhaling) and reduced his O2 levels so he took deeper breaths and that helped a lot.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>There is an interesting study now that ventilators might be getting overused on elderly Covid patients and cause more harm than good. Better to leave them on a lower O2 level on just a nasal cannula or use a bipap.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/21/cor&#111;navirus-analysis-recommends-less-reliance-&#111;n-ventilators/" target="_blank">https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/21/coronavirus-analysis-recommends-less-reliance-on-ventilators/</a></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 21:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open : I know someone who has SARS-CoV-2...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Apr 2020 at 7:24pm<br /><br />I know someone who has SARS-CoV-2 and has been fighting it for nearly a month. &nbsp;The hospital gave her an oximeter to use at home on her first trip to the ER. &nbsp;It is a very important tool in assessing the condition of a home bound patient and likely will save some lives. &nbsp;By the time one's O2 is dangerously low, you are not acting rationally enough to know you're in trouble and need to call for help. &nbsp;Thankfully, the person I know is slowly recovering. &nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 19:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open : COPD is tough. We watched the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Apr 2020 at 3:52pm<br /><br />COPD is tough. We watched the blurb last night on the news about the oximeter. The physician they interviewed about it explained that many people don't start to notice they are in trouble until their sp02 is below 50% at which point they're about to go over a cliff.<div><br></div><div>It could also be helpful if you think you might be getting COVID-19.</div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 15:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open : Been using an oximeter for my...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Apr 2020 at 12:11pm<br /><br />Been using an oximeter for my dad with COPD for several years, and its a great early warning system for pneumonia. He typically has one or two pneumonia episodes a year. His spO2 will normally sit around 90% but will drop to the low 80's when he's getting pneumonia. even if he doesn't feel that sick. His pulmonologist doesn't want him over 90% or so because if its too high he doesn't breathe hard enough to expel sufficient CO2, which causes disorientation and can also kill you via coma and arrhythmia. When you are in respiratory failure too high O2 saturation can be as bad as too low.&nbsp; We don't keep him on O2 for that reason although I have a couple bottles of aviation O's on hand for emergencies, so I can give him a hit or two on the way to the ER.&nbsp; Speaking of altitude hypoxia your spO2 level will go down by around 1% per 1000 ft until you acclimate. so you must me well acclimated to Colorado.]]>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open :  I did an orally administered...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9925" rel="nofollow">Pod_Geek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Apr 2020 at 11:05am<br /><br />I did an orally administered Sazerac last night.&nbsp; This morning I got a 98 reading on my new pulse oximiter, so I'm good so far.<div id="UMS_TOOLTIP" style=": ; cursor: pointer; : 2147483647; : transparent; top: -100000px; left: -100000px;"></div><div><br></div><div>FYI on the oximiter if you haven't heard the latest...</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opini&#111;n/cor&#111;navirus-testing-pneum&#111;nia.html" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opinion/coronavirus-testing-pneumonia.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/well/live/cor&#111;navirus-pulse-oximeter-oxygen.html" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/well/live/coronavirus-pulse-oximeter-oxygen.html</a></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 11:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open : Tequila Herradura Reposado is...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Apr 2020 at 10:30am<br /><br />Tequila Herradura Reposado is much preferable to a Jack Daniels drip; much smoother flavor. &nbsp;Poitín would be preferable, but it's hard to come by here in the States. &nbsp;<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley24.gif" border="0" alt="Ermm" title="Ermm" />]]>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open : &amp;#039;course it worked, I was...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Apr 2020 at 10:29am<br /><br />'course it worked, I was being tongue in cheek too...<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0" alt="T&#111;ngue" title="T&#111;ngue" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open :   Originally posted by offgridNot...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Apr 2020 at 10:07am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br />Not sure about the potential negative effects of&nbsp;IV administration of the organics in Jack Daniels so lab grade ethanol might be safer. But only 0.4% is the 50% lethal blood alcohol level in humans and the CDC says hand sanitizer has to be 60% alcohol to effectively kill Sars-Cov-2, so you'd need 150x the lethal dose to kill the virus. Just drink the Jack and enjoy the flavor. Well before you get to the lethal dose you won't be worrying about Covid anyhow.&nbsp;</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>I was being sarcastic. Sorry it didn't work.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 10:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open : Not sure about the potential negative...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Apr 2020 at 9:54am<br /><br />Not sure about the potential negative effects of&nbsp;IV administration of the organics in Jack Daniels so lab grade ethanol might be safer. But only 0.4% is the 50% lethal blood alcohol level in humans and the CDC says hand sanitizer has to be 60% alcohol to effectively kill Sars-Cov-2, so you'd need 150x the lethal dose to kill the virus. Just drink the Jack and enjoy the flavor. Well before you get to the lethal dose you won't be worrying about Covid anyhow.&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 09:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open :   Originally posted by lostagainThough...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Apr 2020 at 9:38am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by lostagain</strong></em><br /><br />Though testing is incredibly important in trying to get a handle on this pandemic, it is important to keep in mind that the testing for an acute infection is not terribly reliable. &nbsp;At Kaiser in CA they are finding that 20% of the tests are showing false negatives. &nbsp;And false negatives are especially dangerous because if people rely on the testing, those individuals who tested with a false negative, could be out in the general population spreading the infection.&nbsp;</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>There has got to be a dozen different "tests" around now, and not all of them are reliable. The quick, 5-minute Abbot test can give varying results; especially if the sample is not large enough. The original CDC test was pretty much unusable because two of the three production labs self-contaminated the test kits. The whole testing thing in the US is a pure fiasco, SNAFU, pick the acronym of your choice.</div><div><br></div><div>WRT your clorox drip. I'm going to a 100-proof Jack Daniels drip; it should be a bit more enjoyable.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 09:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open :  Pod_Geek, I fully agree with...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Apr 2020 at 3:52pm<br /><br />Pod_Geek, I fully agree with you. &nbsp;The earlier we could have known about this dreadful disease the better. &nbsp;I know someone in the Bay Area who has has it, as confirmed by her treating doctors at Kaiser, yet she's had 2 negative virus infection tests; the ones with the 20% false negative problem. &nbsp;Thankfully, she finally seems to be on the mend after almost 4 weeks of symptoms and 2 trips to ER. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Why bother with an injection, I've set up an IV drip to a gallon of Clorox. &nbsp;It's a sustained attack. &nbsp;Next we'll hear that swallowing lye is good for heartburn.</div>]]>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open :   Originally posted by Pod_GeekGotta...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Apr 2020 at 2:44pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Pod_Geek</strong></em><br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;<div>Gotta go.&nbsp; Need to get a bleach injection to stave this thing off.</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>That would almost certainly assure you didn't get Covid. Dead bodies don't get around much so are pretty good at social distancing.&nbsp;<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div>]]>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open :     Originally posted by lostagain...Antibody...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9925" rel="nofollow">Pod_Geek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Apr 2020 at 1:38pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by lostagain</strong></em><br /><br />...Antibody tests are also useful, but they are retrospective, helping us under stand who was infected at one point or another, but they don't necessarily tell us who is actively infected and contagious. &nbsp;The are very useful in helping us understand how deeply the SARS-CoV-2 infection has penetrated the general population and what measures are needed to limit it's spread.<br></td></tr></table><div id="UMS_TOOLTIP" style=": ; cursor: pointer; : 2147483647; : transparent; top: -100000px; left: -100000px;"></div><div><br></div><div>Right, but if this thing was spreading in late November that would be an important bit of information that would upend the timeline and help the scientific community better understand the history of this virus.</div><div><br></div><div>Right now I'd put a C-note on her having had the virus in early December based on everything I know about it...</div><div><br></div><div><span style="color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-family: nyt-imperial, georgia, &quot;times new roman&quot;, times, serif;"><font size="2"><i>Gov. Gavin Newsom of California said on Wednesday that there could be “subsequent announcements” as investigations across the state further examine the early origins of the virus. He said investigators are looking at coroner and autopsy reports going back to December in some counties.</i></font></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-family: nyt-imperial, georgia, &quot;times new roman&quot;, times, serif;"><font size="2"><i><br></i></font></span></div><div><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/santa-clara-county-cor&#111;navirus-death.html" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/santa-clara-county-coronavirus-death.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Gotta go.&nbsp; Need to get a bleach injection to stave this thing off.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Apr 2020 at 10:58am<br /><br />Though testing is incredibly important in trying to get a handle on this pandemic, it is important to keep in mind that the testing for an acute infection is not terribly reliable. &nbsp;At Kaiser in CA they are finding that 20% of the tests are showing false negatives. &nbsp;And false negatives are especially dangerous because if people rely on the testing, those individuals who tested with a false negative, could be out in the general population spreading the infection.<div><br></div><div>Antibody tests are also useful, but they are retrospective, helping us under stand who was infected at one point or another, but they don't necessarily tell us who is actively infected and contagious. &nbsp;The are very useful in helping us understand how deeply the SARS-CoV-2 infection has penetrated the general population and what measures are needed to limit it's spread.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9925" rel="nofollow">Pod_Geek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Apr 2020 at 10:00am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br />Your friend should try to get an antibody test....</td></tr></table><div id="UMS_TOOLTIP" style=": ; cursor: pointer; : 2147483647; : transparent; top: -100000px; left: -100000px;"></div><div><br></div><div>I totally agree, and have been commenting to her about needing to get an antibody test at some point.&nbsp; Everything that she describes going through sounds like what Chris Cuomo (and others) have described (fever, chills, waking up soaked in sweat, shortness of breath, etc.), and the most interesting aspect was her doc being perplexed by her symptoms and the very unusual images of her lungs.</div><div><br></div><div>She was so smart to sleep alone and tell her husband not to get near her...that's how sick and scared she was of infecting him.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Apr 2020 at 4:41pm<br /><br />Your friend should try to get an antibody test.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I'm sure we'll find many more cases where ppl died of this but weren't counted because they died at home or were never tested.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The good news looking at places like S Korea, Hong Kong, and Singapore is that aggressive testing and contact tracing using smartphone technology can work quite well and keep ppl relatively safe while allowing life to continue, but so far we haven't taken the steps to do that effectively here or in much of Europe because of privacy concerns.&nbsp;<br><div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div>]]>
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   <title>Urgent Petition To Keep RV Campgrounds Open :   Originally posted by GlueGuy...There...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9925" rel="nofollow">Pod_Geek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Apr 2020 at 3:28pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by GlueGuy</strong></em><br /><br />...There is also the freshly uncovered evidence that the outbreak had started in Santa Clara about 3 weeks prior to earlier estimates.<br></td></tr></table><div id="UMS_TOOLTIP" style=": ; cursor: pointer; : 2147483647; : transparent; top: -100000px; left: -100000px;"></div><div><br></div><div><span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: &quot;Tiempos Text Regular&quot;, &quot;system serif&quot;; -webkit-text-stroke: 0.45px rgba0, 0, 0, 0.1;"><i style=""><font size="3">A person who died at home in Santa Clara County on Feb. 6 was infected with the coronavirus at the time of death, a stunning discovery that makes that individual the first recorded COVID-19 fatality in the United States, according to autopsy results released by public health officials late Tuesday....</font></i></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: &quot;Tiempos Text Regular&quot;, &quot;system serif&quot;; font-size: 18px; -webkit-text-stroke: 0.45px rgba0, 0, 0, 0.1;"><i><br></i></span></div><div><a href="https://www.sfchr&#111;nicle.com/health/article/First-known-U-S-cor&#111;navirus-death-occurred-&#111;n-15217316.php" target="_blank">https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/First-known-U-S-coronavirus-death-occurred-on-15217316.php</a></div><div><br></div><div>So...might it have been spreading as early as late December?</div><div><br></div><div>Anecdotally I have a friend who was in CA (went to Disneyland and all that) in early December and got deathly ill after returning to the Denver area a week or 10 days later.&nbsp; Fever, chills, shortness of breath...all of it.&nbsp; Her doc said she had no idea what it was, and her lungs looked very odd on a CAT scan or X-Ray (not sure which).&nbsp; I think we may discover that this thing has been with us for longer than we currently think.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Apr 2020 at 3:03pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Olddawgsrule</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Olddawgsrule</strong></em><br /><br />I'll play &gt;April 23rd. Trying to optimistic and believe some of what I'm hearing. Speaking new cases.<div><br></div><div>I do agree, we are probably over that mark now and don't know it.</div><div><br></div><div>Stay safe you all.</td></tr></table></div><div>850K or so official US cases as of today so you're about 150K short. An antibody study in NY resulted in an estimate of 2.7 million cases in that state alone or about 10x what is officially being reported. If that held nationwide it would be about 8 million infections in the US and about a half percent fatality rate so far.</td></tr></table></div><div>I do agree the infected count is low, I personally know 6 with symptoms and told they we're not sick enough for testing. That was as sick as they got, 5 are through it, one is almost through. The death count is also off due to the way NY (others?) are now counting. As said before, we'll probably not know the truth in my lifetime...</td></tr></table></div><div>Except that same study had quite different results WITHIN NYC versus the rest of the state. IIRC inside NYC the people with antibodies were ~~ 1:5. Outside it was more like 1:7.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>What I take from the above is that the population density has a huge impact on the transmissibility of this thing.</div><div><br></div><div>There is also the freshly uncovered evidence that the outbreak had started in Santa Clara about 3 weeks prior to earlier estimates.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7667" rel="nofollow">Olddawgsrule</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Apr 2020 at 12:48pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Olddawgsrule</strong></em><br /><br />I'll play &gt;April 23rd. Trying to optimistic and believe some of what I'm hearing. Speaking new cases.<div><br></div><div>I do agree, we are probably over that mark now and don't know it.</div><div><br></div><div>Stay safe you all.&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>850K or so official US cases as of today so you're about 150K short. An antibody study in NY resulted in an estimate of 2.7 million cases in that state alone or about 10x what is officially being reported. If that held nationwide it would be about 8 million infections in the US and about a half percent fatality rate so far.&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>I do agree the infected count is low, I personally know 6 with symptoms and told they we're not sick enough for testing. That was as sick as they got, 5 are through it, one is almost through. The death count is also off due to the way NY (others?) are now counting. As said before, we'll probably not know the truth in my lifetime...</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Apr 2020 at 11:34am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Olddawgsrule</strong></em><br /><br />I'll play &gt;April 23rd. Trying to optimistic and believe some of what I'm hearing. Speaking new cases.<div><br></div><div>I do agree, we are probably over that mark now and don't know it.</div><div><br></div><div>Stay safe you all.&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>850K or so official US cases as of today so you're about 150K short. An antibody study in NY resulted in an estimate of 2.7 million cases in that state alone or about 10x what is officially being reported. If that held nationwide it would be about 8 million infections in the US and about a half percent fatality rate so far.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1146" rel="nofollow">jato</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Apr 2020 at 11:08am<br /><br />Returning to the OP's first post on page 1 there is good news, at least for the moment.&nbsp; Just checked with a campground where we continue to plan a R-Pod roundup in Traverse City, MI. &nbsp; They still plan on opening mid-May so that our gathering in mid-June is still a go.&nbsp; Not sure about state/forest campgrounds, that is still on hold at this point.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Apr 2020 at 2:47pm<br /><br />It's much less costly to pee Costco's Kirkland brand of multi-vitamins. &nbsp;I get confused in the morning when I'm trying to monitor my hydration and realize later in the day that I am far better hydrated than I thought several hours earlier.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1653" rel="nofollow">Tars Tarkas</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Apr 2020 at 1:35pm<br /><br /><div>I take a Centrum Silver pill every day. (No connection whatsoever with Collidal Silver.)&nbsp; I don't much think it does a lot of good.&nbsp; My doctor says it just makes my pee more expensive.&nbsp; I take it out of habit and I guess because I hope it helps more than it hurts.&nbsp; Not sure Collidal Silver is much different.&nbsp; Although I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like to permanently turn blue-grey. <br></div><div><br></div><div>There are still an enormous number of snaie-oil sales people out there, a lot of them getting rich.</div><div><br></div><div>TT<br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Apr 2020 at 12:50pm<br /><br />Be careful with popular remedies that have not been vetted in real scientific studies. &nbsp;With all due respect to Gwyneth Paltrow, Goop is an unproven remedy, for example. &nbsp;There is no limit to the remedies people advance that are unproven and often very expensive. &nbsp;The supplement industry has opposed real investigations of their products in double blind studies and their industry is a $130B money maker.<div><br></div><div>Read this about colloidal silver before you self administer: <a href="http:// www.healthline.com/nutriti&#111;n/colloidal-silver#what-is-it" target="_blank">&nbsp;https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/colloidal-silver#what-is-it</a></div><div><br></div><div>As for vaccinations, yes, there is some risk, but it is so vastly outweighed by the benefits that it is hardly even a topic of legitimate discussion. &nbsp;Look, for example, at the measles crisis we are having right now. &nbsp;And most of the antivaxers have never seen the consequences of polio. &nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Apr 2020 at 7:23am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by crazycoyote</strong></em><br /><br />After reading all this info, this virus is sure&nbsp; a nasty one. I deal with it in a different way. Get on your computer and Google ( colodial silver). I been taking it for 15 years, a tablespoon every morning, carry a bottle with a sprayer on top where I go, spray my face and hands when ever I think I need it, and anything else that could carry virus&nbsp; on it. I'm 83 years old, went thru many virus's in my time, knock on wood, never caught it yet. I also never get a flue shot, of course the VA doesn't approve. I make my own with 3 -9 volt batterys and 2 solid silver wires, real cheap to make, that's where my Doctors don't like to hear, they tell you all the pills to get to cure you, and make the big Bucks. Bring it up on the internet, very interesting to read what the Medical People don't want you to know. It may help you, I tried 15 years ago, still here to travel in my Pod, this summer. Good Luck. Something to learn about.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>You might have a great next stage career ahead as a member of the Blue Man Group.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZQdWd_vdoM" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZQdWd_vdoM</a></div><div><br></div><div>Just kidding, if you feel that you have fully educated yourself regarding the risks/benefits of collodial silver that's certainly your personal choice. On behalf of the rest of your fellow citizens I would hope you are also following the social distancing guidelines that the CDC has laid out for us. We all need to do our part together to get through this.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6458" rel="nofollow">crazycoyote</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 Apr 2020 at 10:36pm<br /><br />After reading all this info, this virus is sure&nbsp; a nasty one. I deal with it in a different way. Get on your computer and Google ( colodial silver). I been taking it for 15 years, a tablespoon every morning, carry a bottle with a sprayer on top where I go, spray my face and hands when ever I think I need it, and anything else that could carry virus&nbsp; on it. I'm 83 years old, went thru many virus's in my time, knock on wood, never caught it yet. I also never get a flue shot, of course the VA doesn't approve. I make my own with 3 -9 volt batterys and 2 solid silver wires, real cheap to make, that's where my Doctors don't like to hear, they tell you all the pills to get to cure you, and make the big Bucks. Bring it up on the internet, very interesting to read what the Medical People don't want you to know. It may help you, I tried 15 years ago, still here to travel in my Pod, this summer. Good Luck. Something to learn about.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7667" rel="nofollow">Olddawgsrule</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13443<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Apr 2020 at 7:16am<br /><br />I'll play &gt;April 23rd. Trying to optimistic and believe some of what I'm hearing. Speaking new cases.<div><br></div><div>I do agree, we are probably over that mark now and don't know it.</div><div><br></div><div>Stay safe you all.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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