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   <title>171 vs 177 : In reference to the furnace question,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=705" rel="nofollow">g4royce</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Aug 2011 at 9:42am<br /><br />In reference to the furnace question, we use the furnace a lot to help dry out the pod.&nbsp; In our 152 our heads are directly over the furnace but somehow the lower bunk in where is sounds the loudest. <br><br>I have a few other questions about what type of electric heaters everyone is using but I'll start another thread on heaters so it'll be easier to search in the future :)<br><br>-T<br>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 : You are correct, they are based...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Aug 2011 at 9:36pm<br /><br />You are correct, they are based on the ammonia-based absorption cycle, no compressor.]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 : I am confused about some of the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=422" rel="nofollow">TIDALWAVE</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Aug 2011 at 7:48pm<br /><br />I am confused about some of the comments made about refrigerators in this thread.&nbsp; Several mentions were made about the refrigerator 'compressor'.&nbsp; I have assumed that all of the Pods have 'evaporative' type refrigerators, which don't have moving parts...just a loop system of liquid/gases.<br>They only require a heat source to run.&nbsp; Am I wrong about this?<br>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :   HA! I&amp;#039;ll be in VA mid-October...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Aug 2011 at 6:00pm<br /><br />HA!&nbsp; I'll be in VA mid-October also (Shenandoah).&nbsp; <img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><div>&nbsp;</div><div>A lot depends on your usage and strategy.&nbsp; Techntrek&nbsp;has covered the technical aspects well, as usual.</div><div>I&nbsp;have yet to have&nbsp;trouble getting 3 days out of the batteries.&nbsp;&nbsp;However, I use the furnace very little - usually just when taking a shower.&nbsp; The Pod is well insulated and the temps in that region aren't too bad that time of year (the locals may want to chime in with details).</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I <u>like</u> it to be a little cool.&nbsp; I use a sleeping bag as a comforter and don't mind sleeping in sweats, if it is particularly cool.&nbsp; It all depends on what you are comfortable with.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I agree, doing a "bulk" charge every 2-3 days would likely be fine.&nbsp; &nbsp; </div>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 : The rule of thumb is to not go...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Aug 2011 at 4:34pm<br /><br />The rule of thumb is to not go below 50% depth-of-discharge most of the time, but an occasional dip as far as 70% DOD is ok.&nbsp; Never go below 70%.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Batteries will accept the biggest charge during their "bulk" stage, slurping down the amps in just an hour or so, which takes you up to 20% DOD.&nbsp; When charging from a generator usually you only want to get to this point.&nbsp; Trying to get through the "absorbtion" stage to get to the final "float" stage will take many, many more hours and is a waste of fuel.&nbsp; If your trip is less than a week long, shoot for a bulk charge&nbsp;every other day or every 3rd day (depending on your current DOD), then do a full charge at home.&nbsp; If you'll be out more than a week you should try to get it above 10% DOD at least once a week to prevent damage.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>This is an excellent FAQ which explains all you want to know about lead acid batteries:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm" target="_blank">http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>To find your DOD let the battery sit for a few hours - no charging or loads - then take a voltage reading.&nbsp; Look at the chart in that FAQ to find your State of Charge (SOC is exactly opposite DOD, so 70% DOD = 30% SOC).</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Sorry I don't know how many amps the furnace uses, a quick look online said anywhere from 4 to 11 amps while running, figure on a 50% duty cycle so anywhere from 2 to 5.5 amps-hour.&nbsp; I took a lot of measurements of energy useage of things in the 'pod and didn't check the furnace fan (<a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723&amp;PID=14737&amp;title=creating-an-instructi&#111;n-maintanence-manual#14737" target="_blank">http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723&amp;PID=14737&amp;title=creating-an-instruction-maintanence-manual#14737</A>)</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Since you have two batteries in parallel you'll experience something called the Peukert Effect.&nbsp; Bottom line, two lead acid batteries in parallel have more energy than two of them used separately.&nbsp; If your batteries are rated at 100 amps @ 20 hours, two of them is 200 amps total, or 100 amps if you only go to 50% DOD.&nbsp; However, in reality you'll get slightly more than 100 amps.&nbsp; Maybe 110 or 115.&nbsp; Here is a good link with explanations of the Peukert Effect, and a calculator which you can download.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.smartgauge.co.uk/technical1.html" target="_blank">http://www.smartgauge.co.uk/technical1.html</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :    Originally posted by David  Yes,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=820" rel="nofollow">secretbard</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Aug 2011 at 1:06pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br />Yes, the furnace is quite loud.&nbsp; When camping with no hook ups, it drains the battery quickly, also.<div><br></div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>How quickly does it drain the battery? &nbsp;I ask this question because in October, I am going dry camping in VA where there will be no hook-ups. &nbsp;I will be using the furnace at night to stay warm. &nbsp;I do have two batteries running in parallel. &nbsp;I will be bringing one Yamaha genny which I will plug into the pod and charge the pod for about 2 to 3 hours each day.</div><div><br></div><div>Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it unwise to let the battery bank drain more than 25% before plugging it in to recharge (that is to say, less than the 75% total battery bank charge)? &nbsp;I say unwise, because it may lessen the life of the battery. &nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 : We never use the heater in our...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=960" rel="nofollow">Jerry & Sandy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 Aug 2011 at 9:18pm<br /><br />We never use the heater in our 177. &nbsp;Use an electric hater that keeps the pod toasty]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 : Thank you all for your helpful...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=910" rel="nofollow">oldgrumpy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 Aug 2011 at 5:42pm<br /><br />Thank you all for your helpful comments.&nbsp; You, and your responses,&nbsp;are reflective of the way I ended my original post.<DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>"I've learned a great deal from all of you already and feel regardless of which Pod we eventually purchase, we will be joining a group of very friendly, knowledgeable and welcoming folks."</DIV>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :   Yes, the furnace is quite...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Aug 2011 at 4:08pm<br /><br />Yes, the furnace is quite loud.&nbsp; When camping with no hook ups, it drains the battery quickly, also.<div>When I have electric hook ups, I use a small electric heater.&nbsp; It will keep the temperature as "toasty" as I wish - with very little noise.</div>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 : I agree that the fridge really...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Aug 2011 at 3:54pm<br /><br /><P>I agree that the fridge really isn't an issue, either for noise or light.&nbsp; And yes, the furnace is like a jet engine taking off, the only thing worse for noise is the A/C.&nbsp; Which is why we leave the A/C fan on all night.</P>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :  Originally posted by splanteWe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=916" rel="nofollow">Damour</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Aug 2011 at 9:13am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by splante</strong></em><br /><br />We did go with the 177. &nbsp;Although the amount of room does not sound like much, it was the thing that made us pick the 177. &nbsp;We have two small to medium dogs and it really would have been too tight in the 171. I also did not like the fridge next to the bed in the 171, not for noise just that if someone was still asleep and you wanted to get in the fridge you might disturb them. &nbsp;Also made the bed seem more closed in.&nbsp;<DIV><BR></DIV><DIV></td></tr></table> </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I hope that you don't need to use the furnace too often because it's under the bed in the 177 , and that makes noise even more than a fridge. We never heard the fridge when we were asleep. </DIV>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 : We did go with the 177. Although...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=583" rel="nofollow">splante</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Aug 2011 at 7:36am<br /><br />We did go with the 177. &nbsp;Although the amount of room does not sound like much, it was the thing that made us pick the 177. &nbsp;We have two small to medium dogs and it really would have been too tight in the 171. I also did not like the fridge next to the bed in the 171, not for noise just that if someone was still asleep and you wanted to get in the fridge you might disturb them. &nbsp;Also made the bed seem more closed in.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Being former tent campers, we had a lot of stuff. &nbsp;Storage is not ideal, however I have been adapting with each trip. &nbsp;We do not use the bathroom, so it is a closet for us. &nbsp;There is the under seat storage that is handy. &nbsp;We still visit parks with no electric so have pots and dishes in a bin that can be kept outside when at any site. &nbsp;We do have the microwave (which I never thought I would use, but love when have electric sites) but if you don't go with it, that gives more room. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>We also considered the 175, but with dogs that we allow on furniture, the couch would have likely gotten messy and the cover is not removable. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Whatever you go with, it is good to do some price checking. &nbsp;We found the best deal at Couch's in Ohio, then found a dealer closer that came close to their price with less travel to get it. &nbsp;Saved A LOT of money!&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 : Welcome to the group oldgrumpy!...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Aug 2011 at 7:20am<br /><br />Welcome to the group oldgrumpy!&nbsp; Nice to have a fellow Hoosier! <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Your question is interesting....I wish I knew the answer.&nbsp; My guess would be something along the lines of what Techntrek mentioned.&nbsp; Personally, if I were buying today, I'd likely favor the slide model - for the extra elbow room.&nbsp; It is all a matter of personal choice, however.&nbsp; It comes down to what "works" best for you.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Please check in often and let us know how things are going. </DIV>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 : Greetings and welcome. We pull...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=543" rel="nofollow">ToddsPod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Aug 2011 at 2:56am<br /><br />Greetings and welcome. We pull our 2010 RP172 with our 2006 Dodge Caravan, which is, for all intents and purposes,&nbsp;essentially a 2006 Town and Country. If I'm not mistaken, you have the newer design, and apparently a slightly larger V6 (We have the largest for our year model at 3.8L). Although we didn't have the factory installed tow package, we had the dealership we bought from install an aftermarket hitch with which we are pleased. I've also installed some suspension helpers on the rear leaves to keep the rear in the air when towing. I think it also adds some stability, as it stiffens the suspension. I also considered adding an additional transmission cooler, but haven't done it yet. <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>As far as our towing experience, the 172 is 2221 lbs dry, not dissimilar to the 171 and 177. I've heard&nbsp;this weight doesn't include the refrigerator or the TV or microwave (the latter two&nbsp;we don't have). So that should be included in the cargo weight.&nbsp; We can pull at 60-65 mph as long as we aren't going uphill, and we get the usual 9-11 mpg. This seems to be about the same no matter what you tow with. But at least when we're not towing we can get ~23mpg. Unlike most pickup trucks.&nbsp; We don't do a lot of long distance trips because of the cost, but for shorter trips (~100 miles) it's fairly nice to tow.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>We haven't used a WDH, and we haven't had any issues, but I think it's a preference thing.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>We don't have the axle risers, but I plan on getting those and putting them on myself, because our sloped driveway gives us a hassle each time we park it.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>If you have any other questions about towing with a minivan, I'd be glad to share my experiences.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Happy trails!</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 Aug 2011 at 7:08pm<br /><br />Welcome! &nbsp;I just looked at the specs on FR's website, and I have two guesses. &nbsp;One, they may use a different axle on the 177 which has a higher weight capability. &nbsp;That's only a guess though. &nbsp;I did notice the 171 has 35 gallon gray/black tanks where the 177 only has 30 gallon tanks. &nbsp;So I'm sure they take the maximum weight of the liquid into account when figuring the amount of cargo you can add inside. &nbsp;An extra 10 gallons is around 90 pounds.]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :  We are retired, but wish to...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=910" rel="nofollow">oldgrumpy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 Aug 2011 at 5:43pm<br /><br />&nbsp;<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">We are retired, but wish to become newbies to camping. We think we will be invigorated by adding a new element to our life-style. Most of our trips would be within 300 to 400 miles of central Indiana. We are looking to the possible purchase of either a 171 or a 177. I'm very concerned about GVWR of the trailer as our TV will be our existing 2009 Town &amp; Country 4.0L V-6. We have the factory tow package and a class III receiver. I would install a brake controller and probably a WDH. My goal is to tow no more than 80% of our maximum allowable tow weight which would be just under 3100 lbs. GVW for the trailer. While we will be in control of what goes into the Pod and therefore its GVW I'm still curious as to the GVWR difference between the two with the 177 being 551 lbs. higher than the 171. The 171 has a Dry Ship Weight of 2121 lbs., while the 177 has a DSW of 2285 lbs., a surprising difference of only 164 lbs. given the slide. However the 177 has a cargo capacity of 387 lbs more than the 171. Is there a structural difference between the two to account for this difference in cargo capacity, or is my lack of experience causing me to miss something obvious. We would like the extra room of the 177 and I think could travel lite enough to stay close to a 3100lbs. limit, but I a little nervous with the extra weight.</P><P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><BR></P><P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in">I've learned a great deal from all of you already and feel regardless of which Pod we eventually purchase, we will be joining a group of very friendly, knowledgeable and welcoming folks.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=708" rel="nofollow">Folornhope</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Jul 2011 at 11:40pm<br /><br />Back to task... <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>With the two of you and a LARGE dog...you might like a little extra room to keep from tripping over "Bowser".</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>We went with the 177 because momma and I aren't small people, and it would get a tad crowded when we tried to pass each other in the 171-173 Pods.&nbsp; That little extra room makes it much more comfortable for us.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=714" rel="nofollow">Podsible Dream</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Jul 2011 at 7:01pm<br /><br />And how many of those 20 year periods ago was that.....?... <img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley24.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :    I live exactly half way...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Jul 2011 at 4:18pm<br /><br />I live exactly half way between Brownsburg and Pittsboro.&nbsp; It is West and slightly North of Indianapolis.&nbsp; I have a Brownsburg mailing address, as they deliver my mail.&nbsp; However, I do not live in either town - I am in the (unincorporated area)&nbsp;county.&nbsp; The "membership map" is not terribly accurate, in my case.&nbsp; <div>&nbsp;</div><div>I have not run into anyone yet who has heard of Gatliff.&nbsp; It is about 10 miles from Jellico (I-75).&nbsp; There is not much there now....probably a lot less 20 years ago, when I was born. <img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley17.gif" height="20" width="20" border="0" alt="T&#111;ngue" title="T&#111;ngue" /></div>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :   Originally posted by DavidKYMooses......Have...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=598" rel="nofollow">kymooses</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Jul 2011 at 2:37pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br />KYMooses......Have you heard of a town called Gatliff, KY?&nbsp; It is a "fly speck" on the map - just North and East of Jellico, TN.&nbsp; That's where my folks are from.&nbsp; My sister was born in Jellico.&nbsp; Had I come a little sooner, I would have been also.&nbsp; As it is, I'm a Hoosier, but raised "hillbilly".&nbsp;</td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Not Gatliff particularly, no.&nbsp; But some of the other surround towns I'm familiar with.&nbsp; How far up into Hoosierland are you anyways?</div>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 : KYMooses......Have you heard of...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Jul 2011 at 11:43am<br /><br />KYMooses......Have you heard of a town called Gatliff, KY?&nbsp; It is a "fly speck" on the map - just North and East of Jellico, TN.&nbsp; That's where my folks are from.&nbsp; My sister was born in Jellico.&nbsp; Had I come a little sooner, I would have been also.&nbsp; As it is, I'm a Hoosier, but raised "hillbilly".&nbsp; ]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :  Originally posted by kymooses Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Jul 2011 at 11:30am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by kymooses</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Damour</strong></em><br /><br />Thank you Diane for the explanations&nbsp; <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />&nbsp; <DIV>It's very appreciate </DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I thank you also, Diane.&nbsp; My first language is "hillbilly", so I'm learning also! <img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />&nbsp; LOL, I actually had something relevant to post then read that and laughed and then lost my train of thought.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I consider myself very fluent in "drunken farmer redneck" myself!</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Damour...your "english" is probably better than mine!&nbsp; If you really want to get confused, here is how a "hillbilly" would explain:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The "saler" is the feller who done sode ye yer trailer.&nbsp; The "Dealer" is the feller who that otha feller works fer.&nbsp; What ye <strong><EM><U>call </U></EM></strong>em depends on how ye feel about whut kinda deal they gave ye. <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></DIV>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :   Originally posted by David  Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=598" rel="nofollow">kymooses</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Jul 2011 at 9:02pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by David</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Damour</strong></em><br /><br />Thank you Diane for the explanations&nbsp; <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />&nbsp;<div>It's very appreciate </div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I thank you also, Diane.&nbsp; My first language is "hillbilly", so I'm learning also! <img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div><img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />&nbsp; LOL, I actually had something relevant to post then read that and laughed and then lost my train of thought.&nbsp; </div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I consider myself very fluent in "drunken farmer redneck" myself!</div>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :   Originally posted by DamourThank...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Jul 2011 at 11:45am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Damour</strong></em><br /><br />Thank you Diane for the explanations&nbsp; <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />&nbsp;<div>It's very appreciate </div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I thank you also, Diane.&nbsp; My first language is "hillbilly", so I'm learning also! <img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=916" rel="nofollow">Damour</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Jul 2011 at 11:17am<br /><br />Thank you Diane for the explanations&nbsp; <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />&nbsp;<DIV>It's very appreciate </DIV>]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 : Note: the fridges in the &amp;#039;pods...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=217" rel="nofollow">techntrek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jul 2011 at 11:29pm<br /><br />Note: &nbsp;the fridges in the 'pods and in most campers do NOT have compressors like a home fridge. &nbsp;They run using a much older technology which uses ammonia and heat, which runs completely silent. &nbsp;However, the 'pod also has two 12 volt exhaust fans in the back which are thermostatically controlled, which do make some noise when they come on. &nbsp;In colder weather they don't come on, in warmer weather they will.]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :  Originally posted by Damour ***...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=819" rel="nofollow">Hodge-PODge</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jul 2011 at 9:34pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Damour</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV>*** question : the words dealer .. and saler&nbsp; .. does it mean the same thing ? </DIV><DIV>If I talk about the place that I bought my trailer&nbsp; . </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</td></tr></table> </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Damour, you are right, and you are doing a great job figuring out the correct English to use.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Dealer and saler are the same thing.&nbsp; Except you would say "seller" instead of saler.&nbsp; A seller is anyone who "sells" something - think of Ebay <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="18" width="18" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />.&nbsp; But the reason "dealer" is a better word in this case because this "seller" actually owns a business.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Using the word "saler" was a very good guess because anytime you "sell" (verb) something, then you just made a "sale" (noun).&nbsp; A "sale" is&nbsp;the event in which&nbsp;a seller sells something to a buyer.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Let's just say your English is much better than my French!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Au Revoir!</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Diane</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=931" rel="nofollow">Footslogger03</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jul 2011 at 8:12pm<br /><br />We are towing with a 2011 Toyota Tacoma 4 Door, short bed. 6 cyl, standard trans. Pulls the T@B like it's not even there so I am hoping the experience with an R-Pod will be similar.<br /><br />MJ]]>
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   <title>171 vs 177 :  Originally posted by secretbardThe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=916" rel="nofollow">Damour</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jul 2011 at 7:51pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by secretbard</strong></em><br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The only thing I wish my Pod had was a window behind the kitchen counter.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;All in all, I am very happy with my purchase. &nbsp;Either way, my advice to you would be to spend a little time in both models and see which one serves your purpose more completely. &nbsp;</td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I would say exactly the same . </DIV><DIV>I spend 4 hours at the&nbsp;dealer to compare the 2 models. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>At first I went there to buy the 177 not knowing the 171 . </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>And at the end .. the 171 was better for us. </DIV><DIV>Even if the slide out was attractive at first.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>But I had the chance to see both side to side. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>*** question : the words dealer .. and saler&nbsp; .. does it mean the same thing ? </DIV><DIV>If I talk about the place that I bought my trailer&nbsp; . </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thank you&nbsp; <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley9.gif" height="20" width="20" border="0" alt="Embarrassed" title="Embarrassed" /></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=820" rel="nofollow">secretbard</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1328<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 Jul 2011 at 7:35pm<br /><br />The strange thing about my 172 is that it appears so much larger on the inside than it does on the outside, which is what Forest River seems to do with all their Pod layouts. &nbsp;It really is amazing to me. &nbsp;There is so much storage space on the inside that I have all the room I need for all of my stuff, then some. &nbsp;I started out wanting the slide out, but like the set up of the 172 better. &nbsp;The only thing I wish my Pod had was a window behind the kitchen counter. &nbsp;Right now, I use the shower vent and fan to vent the hot air off the cooking burners and it seems to being doing very well, however, it would have been nice to have the window option so that I could have hung a hanging plant under the cabinets. &nbsp;All in all, I am very happy with my purchase. &nbsp;Either way, my advice to you would be to spend a little time in both models and see which one serves your purpose more completely. &nbsp;]]>
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