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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : No wheel clearance issues, and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Mar 2019 at 8:58am<br /><br />No wheel clearance issues, and yes I have the risers. FWIW, the trailer also looks much better balanced with the bigger wheels on it.]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? :  Originally posted by offgrid I&amp;#039;m...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9097" rel="nofollow">TearlessTom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 Mar 2019 at 8:03am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br /><br />I'm under the impression that the torsion axle start angle change (aka clocking) doesn't quite give you the same height as the riser kit, but I might be wrong. <div></div><div>My suggestion is to measure as GlueGuy says and then get the LRD one with the highest load rating that you have clearance for  Since you're getting new wheels too be sure to check the load rating on those, you're only as good as your weakest link. I got these, both tires and wheels rated for 2540 lbs. It also saves the mounting cost. <div></div><div><a href="https://www.easternmarine.com/loadstar-st225-75r-15-radial-tire-aluminum-split-spoke-rim-5-lug-lrd" target="_blank">https://www.easternmarine.com/loadstar-st225-75r-15-radial-tire-aluminum-split-spoke-rim-5-lug-lrd</a></div></div><br /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Are you having any wheel well clearance issues with that tire?  That was my biggest concern . <br />Do you have risers on yours or not.  That is the set up I was wanting to order.<br /><br />Oh by the way I attempted to measure my wheel well clearance last night with a steel tape I had handy.  Clearance with the 205/75x14 was approx. 3.25 - 3.5 inches. <br />]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? :  I&amp;#039;m under the impression...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Mar 2019 at 1:56pm<br /><br />I'm under the impression that the torsion axle start angle change (aka clocking) doesn't quite give you the same height as the riser kit, but I might be wrong.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>My suggestion is to measure as GlueGuy says and then get the LRD one with the highest load rating that you have clearance for&nbsp; Since you're getting new wheels too be sure to check the load rating on those, you're only as good as your weakest link. I got these, both tires and wheels rated for 2540 lbs. It also saves the mounting cost.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.easternmarine.com/loadstar-st225-75r-15-radial-tire-aluminum-split-spoke-rim-5-lug-lrd" target="_blank">https://www.easternmarine.com/loadstar-st225-75r-15-radial-tire-aluminum-split-spoke-rim-5-lug-lrd</a><br></div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2019 13:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? :   Originally posted by TearlessTomOkay...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Mar 2019 at 1:31pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by TearlessTom</strong></em><br /><br />Okay guys I've done a lot more reading and research and crawling under the Pod etc.  <br><br>I have found that they changed the axle "clocking"  a year or two prior to my 2017 being made. To verify my axle is "clocked" at about the  4:00 - 4:30 position so it is already raised a bit vs prior years that as I understand it the risers were made for.<br><br>So from what I've read Risers are not needed for my Pod because of the axle clocking. <br><br>Is this correct?</td></tr></table>I think that's correct. Our 2017 HRE does not have the risers.<br><br><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by TearlessTom</strong></em><br /><br />Also,  I still want to change to the 15 inch tire for peace of mind with an increased load rating and speed rating.  Not planning on over loading or speeding but I do like the idea of the added safety margin that they give.<br><br>I know I need to measure the wheel well clearance but haven't thought of it when I had a tape measure in my hand. <br><br><br>Most suggest the 205/75/15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;is the 225/75/15 too much of a increase in height and width over the 205/75/14 which I have on now????? <br><br>205/75/14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;26.1 height&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8.1 width<br>205/75/15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;27.1 height&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8.1 width<br>225/75/15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;28.3 height&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8.9 width.</td></tr></table>The difference in radius of the 205/75/14 and the 205/75/15 is a half inch. I would measure the amount of space you have between the smaller tire and decide if you could tolerate a half inch less of it.<br>]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : Okay guys I&amp;#039;ve done a lot...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9097" rel="nofollow">TearlessTom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 Mar 2019 at 12:00pm<br /><br />Okay guys I've done a lot more reading and research and crawling under the Pod etc.  <br /><br />I have found that they changed the axle "clocking"  a year or two prior to my 2017 being made. To verify my axle is "clocked" at about the  4:00 - 4:30 position so it is already raised a bit vs prior years that as I understand it the risers were made for.<br /><br />So from what I've read Risers are not needed for my Pod because of the axle clocking. <br /><br />Is this correct?<br /><br />Also,  I still want to change to the 15 inch tire for peace of mind with an increased load rating and speed rating.  Not planning on over loading or speeding but I do like the idea of the added safety margin that they give.<br /><br />I know I need to measure the wheel well clearance but haven't thought of it when I had a tape measure in my hand. <br /><br /><br />Most suggest the 205/75/15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;is the 225/75/15 too much of a increase in height and width over the 205/75/14 which I have on now????? <br /><br />205/75/14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;26.1 height&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8.1 width<br />205/75/15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;27.1 height&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8.1 width<br />225/75/15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;28.3 height&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;8.9 width.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2019 12:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : Right. Except that both trucks...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 Feb 2019 at 1:17pm<br /><br />Right. Except that both trucks say "Ford F-150" in their names, there are numerous differences. Ours is an HRE RP-179 (higher stance) with 15" tires (another 1/2"higher).<div><br></div><div>Our F-150 is the 2015 "all aluminum" one, plus 4WD, plus the extended 157" wheelbase; all of which make it taller.</div><div><br></div><div>None-the-less, the basic rules for setting up the WDH still hold.</div>]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : Perhaps a bit off topic Tearless...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 Feb 2019 at 12:29pm<br /><br />Perhaps a bit off topic Tearless Tom but if you don't have the axle riser kit on your rPod you might want to consider adding it, seems like most folks on the forum including me tend to feel that the standard East/Midwest rPods have inadequate ground clearance.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? :  Originally posted by offgridGlad...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9097" rel="nofollow">TearlessTom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 Feb 2019 at 12:05pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br />Glad it’s worked out for you Tearless Tom. One reason for the setup difference might be trailer wheel size and ride height. Maybe I missed it but what wheels and lift setup do you have? If normal for the Midwest/East you will be sitting a little lower than GlueGuy.<br /><br /><br /><br /></td></tr></table> <br />I'm sure that is it. He runs 15  inch tires as I have 14.  He has a 2015 4WD truck mine is a 2014 2 wheel.  <br /><br />The 2015 is a lighter truck in the rear end and the 4wd normally have a bit higher stance so it is only logical that with those minor differences it will give us different settings.]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : And if you move the brackets too...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Feb 2019 at 4:13pm<br /><br />And if you move the brackets too far back, the bars will not be long enough in some sharp turns, leading to them becoming disengaged from the L brackets. &nbsp;]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : The further aft the brackets are...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Feb 2019 at 3:37pm<br /><br />The further aft the brackets are the longer the distance is from the bracket to the ball. That should increase the moment (torque) the bars are putting on the rig trying to fold it up around the ball, which increases the weight being redistributed. <br />Since the torque is force x distance, if you move the brackets aft and at the same time lower them to reduce the force pulling up on the bars, you end up with the same amount of weight distributed. <br />]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : Tearless Tom, Fastway has their...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Feb 2019 at 3:33pm<br /><br /><div>Tearless Tom, Fastway has their installation and set up instructions online <a href="http://here:%20www.fastwaytrailer.com/pdf/e2-round-bar-hitch-instructi&#111;ns.pdf" target="_blank">here:&nbsp;https://www.fastwaytrailer.com/pdf/e2-round-bar-hitch-instructions.pdf</a></div><div>You should have been given a copy by your dealer. &nbsp;</div><div>When the dealer set up our hitch, among other errors, they set the L brackets too far aft so that I had &lt;3" of distance from the middle of the bracket to the end of the bar.&nbsp; I moved it forward to have about the same distance as you ended up with.&nbsp; The propane tank mount is a problem for getting the L brackets in the right place, but you should be able to get it close enough.&nbsp; The other thing the dealer failed to do was to torque any of the bolts to the proper tightness.&nbsp; Thankfully nothing happened before I caught it.</div>]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? :  Originally posted by TheBumAs...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9097" rel="nofollow">TearlessTom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Feb 2019 at 2:44pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by TheBum</strong></em><br /><br />As I recall, I had to install the E2 L-brackets on our 179 at a little shorter distance than ideal due to the location of the propane bottle mount, but still within the spec'ed range.</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Mine were jammed up next to the propane tanks. I moved it aft about an inch or so. They measure 3.5 inches from the tip of the spring bar to the center of the hole.  I read somewhere it had to be at least 3 inches and the further back you put the bracket the less effect it has on the weight distribution. Moving mine back made about 1/10 of an inch difference with the same set up. ]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : As I recall, I had to install...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5021" rel="nofollow">TheBum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Feb 2019 at 11:33am<br /><br />As I recall, I had to install the E2 L-brackets on our 179 at a little shorter distance than ideal due to the location of the propane bottle mount, but still within the spec'ed range.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Feb 2019 at 2:22am<br /><br />Glad it’s worked out for you Tearless Tom. One reason for the setup difference might be trailer wheel size and ride height. Maybe I missed it but what wheels and lift setup do you have? If normal for the Midwest/East you will be sitting a little lower than GlueGuy.<br /><br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? :   Originally posted by TearlessTom  Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 10:14pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by TearlessTom</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by GlueGuy</strong></em><br /><br />Good to hear Tom! Your F-150 is a beast for pulling something like the RP-179. We have had absolutely zero issues with ours. It tows like a dream. No muss, no fuss, no sweat, no bother. Just exactly what you need on a camping trip.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Thanks you were a big help..&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I did find it curious that&nbsp; with 2 washers and the L bracket in the position you use&nbsp; vs 3 washers and the L bracket with 2 holes left under the frame (one hole lower than yours)&nbsp; gave me the exact same front wheel height but I felt with 3 washers I was getting a bit more sway control.</div><div><br></div><div>Probable all in my head but then again maybe not?</td></tr></table>No worries Tom. The WDH distributes some of the tongue weight to the front wheels, and a smaller amount to the axle of the trailer. I don't think you have to worry at all how much is actually going to the front wheels of your particular truck.</div><div><br></div><div>There may be a minor concern about how much is transferred to the trailer axle (the RP-179 axle is <b><u>just</u></b> adequate for a fully loaded RP-179). So it's theoretically possible to overload the R-pod axle, but you would still have to work on it a bit.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, our 2015 F-150 is a complete re-design of the truck (from prior years), and I think there is enough difference between the 2014 and the 2015 to make some minor rigging changes.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? :   Originally posted by GlueGuyGood...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9097" rel="nofollow">TearlessTom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 9:35pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by GlueGuy</strong></em><br /><br />Good to hear Tom! Your F-150 is a beast for pulling something like the RP-179. We have had absolutely zero issues with ours. It tows like a dream. No muss, no fuss, no sweat, no bother. Just exactly what you need on a camping trip.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Thanks you were a big help..&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I did find it curious that&nbsp; with 2 washers and the L bracket in the position you use&nbsp; vs 3 washers and the L bracket with 2 holes left under the frame (one hole lower than yours)&nbsp; gave me the exact same front wheel height but I felt with 3 washers I was getting a bit more sway control.</div><div><br></div><div>Probable all in my head but then again maybe not?</div>]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : Good to hear Tom! Your F-150 is...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 9:16pm<br /><br />Good to hear Tom! Your F-150 is a beast for pulling something like the RP-179. We have had absolutely zero issues with ours. It tows like a dream. No muss, no fuss, no sweat, no bother. Just exactly what you need on a camping trip.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9097" rel="nofollow">TearlessTom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 8:49pm<br /><br />Finally got it where I am happy with it.&nbsp; There were quite a few errors I found in the dealers installation&nbsp; which wasn't helping the performance of the hitch.<div><br></div><div>Everything was set up as a generic install, Not at all my truck and trailer specific which is what I thought I was paying for.&nbsp; The hitch was one notch or an inch to high.&nbsp; The hardware that mounts the L bracket was not properly mounted to the frame as I could put a finger between the frame and the bottom bolt so the L bracket was shifting as it could not be tighten down enough to hold it stable like that.</div><div><br></div><div>I understand why they did it.&nbsp; My Propane tank line was run under the right side to the external propane connection on the right side.&nbsp; It was a easy fix. I had to remove x1 3/8 self tapping screw and relocate the line.&nbsp; &nbsp;<font size="3"><b>Just dealer being LAZY!</b></font></div><div>The brackets were also not the correct distance&nbsp; from the hitch.&nbsp; Also some washers lock washers were missing and a mixture of No-stop and nuts with lock washers were used.</div><div><br></div><div>So&nbsp; I dropped the hitch height by one notch or about one inch.&nbsp; &nbsp;I removed some washers. I ended up at 3. and my L bracket with 2 holes open below the frame.&nbsp; I felt this gave me a good balance between sway control, while decreasing the up down bounce from the hitch being too high .&nbsp; My front end height is currently 1/10 inch over sprung.&nbsp; I can live with that.&nbsp; I may experiment some more later but for now the ride is good and the sway seems to have been mostly eliminated and it tracks well.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" /></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again for everyone input and help.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : +1 GlueGuy, I agree. </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 2:41pm<br /><br />+1 GlueGuy, I agree. ]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : What I&amp;#039;m saying is that he&amp;#039;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 2:05pm<br /><br />What I'm saying is that he's about an inch out of level, and the hitch assembly goes up/down about an inch at a time. Go for it. Start at a level place, or as close as you can get, and go on with the rest of it.]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : Yes for sure 2 different issues...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 1:23pm<br /><br />Yes for sure 2 different issues GlueGuy, I agree. <br /><br />Yes the trailer should be as level as you can reasonably make it,  but at some point you’ll run out of things to adjust and need to call it good at that point.  An inch is not going to be significant in the way it handles and won’t impact the tongue weight enough to notice. It will change a little with load variation too.  I get your argument about the point of rotation being the tire contact patch and not the axle but an inch out of level will only shift the trailer forward or back by about 0.1 inch which is not going to be noticeable. <br /><br />I’m sure you’re fine on the weight on your front wheels, but if you’re  concerned about it you can go weigh each axle on a public scale and compare what you get to the F150s Gross axle weight ratings. That gives you the gross combined vehicle weight and the trailer axle weight too which are good to know.<br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? :   Originally posted by offgridTearless...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 10:59am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br />Tearless Tom, lowering the tongue doesn’t change the tongue weight. The trailer is like a teeter totter, once you lift your kid sitting on the other end off the ground the weight stays the same. <br><br>As I understand the way that particular wdh works, the sway resistance is created by friction of the bars sliding in their holders. So, there needs to be a decent amount of tension on the bars for it to work. IOW, I suggest you keep some tension on the bars for better sway control even if that means the TV front end winds up a little lower. You have a very capable TV in the F150, it won’t hurt anything.</td></tr></table> Those are separate issues. You want the trailer to be close to level. That's why he needs to lower the hitch ball to get to a logical starting place. The height of the L brackets and the down-tilt to the hitch assembly will determine the amount of tension on the WDH.<div><br></div><div>The F-150 is way more than up to the task, and you could probably put as much or as little as the WDH could be set to. I think that you need to get "enough" tension to take advantage of the anti-sway capability of the E2 hitch.</div>]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? :   Originally posted by offgridTearless...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9097" rel="nofollow">TearlessTom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 10:10am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br />Tearless Tom, lowering the tongue doesn’t change the tongue weight. The trailer is like a teeter totter, once you lift your kid sitting on the other end off the ground the weight stays the same. <br><br>As I understand the way that particular wdh works, the sway resistance is created by friction of the bars sliding in their holders. So, there needs to be a decent amount of tension on the bars for it to work. IOW, I suggest you keep some tension on the bars for better sway control even if that means the TV front end winds up a little lower. You have a very capable TV in the F150, it won’t hurt anything. <br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>I understand your point but not your logic or maybe you misunderstood mine.</div><div><br></div><div>I am lowering the tongue because it is at a slight upward tilt which as I understand is a bad thing. Can cause jack knifes in hard braking or bad weather.&nbsp; &nbsp;It should be level or tilted slightly down. Mine is 1 inch higher&nbsp; when attached to truck than it is when the trailer is level.&nbsp; &nbsp;I need to get it down to level of just below.</div><div><br></div><div>I need to remove some washers as I am currently over-sprung about 1/2 inch. I am not concern about the actual weight&nbsp; as stated my TV is more than adequate to handle it.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Your analogy to a teeter totter (we call them see-saw down here because of the noise they make)</div><div>anyway your analogy is correct except for the fact that position of the axle makes it more of a fulcrum&nbsp; in reverse which will apply more weight with varying&nbsp; angles shifting more of the trailer weight forward which is fine for the tongue but I need to decrease the load off my front wheels as it is already more than it should be. Hence removing the washers.</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 8:07am<br /><br /><div>I got a spare tire holder to put on the tongue of our 172 from Amazon.&nbsp; It was a bolt on type that attached to one frame rail or the other.&nbsp; I had no problem putting it on, but when I had to do a little sharp backing it got in the way.&nbsp; I'd like to get a mounting system that would attach to both rails and hole the tire horizontally above the LP tank and batteries. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Any ideas on where to look for one?</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=428" rel="nofollow">David and Danette</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 8:02am<br /><br />&nbsp; &nbsp;As I had mentioned before I thought we needed more tongue weight when we owned our 171 so we bought a spare tire bracket from Norther Tool and attached it to the front A frame of our r-pod. Moving the spare tire to the front gave about 70 lbs. more weight to the tongue weight and that extra weight helped the camper tow better. I think maybe with your situation more tongue weight would be of help.]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : Tearless Tom, lowering the tongue...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Feb 2019 at 5:15am<br /><br />Tearless Tom, lowering the tongue doesn’t change the tongue weight. The trailer is like a teeter totter, once you lift your kid sitting on the other end off the ground the weight stays the same. <br /><br />As I understand the way that particular wdh works, the sway resistance is created by friction of the bars sliding in their holders. So, there needs to be a decent amount of tension on the bars for it to work. IOW, I suggest you keep some tension on the bars for better sway control even if that means the TV front end winds up a little lower. You have a very capable TV in the F150, it won’t hurt anything. <br />]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? :   Originally posted by furpodTilting...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9097" rel="nofollow">TearlessTom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 Feb 2019 at 9:37pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by furpod</strong></em><br /><br />Tilting the head doesn't change the height of the tongue, It preloads the spring bars.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>I plan on lowering&nbsp; both the hitch and the L bracket to&nbsp; the lowest position to lower the hitch height . Now debating on how many washers to use.&nbsp; I understand that less transfer less weight to the front and as I am over-sprung&nbsp; by about 0.4 inch with a full fresh water container.&nbsp; By lowering the tongue I will be increasing the tongue weight so it may need slightly more adjustment.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>It is currently has 6 washers.&nbsp; GlueGuy has 2,&nbsp; Others 3 - 4.&nbsp; &nbsp;I will try somewhere in that range.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the help.</div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=936" rel="nofollow">furpod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 Feb 2019 at 9:07pm<br /><br />Tilting the head doesn't change the height of the tongue, It preloads the spring bars.]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? : The hitch/ball assembly on our...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 Feb 2019 at 8:20pm<br /><br />The hitch/ball assembly on our 2015 F-150 is all the way down; bottom holes.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Likewise, the L brackets on the trailer are also all the way down. I guess that's the "top" holes, as the hang down.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>We have two really thick washers on the hitch head.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I'll get you some pictures in the morning.</div>]]>
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   <title>I was Sold the wrong WDH...What effects??? :   Originally posted by GlueGuyYou...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=9097" rel="nofollow">TearlessTom</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12572<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 Feb 2019 at 6:40pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by GlueGuy</strong></em><br /><br />You may have too heavy of a hitch, but with the F-150 you could probably live with it. It will be a bit too stiff for the R-pod, but it will work.<div><br></div><div>How much is the upward tilt? When the trailer is disconnected, the top of the ball to the ground on the truck should be roughly equal to the top of the hitch to the ground. IOW, the trailer tongue and the ball on the hitch should be about the same height (disregarding the number of washers for now).</div><div><br></div><div>The number of washers will determine how much weight you're going to transfer. More washer = more weight. Fewer washers = less weight. I'm guessing you should only need a couple of washers, if that.</div><div><br></div><div>We have 2 (thick) washers on our E2 600/6000 hitch, and the transfer is pretty good.</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>GlueGuy, or anyone with the E2 600/6000 system .Especially if you have a Ford F150&nbsp; could you possible send or include some photos of your set up , including the washers and thickness,&nbsp; and how many holes top/bottom for the "L "bracket.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I picked it up today and like the design better but it is still not quite right.&nbsp; &nbsp;I took it up to Bucee's again for some flat ground and a BBQ sandwich.</div><div><br></div><div>The measurements are pretty good but needs improvement.&nbsp; &nbsp;As they set it up I am over sprung as I understand it.</div><div><br></div><div>My Unlaiden (truck only) front wheel measurement was&nbsp; : 36.625</div><div>My Trailer only measurement was :&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;36.875</div><div>My Trailer with WDH Bars attached :&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;36.3125</div><div><br></div><div>So my target height as I understand it is: between :&nbsp; 36.625 and 36.75</div><div><br></div><div>My rear wheel is:</div><div><br></div><div><div>My Unlaiden (truck only) rear&nbsp; wheel measurement was&nbsp; : 37.188</div><div>My Trailer only measurement was :&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;35.938</div><div>My Trailer with WDH Bars attached :&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;36.625</div></div><div><br></div><div>My Level trailer tongue height&nbsp; is:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;17.5</div><div>My trailer tongue height with WDH is&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;18.5</div><div>so I have a one inch upward tilt.</div><div><br></div><div>I have one hole left at the bottom of the hitch so if I drop it that should take care of the upward tilt.</div><div>And if I remove some washers. It has 6 now down to maybe 4 that should bring my front end up hopefully approx. 0.4 inch..</div><div><br></div><div>Is this right?</div><div><br></div><div>GlueGuy?</div><div>Anyone?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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