R-pod Owners Forum : 50 or 30 amp http://www.rpod-owners.com/ This is an XML content feed of; R-pod Owners Forum : I need HELP!!! : 50 or 30 amp Copyright (c) 2006-2009 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 20 May 2026 18:27:16 +0000 Wed, 06 Feb 2019 07:27:21 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.64 360 www.rpod-owners.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=12558 R-pod Owners Forum http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png http://www.rpod-owners.com/ 50 or 30 amp : That may be the simplest solution... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120457#120457 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12558
Posted: 06 Feb 2019 at 7:27am

That may be the simplest solution yet.  One plug, a little rewiring between a 50A exterior plug and the breaker box, a new cord, and the dogbone to be able to connect to 30A power sources.]]> Wed, 06 Feb 2019 07:27:21 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120457#120457 50 or 30 amp : There are 30 to 50A adapter dogbones... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120455#120455 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12558
Posted: 06 Feb 2019 at 7:01am

There are 30 to 50A adapter dogbones so you could convert your trailer permanently to 50A and just use one of those at home or at pedestals without 50A service. Perfectly safe. Its pretty common for folks to update an older RV to 50A when they modernize them. You have to if you put dual a/c's on it and want to run them both at the same time.  Gotta do a bit of surgery and wire routing though. ]]> Wed, 06 Feb 2019 07:01:09 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120455#120455 50 or 30 amp : As I laid awake in bed last... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120453#120453 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12558
Posted: 06 Feb 2019 at 6:34am

As I laid awake in bed last night with the noise of an urban environment keeping John of Dreams well away, I thought why not just put a 50A RV plug next to the existing 30A, set up a little transfer switch in which you connect the existing 30A and the 50A conductors such that you can choose between the two amperages (kinda like the marine battery switch on a boat).  Wire from the transfer switch to the main electric panel with 6awg wire to connect to the 30A main breaker.  Then you'd never have an undersized conductor all the way to the 30A distribution point.  No additional breakers needed.  Just carry two cables.   Once again, I have proven beyond a "reasonable" doubt that I should not quit my day job.]]> Wed, 06 Feb 2019 06:34:39 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120453#120453 50 or 30 amp : Well lostagain, no math involved... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120451#120451 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12558
Posted: 06 Feb 2019 at 6:25am

Well lostagain, no math involved here really so not to worry.

The drawback with my suggestion is cost and weight, long 50A RV cords are not cheap or light. Your suggestion uses only a short inexpensive input cord. 

Best would still probably be a NEMA 4X or IP55/IP65 style enclosure with a breaker in it, your 50A pigtail and male plug, and another short 30A  pigtail with 30A female out. Basically you're creating a dog bone with a breaker in it, with the breaker in a nice solid enclosure that you wouldn't have to worry too much about getting rain in or mechanically damaging. 

There are some reasonably priced ones on Amazon. Like these. You'd need to pick one that fit the breaker you've selected and have enough room for terminating and routing the conductors. 

https://www.amazon.com/Ogrmar-Plastic-Dustproof-Junction-Enclosure/dp/B07871XT6F/ref=sr_1_2?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1549455539&sr=1-2&keywords=ip65%2Benclosure&th=1
]]> Wed, 06 Feb 2019 06:25:35 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120451#120451 50 or 30 amp : It's the math. Ever since... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120448#120448 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 8:21pm

It's the math.  Ever since 2d grade I've panicked when I had to do math.  I'm a bit dyslexic and the numbers get jumbled up when I see them.  I shouldn't be allowed to use a telephone. I would have dearly loved to be an civil engineer building bridges to nowhere and tunnels under obstructions.  But, alas, I had to enhance my naturally argumentative nature instead.  

Your idea makes more sense.  It would be easy to mount the box in the pod and get the long 50A cord.  Why even a lawyer, properly supervised, might be able to install it.  And it would alleviate the moisture issue almost entirely.
]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 20:21:27 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120448#120448 50 or 30 amp : lostagain, you're doing fine.... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120445#120445 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 5:33pm

lostagain, you're doing fine. Have you considered a new career in electrical power system engineering?

I think that is electrically the same thing I was suggesting except that instead of the velcro attachment of  the breaker box to the pedestal, attach it to the pod and run a longer 50A cable. That would address StephenH's issue with lugging around a bulky box, and any potential concerns a park operator might have with velcroing something to his pedestal. Electrically they are identical solutions so either would work, your preference. 

Just one other thing, I wouldn't modify the male plug connector which would compromise its UL listing. Instead, just terminate one of the hots inside the breaker box using a closed end crimp connector which is intended for that purpose. That way everything is fully listed and code compliant. 
]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 17:33:00 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120445#120445 50 or 30 amp : Here is what I was thinking:... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120444#120444 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 3:54pm

Here is what I was thinking:  
Get this cord https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Cable-4-Foot-50-Amp-4-Wire/dp/B002RL9JAW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1549402905&sr=8-4&keywords=4+prong+electric+range+power+cord

Cut off one of the hot spades and the corresponding other end on the pigtail.  Hard wire it into the box I previously mentioned with the link.  You basically have, if the Colombian altitude hasn't affected my brain too much, a hot, ground, and neutral that draws from a 50A breaker.  Since the cord is a 50A cord, you're not undersized.  [I'm assuming the plug configuration is compatible for the pedestal and the pigtail, but haven't confirmed it.}

On the back of the box with the 30A plug and breaker, fasten a length or a couple lengths of 2 sided velcro to wrap a couple times around the pedestal.  The pigtail would enter from below with an outdoor knockout connector.  After velcroing the box to the pedestal securely, plug in the pigtail to the 50A plug such that it drops down, creating a drip point, then back up to the 30A box.  

I think the whole thing would fit into the box my Double H boots came in and would be easy to store.

The advantage, you have no splices, no cut cable to waterproof, and the 2nd hot never makes it into the system because the spade doesn't go into the 220VAC plug.  Total cost about $60 tax, lic., dealer prep. and doc fees included.

Ok, offgrid, and GlueGuy, tear me a new one. ;--) and tell me I should stick with the legal biz.  
]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:54:48 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120444#120444 50 or 30 amp : One other thought. Get lostagain’s... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120443#120443 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 3:35pm

One other thought. Get lostagain’s lowcost listed RV outlet and breaker box. Hardwire a 6awg 50A rated cord and 50A plug to it.

Permanently mount it on a convenient place onthe trailer tongue or bumper. If you want to use a 50A RV service plug the 50A cord to it then your existing 30A cord from the new box to the trailer connector. When not in use wrap up the 50A cord and clip it to the trailer. Dispense with the dogbone. Should be a pretty inexpensive solution and straightforward installation.

Just a thought. ]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:35:50 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120443#120443 50 or 30 amp : StephenH is correct, a 12Vdc fuse... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120441#120441 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 2:39pm

StephenH is correct, a 12Vdc fuse isn’t designed to clear a fault in a 120vac circuit. It would most likely arc and the arc would not extinguish. Not good.

Since it’s an ac circuit the voltage alternates from polarity. So what you have is a hot line, a neutral and a ground. The neutral will be white. Typically the hot will be black. The ground will be bare copper. For a 120Vac circuit you’ll get 120V between black and neutral. For a 240Vac circuit you will see both red and black as well as white and ground. You’ll get 120Vac between black and neural and between red and neutral and 240Vac between red and black. The neutral and ground should stay connected at all times the circuit is live. Only the hot line(s) should get a circuit breaker or fuse.



]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 14:39:53 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120441#120441 50 or 30 amp : No, 30A DC is not the same as... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120439#120439 Author: StephenH
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 2:11pm

No, 30A DC is not the same as 30A AC from what I was reading of the specs when I was looking at breakers.For example, the specs for the push button breaker I cited was:
Interrupt Capacity:3000A @ 120V AC , 5000A @ 32V DC
So a 12V 30A fuse would not support 120V 30A the way I read it.
]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 14:11:16 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120439#120439 50 or 30 amp : Something like this would work.... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120437#120437 Author: GlueGuy
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 1:18pm

Something like this would work. It uses 10 AWG wire, so would be fine for 30 amps. 30 amp blade-style fuses that you use in your TV could be used as spares. The 12V rating should be a non-issue, as 30 amps is 30 amps.]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 13:18:40 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120437#120437 50 or 30 amp : Inline, I would cut the outer... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120435#120435 Author: StephenH
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 12:32pm

Inline, I would cut the outer layer of the cord in the center to find the positive conductor. I would strip enough to be able to cut the positive conductor and then cut it. Then strip the ends enough to attach to the terminals. That would then need to be wrapped and then sealed in the waterproof enclosure. The ends would need to be outside that enclosure, of course so that the 50A plug could be plugged into the outlet and the 30A socket would be available for the RPod's power cord.]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:32:39 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120435#120435 50 or 30 amp : Yeah, I was thinking it's... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120432#120432 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 11:30am

Yeah, I was thinking it's kind of big and would have to be mounted to a stake or something.  I guess you could get some heavy double sided velcro and mount it to the pedestal. 

But how would you install the in line fuse?  In the dogbone adaptors all seem to be sealed?
]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 11:30:42 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120432#120432 50 or 30 amp : Thanks. I'll look into it. ... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120431#120431 Author: StephenH
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 11:05am

Thanks. I'll look into it.]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 11:05:51 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120431#120431 50 or 30 amp : I was looking at the LEB or LET... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120428#120428 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 11:01am

I was looking at the LEB or LET series. Sorry for the non clickable link, I’m having trouble working that with my phone.

https://m.littelfuse.com/products/fuse-blocks-fuseholders-and-fuse-accessories/electrical-inline-panel-mount-fuse-holders.aspx]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 11:01:17 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120428#120428 50 or 30 amp : StephenH, what you’re looking... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120426#120426 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 10:55am

StephenH, what you’re looking at wouldn’t actually be rated for a wet location. It might work for you in practice, you’d probably want to close it up and test it to see how watertight it was.

Lostagain, you’re doing fine. That box and breaker would not only work but it would be fully rated and code compliant I think, your only problem is going to be mounting. NEMA3R boxes have to be mounted vertically well above ground to stay dry. If you attached it to a piece of pipe or steel stake and drove that in the ground youd be fine but I’m not sure that would always be practical.

GlueGuy, I think the water resistant fuse and fuse holder I found was made by littelfuse. Made for fusing things like parking lot area lighting so you’d need to mechanically protect it in some kind of enclosure but probably a waterproof one is unnecessary. StephenH’s one might work fine for that. ]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:55:13 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120426#120426 50 or 30 amp : Originally posted by lostagainWould... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120425#120425 Author: StephenH
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 10:51am

Originally posted by lostagain

Would something like this work, using a 50A rated pigtail to connect it to the power supply in the RV park, or am I again demonstrating that I shouldn't be messing with this stuff?

I looked at that one and thought it would be way to big and bulky to carry around. It is more like the RV outlet I installed at my house. Plus, one would need a way to have it waterproof with strain relief and then make sure it stays vertical so rain would not run in.
]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:51:39 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120425#120425 50 or 30 amp : What inline fuse holder would... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120424#120424 Author: StephenH
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 10:48am

What inline fuse holder would you use? ]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:48:55 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120424#120424 50 or 30 amp : As unlikely it might be to actually... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120420#120420 Author: GlueGuy
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 10:27am

As unlikely it might be to actually be a problem, I might just put in an inline 30 amp fuse, and carry a spare. If the fuse pops, something is wrong; go fix it. You could probably do that for $20 or so,]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:27:35 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120420#120420 50 or 30 amp : Would something like this work,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120419#120419 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 10:22am

Would something like this work, using a 50A rated pigtail to connect it to the power supply in the RV park, or am I again demonstrating that I shouldn't be messing with this stuff?
https://www.macshardware.com/POWER-OUTLET-30AMP-R32U-CON-PK-p/7111222.htm
]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:22:19 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120419#120419 50 or 30 amp : What about something like this... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120417#120417 Author: StephenH
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 10:21am

What about something like this with the push-button breaker?
https://smile.amazon.com/Heavy-Duty-Extension-Cord-Protection/dp/B07FDFL4KJ/

The idea would be to make it something like this:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00R8MLHKK/
]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:21:09 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120417#120417 50 or 30 amp : StephenH, it looks like either... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120415#120415 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 9:46am

StephenH, it looks like either of those would work for the application. I saw an inline fuse and fuse holder that would work as well, about the same $$, but the breakers would be more convenient. The challenge is going to be the enclosure as you say. You’d probably want a NEMA 4X rating on that, and a clear cover would be handy.

]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 09:46:07 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120415#120415 50 or 30 amp : I have been looking for possibilities.... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120414#120414 Author: StephenH
Subject: 12558
Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 9:14am

I have been looking for possibilities. I am waiting on an answer from West Marine's technical support on this. I am looking at two models of breakers that might be a cost-effective way to build in to an adapter.
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/blue-sea-systems--c-series-flat-rocker-circuit-breakers-single-pole--P016931966?recordNum=28
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/blue-sea-systems--medium-duty-push-button-reset-only-circuit-breakers--P014122303?recordNum=15
What do you think of these? Do you think a cost-effective dog-bone adapter could be fabricated using one of these? The hardest part would be to fabricate a small box that could go inline into which one could be installed. The Medium-Duty Push-Button Reset-Only breaker would likely be the easier of the two to work with although it is more expensive.
]]> Tue, 05 Feb 2019 09:14:40 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120414#120414 50 or 30 amp : StephenH, thank you. I have no... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120408#120408 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12558
Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 4:44pm

StephenH, thank you. I have no issues whatever with your conclusion and I was not at all referring to any of your posts in my earlier one. 

I don't know of a low cost solution for an inline breaker either. If I ever come across one I'll let you know, but I doubt it can be done at that kind of price point. 
]]> Mon, 04 Feb 2019 16:44:24 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120408#120408 50 or 30 amp : What serves readers of the... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120380#120380 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12558
Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 12:35pm

What serves readers of the board is informed fact-basedinformation that can affect rPod owners. Opinions based on incomplete knowledge, ill founded beliefs, and, on occasion,personal prejudice that one’s preferences are the best while others are justplain wrong, don't serve the readership.

 

Mike, who anointed you to be the arbiter of whose posts are writtenwith the intention share helpful information and who is on an ego trip?  Where did you acquire the clairvoyant powersto enter the mind of other contributors and divine their innermost intentions?  Why is it that when you disagree with whatothers say, instead of challenging the facts, you react with dismissiveness andhostility?  No one obliged to read anythread or post.  If you don’t want toparticipate in the conversation, just skip the thread and let others be thejudge of what they want to read or write about. If no one is interested, the thread will die a natural death.

 

Do you disagree with what I said about the law of civil liabilityas it applies to responsibility for taking known risks?  Please, sir, correct me.  I am open to hearing other views and welcomeyour alternative facts.  I would love to beproven wrong.

 

Do you think the engineers who commented in this thread werewrong?  If so, show us your calculationsand your science-based analysis.  Show uswhere their assessment that high enough impedance could occur using a 50/30Adogbone to start a fire is erroneous.  Showus facts that refute Forest River’s decision to warn against the use of such anunprotected dogbone.  If I recallcorrectly, in an earlier post you conceded the correctness of the engineers’analysis.  Indeed, if we had to pay forall the free engineering advice they have graciously shared, whether onelectrical issues, brakes, axle loading, trailer balance, etc. we would bebroke.  We owe these guys a debt ofgratitude, not accusations that they are doing this to show off.

]]> Mon, 04 Feb 2019 12:35:05 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120380#120380 50 or 30 amp : Offgrid, I appreciate the information... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120360#120360 Author: StephenH
Subject: 12558
Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 9:21am

Offgrid, I appreciate the information you provided in this thread. While I will still use a dog bone if I encounter a situation where the only choice is a 50A connection, I will do so knowing that there is some risk and to make sure my RPod's wiring is in good shape so that that risk can be minimized.

If I can find an adapter with a 30A circuit breaker, I would prefer to get that. However, a reasonably priced adapter so equipped is not available AFAIK. If someone finds one at a reasonable price for something that would likely be used very infrequently, I would buy one. I can purchase a 50A to 30A adapter for $12.95 (Amazon Prime). It would be worth spending more on one if  it had a 30A breaker, but not that much more. In the three years we have had our RPod, I have only had to use an adapter once. It would not make sense to spend over a hundred dollars on something that may only be used once every few years.
]]> Mon, 04 Feb 2019 09:21:07 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120360#120360 50 or 30 amp : I believe I explained why I felt... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120352#120352 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12558
Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 7:23am

I believe I explained why I felt it was important for me to participate in this thread. 

I sometimes have my own opinions of other members' motivations but I keep them to myself, and I don't appreciate other members offering up their opinions about mine. If you don't like my posts you are under no obligation to read them. 

Personal attacks should have no place in this forum. Not impressive. 
 
]]> Mon, 04 Feb 2019 07:23:17 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120352#120352 50 or 30 amp : Thank You Furpod and +1 Tars.... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120331#120331 Author: mcarter
Subject: 12558
Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 3:58pm

Thank You Furpod and +1 Tars. If this is what we have to look forward to, this forum serves no purpose but a few individuals who want to ensure we all know how gifted they are. Repeatedly. Not impressive.]]> Sun, 03 Feb 2019 15:58:32 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120331#120331 50 or 30 amp : Gentlemen, I know it's... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120327#120327 Author: furpod
Subject: 12558
Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 3:13pm

Gentlemen, I know it's winter, few are here, and there isn't much camping content to post up, so we are getting anxious to talk/discuss/argue ANYTHING camper/camping related.

Let's try to let this thread go..

Go do mods or something and start some new threads.
]]> Sun, 03 Feb 2019 15:13:10 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120327#120327 50 or 30 amp : Tars, we disagree. I would... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12558&PID=120325#120325 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12558
Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 2:31pm

Tars, we disagree.  I would say "respectfully" disagree but really that is a pejorative use that implies the other person is full of baloney, which you are certainly not.  

Three points:
1.  My intent is far from intending to be condescending regarding the use of the 50/30A dogbone but to be informative.  If you don't like the outcome, then you are certainly free to so as you please.  But at least you are now aware that the risk is a tad bit greater than you may have previously thought.

2.  I really don't care if you choose to use a dogbone and burn up your trailer and sustain a financial loss. [Well actually I do, but not a lot.]  But you are really wrong in your statement that if you cause some kind of a disaster from it's use "you'll suffer the consequences" as though the other people are not relevant to the equation.  In the last two years, over 100 people lost their lives and thousands lost everything they had because of runaway electric fires that wiped out California towns.  [We were camping in Calistoga in our Pod the day the Tubbs fire started.]  It is the victims of those fires who worry me far more than you or what ever you will suffer.  And it is not condescending to say there is a snowball's chance in hell  you would have the resources to help even one of these victims.  In other words, Tars, you aren't taking a risk just for yourself, you are risking the lives of others in spite of a manufacturer's warning; with a risk of a nearly unimaginable order of magnitude.  Please don't come to our western forests and use your 50/30A dogbone.

3.  As for who may or may not be following this thread.  I really don't know who reads it.  It is obvious who has written in it, but I don't believe there is a total read count available.  So if my cautions and the cautions of others who are informed on this issue stop someone from accidentally starting a fire, it was time well spent.  
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