R-pod Owners Forum : Rant of the day http://www.rpod-owners.com/ This is an XML content feed of; R-pod Owners Forum : Miscellaneous / Off-topic : Rant of the day Copyright (c) 2006-2009 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 02 May 2026 08:58:15 +0000 Fri, 14 Dec 2018 17:09:13 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.64 360 www.rpod-owners.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=12377 R-pod Owners Forum http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png http://www.rpod-owners.com/ Rant of the day : I just scanned through this fairly... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=118853#118853 Author: techntrek
Subject: 12377
Posted: 14 Dec 2018 at 5:09pm

I just scanned through this fairly quickly, and I'll note for marwayne that, as David said, you must be thinking of another forum.  The only posts or threads I've removed have been for spam and in VERY rare cases for a horrible post.  This forum started because of the censoring going on at the other pod forum at the time.]]> Fri, 14 Dec 2018 17:09:13 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=118853#118853 Rant of the day : Bump http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117930#117930 Author: Guests
Subject: 12377
Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 7:26pm



Bump]]> Wed, 07 Nov 2018 19:26:53 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117930#117930 Rant of the day : http://www.rpod-owners.com/f... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117656#117656 Author: Guests
Subject: 12377
Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 8:01am



http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12379&title=thousand-trails-long-beach-wa


Above, I think we have a winner for the “Poster Child of Good Posts” award! If you have not looked at it, I recommend it. Great post with beautiful pictures and well laid out. They obviously put some time/effort into giving the rest of us something to look at and enjoy.

To make a point, here is how the replies to that post should NOT go:

Member#1 reply – Great pictures! They remind me of the weather in Djibouti!
Member#2 reply – Djibouti …they have some of the best bacon on the planet!
Member#3 reply – Bacon is good but, the peach pie in Georgia is out of this world!
Member#4 reply – Georgia’s football team hasn’t been very good this year.
Member#5 reply – Football is for wimps! Real men watch the Canadian Hockey League!
Member#5 reply – Canada? Does anyone know if I can carry my firearms across the Canadian border?
Member#6 reply – Hey Jr., what kind of heat are you packing anyway?
David reply – Guys, we don’t do firearm discussions here. Member#5 – Consult the Canadian Border Patrol web site for an answer to your question.
All members reply – OPPRESSIVE NAZI MODERATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See what I mean? The OP's work/effort was just blown off and the comments/replies had nothing to do with their post. SAD! Yet all "legal", with the exception of the firearms posts. We are better than that.

Go get 'um furpod!


now where did I leave my 5 gallon bucket of Prozac??????

]]> Sun, 04 Nov 2018 08:01:32 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117656#117656 Rant of the day : Buhahahahaaa!(it's temporary,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117655#117655 Author: furpod
Subject: 12377
Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 7:42am

Buhahahahaaa!



(it's temporary, I just wanted to see if I could do it. BUT.. feel free to think about what I just did, and when I undo it, post your thoughts.. because this is pretty much the only way a moderator could do what is being discussed, and remain partially sane)
]]> Sun, 04 Nov 2018 07:42:05 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117655#117655 Rant of the day : Who's going to be the "thread... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117647#117647 Author: Guests
Subject: 12377
Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 5:31am


Who's going to be the "thread police"?

You are.

Something like this is impossible to legislate/rule make and even more so to moderate/enforce.

As furpod pointed out, there is not a lot of moderator intervention here on the forum. We all enjoy a great deal of freedom as a result. However, freedom is a double edged sword. With freedom comes the obligation to exercise it responsibly.

If nothing else, I think we can learn from this thread that everyone views "drift" and "hijacking" a little differently. Some don't like it at all. I believe most are tolerant of a certain amount of "drift". On the other hand, not every thread should become a discussion, for instance, about the weather in Djibouti (or some subject other than the OP's).

That said, the weather in Djibouti is certainly worthy of our contemplation and discussion - so much so that it probably should be in it's own thread.

When a member opens a thread/discussion, they are in effect saying "I would like us to talk about "this" and I feel it important enough to go to the effort of opening a discussion". We should try to respect that and the person.

Again, nobody is being gagged or censored. I hope that we all can be thoughtful, sensitive and respectful of each other, while enjoying the forum.

Who are the thread police?



You are!


]]> Sun, 04 Nov 2018 05:31:01 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117647#117647 Rant of the day : As long as we're discussing... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117646#117646 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12377
Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 4:47am

As long as we're discussing behavior which is perceived as rude or inappropriate, let's take a poll.

Those of you who think thread drift/hijacking is bad behavior raise their hands...

Now, those of you who think shutting down a thread with comments like "thats enough on this topic" is bad behavior raise their hands...

Both of these things happen frequently on this forum, and in all forms of human communication for that matter. 

Anyone here ever take a Myers-Briggs personality test? This and several similar methodologies have been used for decades to improve workplace team performance. One of the 4 dimensions in the M-B evaluation is associated with how you prefer to interact with the outside world.

From the M-B tutorial:

"Everyone takes in information some of the time. Everyone makes decisions some of the time. However, when it comes to dealing with the outer world, people who tend to focus on making decisions have a preference for Judging because they tend to like things decided. People who tend to focus on taking in information prefer Perceiving because they stay open to a final decision in order to get more information.

Take a minute to ask yourself which of the following descriptions seems more natural, effortless, and comfortable for you?

Judging (J)

I use my decision-making (Judging) preference in my outer life. To others, I seem to prefer a planned or orderly way of life, like to have things settled and organized, feel more comfortable when decisions are made, and like to bring life under control as much as possible.


Since this pair only describes what I prefer in the outer world, I may, inside, feel flexible and open to new information (which I am).


Do not confuse Judging with judgmental, in its negative sense about people and events. They are not related.


The following statements generally apply to me:

  • I like to have things decided.
  • I appear to be task oriented.
  • I like to make lists of things to do.
  • I like to get my work done before playing.
  • I plan work to avoid rushing just before a deadline.
  • Sometimes I focus so much on the goal that I miss new information.

Perceiving (P)

I use my perceiving function in my outer life. To others, I seem to prefer a flexible and spontaneous way of life, and I like to understand and adapt to the world rather than organize it. Others see me staying open to new experiences and information.


Since this pair only describes what I prefer in the outer world, inside I may feel very planful or decisive (which I am).


Remember, in type language perceiving means "preferring to take in information." It does not mean being "perceptive" in the sense of having quick and accurate perceptions about people and events.


The following statements generally apply to me:

  • I like to stay open to respond to whatever happens.
  • I appear to be loose and casual. I like to keep plans to a minimum.
  • I like to approach work as play or mix work and play.
  • I work in bursts of energy.
  • I am stimulated by an approaching deadline.
  • Sometimes I stay open to new information so long I miss making decisions when they are needed."

Any of this sound familiar? I suggest that our positions in this debate about drift vs hijacking would correlate very well with where each of us would be on the M-B test on the Judging vs. Perceiving scale.

The point is that there isn't a right or wrong, it's just human personalities doing their thing in the ways that work best for them. And, diversity is one of the keys to success in a high functioning team, as long as the team members recognize their own strengths and weaknesses and the value brought by others who think differently. 

So, being mostly a Perceiver, I don't particularly like getting shut down on a thread, but I don't take it personally, because I know that that is just that individual's personality showing through, and I see the value of his or her approach and expertise. And I need a gentle nudge now and then, and so do Judgers who are jumping to conclusions too quickly.  That's my $0.02.
]]> Sun, 04 Nov 2018 04:47:55 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117646#117646 Rant of the day : Originally posted by lostagain...and... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117639#117639 Author: Live2Camp
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 10:16pm

Originally posted by lostagain

...and we all have a little anarchy in our hearts.  


Well said! Thank you. 
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 22:16:17 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117639#117639 Rant of the day : I appreciate and share the concerns... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117638#117638 Author: Live2Camp
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 10:14pm

I appreciate and share the concerns for manners and courtesy. I don't share the view that thread drifting and hijacking are the same. The former is what happens so often with people, that a thread topic reminds someone of something related even though it doesn't look that way. And that when someone else comes along and posts in line with the original topic, either chimes in or doesn't if they don't have anything to contribute. Not an ego trip, just a human trip. Or maybe a human stumbling socially, but with no malice :-) Thread hijacking ... pretty sure we all recognize that when we see it. I've only been reading this forum since 2016 when I got charmed into the RPod world smiling and agreeing; and have only been a member since 2017. But in my experience with forums I can say that this is absolutely one of the most "straight ahead while still amiable" and USEFUL forums I've ever been on. Besides which, a little thread drift helps us keep our situational awareness and mental map-reading skills sharp as we strive to come back to the original topic :-) ]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 22:14:47 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117638#117638 Rant of the day : So, who’s going to be the thread... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117631#117631 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 6:45pm

So, who’s going to be the thread police?  And what constitutes unacceptable drift.  It's not fair to ask the moderators to have to keep threads precisely on the topic nor is it fair to them that they should have to take the heat for deleting posts that may drift too far off topic.  

 

We don't all have to march in a straight line.  If someone strays off a bit, big deal.  It isn't going to hurt anyone.  You aren’t required to read the posts if they drift too far off topic for you.  This is a discussion board.  Discussions, by their very nature drift all over the place.  Going off on a tangent in response to someone else drifting a bit off topic is hardly an ego trip or a maliciously motivated effort to offend the original poster.  It's a human conversation and that's the way humans work.  

 

There are those who think in more digital concepts with a more black and white view of the world where there is a right answer and a wrong answer. On the other hand, there are others who think in fractals and fussy logic and see shades of gray, where there are simultaneously multiple right answers, depending on your point of view. If you have trouble with thread drift, stop reading it when it goes off topic.  As another member noted: after a certain number of posts on a topic you've already gotten most of what anyone has to offer on the topic.  After that, it is just fun conversation.

 

Opinions are what this board is full of, and, should be.  Everyone who tries to help offers his/her opinion. Whether it's the best WHD, whether one is needed or not, what the best TV is, 2 - 6v batteries or 1 - 12v, the list goes on ad nauseam.  There is hardly a single post that doesn't offer an opinion, and, I dare say, almost all are offered in good faith.

 

Happy and Mike, no one is trying to be rude.  No one is trying to hijack someone's thread.  It's just that we are all human.  We color outside the lines.  It's done in a desire to share thoughts and have some fun sharing what we have all learned about r-Pod trailers and life, especially as it pertains to our experiences enjoying these little bouncy rolling homes. 

 

Remember, just because we start a thread, does not mean we have some proprietary interest in it.  To the contrary, it is for everyone on the board.  For myself, I enjoy seeing one of the threads I start carry on for pages and pages drifting off topic as long as people are enjoying it.  This is a virtual social group and we are social animal, and we all have a little anarchy in our hearts.  

]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 18:45:10 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117631#117631 Rant of the day : +1 Happy Tripping , the object... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117630#117630 Author: mcarter
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 5:29pm

+1 Happy Tripping , the object was to help, not convey your own opinions.]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 17:29:03 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117630#117630 Rant of the day : Originally posted by mcarterDavid,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117629#117629 Author: Happy Tripping
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 5:25pm

Originally posted by mcarter

David, Thread drift is normal....My 2 cents.

In my opinion, there is absolutely no difference between thread drift and hijacking. 

In both, there is no longer any interest in the problem or concern raised by the original poster. 

Both are mere ego trips, going off on their own path. 

Both would be perfectly appropriate if they had their own threads. 

Both are rude, in my opinion.
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 17:25:14 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117629#117629 Rant of the day : David, Thread drift is normal.... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117627#117627 Author: mcarter
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 5:06pm

David,

Thread drift is normal. It's just a comment. Or maybe several but it doesn't take away from the original post. It doesn't add multiple pages to a post. Hijacking a thread occurs when one or more individuals commenting on the original posting, go off topic, creating a separate conversation. This is rude, and bad internet etiquette. If people want to discuss a different topic, they should start their own thread. That's the urban dictionary definition of it. Right now we have an OP saying OK go back to your other conversation, same thread, multiple posts in a thread that have nothing to do with the topic. The thread is hard to follow, I find myself going back on posts to see what the OP said to assist. What is the real goal of forum? To allow folks to talk about issues or to give a voice to people who like to post a lot. Without consideration to topic. I appreciate educated, intelligent folks, you don't need to convince me on every post, mellow out. I don't see the forum as a Chat Room, maybe that is my bad. I'll take hit for that. I try to answer the OP, then back off and see if there is a follow on. My 2 cents.]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 17:06:36 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117627#117627 Rant of the day : Originally posted by GlueGuyThe... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117625#117625 Author: Guests
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 4:38pm

Originally posted by GlueGuy

The curious thing is that a certain amount of thread drift is actually productive. What I mean is that with all the best of intentions, someone is commenting in-context on the main topic of the thread, and then throws in an off-hand (or maybe not off-hand) comment in an orthogonal direction, and suddenly we are in thread drift or something quite different. However, if it is really bringing up something that we or at least 2 people feel is worthwhile discussing, it will spawn another thread that we can then corrupt for entirely different reasons.
Thread drift is a knife that cuts both ways.


Interesting. One question in my mind is:

What is the difference between "thread drift" and "hijacking" someone's thread?

I think most can understand drift. On the other hand, hijacking has traditionally been considered quite rude. Hijackers seize a thread and post comments that have absolutely nothing to do with the OP's comment/questions/remarks.

So, fellow members, your thoughtful comments, please.



]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 16:38:08 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117625#117625 Rant of the day : All teens think they're immortal,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117622#117622 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 2:48pm

All teens think they're immortal, and until the current climate of helicopter parenting became popular, they sometimes didn't make it through to adulthood. But nearly all did and on the way they had to learn how to make better decisions for themselves so were much more likely to be prepared for that adulthood than the current crop typically are.  We like to complain about all the time teenagers spend now playing video games but if they aren't allowed to have any real world fun because just maybe something bad could happen, who's actually to blame? ...anyway that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it...

Gotta love clever lawyers....but.... not in NZ, they have quite unique tort law. 

http://www.med.or.jp/english/pdf/2008_01/058-060.pdf. 

One reason that high risk sports like commercial bungee jumping originated there, nowhere else in the  world could a startup have gotten insurance for it.


]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 14:48:49 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117622#117622 Rant of the day : Like I say, personal responsibility... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117620#117620 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 2:27pm

Like I say, personal responsibility is not currently in fashion among many people.  

One would think that before leaping, one would look to see what the landing situation is like, but some, teens especially, think they are immortal.  And often they find out the hard way that they break when subjected to sufficient physical forces.  

As for the tragic death of Mr. Smith, one can understand being driven temporarily insane by the loud music, thus, his conduct, though not wise, is understandable.  In fact, a clever lawyer might even be able to convince a jury that some form of payment by those making the noise to the heirs of Mr. Smith would be justifiable on the basis of comparative fault.
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 14:27:55 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117620#117620 Rant of the day : lostagain, you walk up to a rusty... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117618#117618 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 2:10pm

lostagain, you walk up to a rusty ole hand pump in a little bitty campground in WV and start pumping it. After awhile water comes out. You have no idea how long its been since it was last used. Are you going to just chug the first water that comes out or are you going to pump it for awhile to clear it, then give the water a look, a smell test, and finally a taste test before drinking it down? Glad to hear I wouldn't incur any liability. I'd still feel like if I saw you I should mosey on over and let you know about the bleach though. 

Aptos Creek where it runs into Seacliff Beach is a trickle a few feet wide and a few inches deep except after a winter storm. Trust me, you can see the bottom just fine all summer long. Like in the water pump case, are you going to just dive in head first from 10 feet up or are you going to walk on out there and see how deep it really is? 

Anyhow, we've probably expended enough bytes of data on these potential Darwin Awards candidates by now...


BTW, here is an actual Darwin Winner that can remind us to always disconnect our power cords from the pedestal before the trailer:


(14 January 2015, New Zealand) Finally some rest for Matthew Smith, 26, killed while trying to silence noisy late-night music at the Whangaruru Beachfront Motor Camp in Oakura.

Loud teenage tunes blared out from the neighboring caravan for hours, making sleep impossible! Half an hour after midnight our exasperated Darwin Award winner, a sound and lighting technician, set out to sort out the problem with a metal Leatherman tool.

The coroner determined that Mr Smith disconnected the power cord from the caravan, then tried to sever the plug from the cord whilst the other end was still connected to the campground power box. At 3AM he was found dead with the Leatherman tool fused to his hand, along with a half-cut power cord.

Ironically, the rowdy teenagers had battery-powered lamps and speakers so the loss of power was not immediately investigated. The person who found Matthew nearly became another Darwin Award winner, received a nasty shock upon touching the smoking body! This person then went on to unplug the live cord !! from the power box before calling emergency services.

Police were satisfied that there was no foul play. The power authority was satisfied with the condition of the campground power source. A Ground Fault Circuit Interruptor (GFCI or RCD) would have saved Matthew's life, but such are required only at new campsite installations. The coroner recommended RCD's be installed at all New Zealand caravan parks to protect people from harmful electric shocks.

"The reality here is that the disconnection should have been at the power box, not the camper van," said Fire Brigade Deputy Chief Gallagher.


]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 14:10:44 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117618#117618 Rant of the day : The curious thing is that a certain... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117612#117612 Author: GlueGuy
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 12:12pm

The curious thing is that a certain amount of thread drift is actually productive. What I mean is that with all the best of intentions, someone is commenting in-context on the main topic of the thread, and then throws in an off-hand (or maybe not off-hand) comment in an orthogonal direction, and suddenly we are in thread drift or something quite different. However, if it is really bringing up something that we or at least 2 people feel is worthwhile discussing, it will spawn another thread that we can then corrupt for entirely different reasons.

Thread drift is a knife that cuts both ways.
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 12:12:47 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117612#117612 Rant of the day : Nothing is changing around here... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117610#117610 Author: Guests
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 12:07pm



Nothing is changing around here folks. Change would require effort/work and, as mentioned in another thread, I try to avoid that as much as possible.

Unless it is posted by one of the moderators, it is an opinion of one of our members. However, marwayne makes a valid point about "thread drift" and was brave for posting. On the other hand, I don't think it is a "fixable" problem. Some amount of "drift" can be good, as some have pointed out. It's going to happen, just like in voice conversation.

I'm confident that I can speak for the other moderators in that none of us are looking for more work to do and/or opportunities to "police" the forum.




]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 12:07:33 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117610#117610 Rant of the day : Its a borehole fitted with a hand... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117607#117607 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 11:53am

Its a borehole fitted with a hand pump. I asked the guy how deep it was and he wasn't sure. I know the water table isn't more than 15-20 feet, it only takes about 8-10 strokes to bring up the water. 

So TT you could be right, could be a deep well with a shallow water table, which would create a large water volume to quickly dilute the bleach. They are required to test it once a month and they come by the day before and bleach it. 

The water there is discolored and full of iron and sulphur anyhow. I wouldn't drink it bleach or no bleach. Some campers do though. My dog likes the flavor, but then...he's a dog. 
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 11:53:53 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117607#117607 Rant of the day : Originally posted by furpod Originally... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117606#117606 Author: Guests
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 11:50am

Originally posted by furpod


Originally posted by David


furpod

I know that I have deleted 2-3 persons (one of them is still here - under another user name). PM me if you want to know. I don't specifically recall deleting any their posts but, I may have - if the post was bad enough and I was mad enough! I can say with 100% certainty that is was not marwayne. In fact, I think one of the "deletes" was an individual that repeatedly insisted upon trying to insult you.

You are too easy on these folks. You need to dust off your axe and lop off some heads!



Yes.. that was the one I was referencing.. really, the only one I remember.. but maybe just because I was involved in it...


I think the first "delete" was doing the same thing with member "Outbound", as yourself - being personally insulting to him, several years ago. The third was last year, when a member refused to stop posting religious matter. All were warned and defied the warnings. Both Outbound and yourself were defending yourselves admirably but, my position is - why should you HAVE to. Also, the other members should not be subjected to the offenders' obnoxious behavior. This falls under that general clause in the rules "anything we find objectionable".

I probably shouldn't have mentioned that because....now you might delete ME!   


]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 11:50:09 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117606#117606 Rant of the day : Furpod/David, The only one I... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117605#117605 Author: mcarter
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 11:49am

Furpod/David,

The only one I can recall is the member who started a big brouhaha, then signed on with an additional account to support himself. Techntrek caught the IPs were the same.]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 11:49:12 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117605#117605 Rant of the day : Regarding bleach in the well,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117602#117602 Author: Tars Tarkas
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 11:34am

Regarding bleach in the well, a long time ago, through my ex-wife's family, we had an in-holding in a National Park.  Our cabin was part of a community that had it's own water system.  I was good friends with the community caretaker and would often tag along as he did is chores.  The water system was all gravity-flow, from a spring house way up the mountain.  One of the caretaker's duties was, once a week, to go to the spring house and pour a quantity of bleach in the collection tank.  This was based on someone's oversight requirements.  I think it was the Park Service, but I'm not sure at this point.  But someone required regular maintenance on the water system since it supplied water to more than X number of cabins.

The holding tank might have been about a hundred gallons.  It had a sand filter and some kind of leaf/bug skimmer too, that were cleaned weekly.  I don't know if it would have bothered anyone to drink from the tank right after the bleach was added, but I don't think anyone ever tasted or even really smelled it by the time it got to their cabin. 

I don't know what kind of well this was in the campground mentioned above.  Bleach in a drilled well, which has a diameter of 6", I guess, is normal periodic maintenance, but you're supposed to let it sit for a while and then flush it through your system before drinking the water.  In a hand-dug well I imagine there would usually be at least 100 gallons of water at the bottom, so diluting a pint of bleach in there might not be a big deal.  It probably is good periodic maintenance though.

TT
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 11:34:08 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117602#117602 Rant of the day : I defended lawsuits for over 30... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117600#117600 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 11:27am

I defended lawsuits for over 30 years in California before entering the corporate law world, so I'm a bit biased toward the defense.  I recall the Sea Cliff case.  There the issue was how obvious was the danger.  Sometimes water depth can be deceptive in certain light conditions, which is often why people, apart from just plain stupidity, dive into shallow water. 

Personally, I think that we tend to over warn and it loses its effectiveness.  We need to teach personal responsibility, but that is not a popular concept among many these days.  I can't discuss this further without running afoul of our no politics, guns, religion, etc. rule.

As for the guy who drinks the water from the manual pump in WV, how would he know about the bleach?  So where would he be abdicating his responsibility for his own well being by drinking water from a source represented as for human consumption?  Can't say for WV, but in CA there is no third party liability for failure to warn about a condition you did not create.  Thus, offgrid, you're off the hook on that one, at least from a legal point of view.  

As for quantum physics, I like to read about it, at least from a lay person's point of view, but every time I start reading it changes from wave to particle, or vis-versa and I get confused.
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 11:27:27 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117600#117600 Rant of the day : Originally posted by David furpod I... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117596#117596 Author: furpod
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 11:15am

Originally posted by David


furpod

I know that I have deleted 2-3 persons (one of them is still here - under another user name). PM me if you want to know. I don't specifically recall deleting any their posts but, I may have - if the post was bad enough and I was mad enough! I can say with 100% certainty that is was not marwayne. In fact, I think one of the "deletes" was an individual that repeatedly insisted upon trying to insult you.

You are too easy on these folks. You need to dust off your axe and lop off some heads!





Yes.. that was the one I was referencing.. really, the only one I remember.. but maybe just because I was involved in it...
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 11:15:49 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117596#117596 Rant of the day : So if you were adjudicating a... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117595#117595 Author: offgrid
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 11:08am

So if you were adjudicating a tort claim brought by the "dumbbell" who chugged the bleached water, how would you apportion liability among the tortfeasors? Would I incur liability for not keeping my eye out for him and running right over to let him know not to drink from that well? 

When I was in college in the early 70's my summer job was as a  park aid for the California dept of parks. A teenage girl at Seacliff Beach dived off a 10 ft high breakwater into the creek there where the beach began, hit the bottom and was paralysed from the neck down. Very sad case. But the water there is clear and 6 inches deep. One of my jobs was to put up all the signs saying "NO DIVING - SHALLOW WATER" that were part of the settlement after the family sued the state. That was when I began to feel the train was going off the rails...just sayin'. 

If you want to resurrect softwares that were crushed by Microsoft's monopoly 30 years ago there are lots of good ones. I thought we were talking about products people actually use...

Takes a special kind of person to actually enjoy quantum mechanics, most normal people don't like its implications much at all, Einstein included, hence his famous quote: "God does not play dice with the universe". He was wrong though, quantum mechanics has been validated over and over since then, but no underlying theory has yet removed the randomness that bothered him so much. 




]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 11:08:41 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117595#117595 Rant of the day : One of the peccadillo's... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117594#117594 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 10:48am

[QUOTE=crw8sr] One of the peccadillo's that bugs me is members who don't include their location in their information.  Don't know why, can't explain it, it just does.  .........But I carry on.

I agree.  I'm for full disclosure.  I think I'm one of the only ones who puts his full name at the bottom of the post as well as my home town.  I also use my real name in my Washington Post comments.  So far, no one has bothered to bomb my house or launch a mortar attack.  
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 10:48:31 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117594#117594 Rant of the day : Originally posted by lostagainI... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117593#117593 Author: Live2Camp
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 10:41am

Originally posted by lostagain

I hope Leo was suggesting that he was done with the un-drifted topic, not with the board. 

Same here! 
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 10:41:20 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117593#117593 Rant of the day : Originally posted by Tars... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117592#117592 Author: Live2Camp
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 10:40am

Originally posted by Tars Tarkas

Well, I'm not going to quit over this, because I've been around long enough to know 3 things in life are certain.  Death, taxes, and thread drift. 

Agreed! I've been using on-line forums for a long long time. Decades even. Among the very first things I learned was to "ignore" and to use the delete key. I think it's great that MarWayne posted and I have no complaint with that, it's a good reminder from time to time. Most of us strive to stay on track and then being humans, sometimes wander off the exact topic onto stuff that is related but not necessarily obviously so. I understand the concerns about searching the archives but you don't need the thread name to do that. I think others' comments here about how this is common, why it's important to keep coming back to old threads with new info, etc. etc. are spot on. Thanks to our moderators and to all participants, I personally get a lot of good information being here. Far, far more than I'm able to share but hopefully over time that will change. Most of all I sure hope no one leaves the forum over this! 
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 10:40:02 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117592#117592 Rant of the day : I find the forum to be just fine... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117591#117591 Author: crw8sr
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 10:35am

I find the forum to be just fine the way it is.  I read in depth the stuff I'm interested in, speed read others and skip some entirely.  

One of the peccadillo's that bugs me is members who don't include their location in their information.  Don't know why, can't explain it, it just does.  .........But I carry on.

I'm thankful for a place for where others freely post great information and really cleaver mods.
]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 10:35:48 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117591#117591 Rant of the day : I hope Leo was suggesting that... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117590#117590 Author: lostagain
Subject: 12377
Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 10:31am

I hope Leo was suggesting that he was done with the un-drifted topic, not with the board. ]]> Sat, 03 Nov 2018 10:31:01 +0000 http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12377&PID=117590#117590