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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus : Our heartfelt condolences. </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7746" rel="nofollow">crw8sr</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 Oct 2018 at 5:49pm<br /><br />Our heartfelt condolences.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus :  Originally posted by doxieloverThank...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 Oct 2018 at 7:02am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by doxielover</strong></em><br /><br />Thank you all for your advice, tips, etc.  At this point, I've decided to give up RVing.  I am a recent widow and just sold our 33' motorhome.  My husband and I were fulltimers.  A friend just pointed out to me that it will not be the same without my husband.  I still have all our memories of our travels that I will cherish and I will continue to travel, just not in an RV.  Thanks again.</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Let me echo the sentiments of others in condolence.  I think you are wise in taking a step back from pursuing a travel trailer, for now.  When I got divorced, about 19 years ago, I sold my 5th wheel, being certain that I would never camp again.  After 3-4 years however, the idea began to grow to give it a try again, as it was something that I had enjoyed since my youth. <br /><br />I pulled my old tent out of mothballs and headed out.  Yes, it is different - just as much of the rest of life is different after such an occurrence.  I ditched the tent, in favor of a pop-up.  Then I ditched the pop-up in favor of the Rpod.  It is still "different"/not the same.  Not better or worse, just different, even after all of this time.<br /><br />In time, you may decide to return to camping or, you may not.  The "right" answer is the one that is right for you.  Regardless, I hope you feel free to hang around here on the Forum and share your stories and camping experience/wisdom with the rest of us.  <br /><br /> ]]>
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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus : doxielover, so sorry for your...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 Oct 2018 at 5:20am<br /><br />doxielover, so sorry for your loss.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>At some point, if you change your mind and want to get away and enjoy some of that lovely AZ weather in the outdoors with something easy and simple that you can tow nicely with your current vehicle, you might check out the Nucamp TAG.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Best of luck to you.</div>]]>
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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus : My condolences on your loss. When...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 11:44pm<br /><br />My condolences on your loss. When we were at the 10th Anniversary Rally hosted by the Kentucky MiniMini, we saw a number of women traveling solo with R-Pods. I agree with Fred &amp; Maria that now is the time to step back and grieve. Later, you may desire to revisit the idea of getting a small trailer and traveling with it. There may be new models then that will be even more suited for you.]]>
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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus : doxielover, it must be a very...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 9:05pm<br /><br />doxielover, it must be a very sad loss for you. &nbsp;Traveling with someone you love makes it a truly joyous experience. &nbsp;Your friend is right, it won't be the same without your husband. &nbsp;After some time has passed and you have a chance to heal form this awful loss, maybe then it would be a good time to revisit the issue, but for now. &nbsp;You need to refocus your life. &nbsp;Best of luck to you.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8904" rel="nofollow">doxielover</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 8:43pm<br /><br />Thank you all for your advice, tips, etc.&nbsp; At this point, I've decided to give up RVing.&nbsp; I am a recent widow and just sold our 33' motorhome.&nbsp; My husband and I were fulltimers.&nbsp; A friend just pointed out to me that it will not be the same without my husband.&nbsp; I still have all our memories of our travels that I will cherish and I will continue to travel, just not in an RV.&nbsp; Thanks again.]]>
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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus :  Here&amp;#039;s the best possible...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 7:29pm<br /><br />Here's the best possible TV ever: &nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isetta" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isetta</a>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus : A semaphore type 1 VW is worth...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 7:07pm<br /><br />A semaphore type 1 VW is worth its weight in gold now if restored though....wish I still had my '56 bug...or better yet my old 1960 Westy bus, first RV I ever owned.&nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus :  Originally posted by offgridVery...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 6:56pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br />Very kewl.  Postwar German 3 wheel microcar. I've seen the Messerschmitt before but not one of these. Messerschmitt claimed to get 87 mpg, not bad for the 1950's. Yeah those look like turn signals, the early VW's had semaphore turn signals at the same location.  What's the tow rating on that bad boy and can you use a WDH on it? <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0" alt="T&#111;ngue" title="T&#111;ngue" /></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Tow rating???  I don't need no stinking tow rating!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It's whatever I want it to be......I suppose.<br /><br />I saw one of the old bugs with the "pop out" turn signals for sale, a few days ago.  It was a little more "project" than I would want to take on, however.  <br /><br />]]>
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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus : Room to carry those Honda duals...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 6:53pm<br /><br />Room to carry those Honda duals too.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 6:48pm<br /><br />Very kewl.&nbsp; Postwar German 3 wheel microcar. I've seen the Messerschmitt before but not one of these. Messerschmitt claimed to get 87 mpg, not bad for the 1950's. Yeah those look like turn signals, the early VW's had semaphore turn signals at the same location.&nbsp; What's the tow rating on that bad boy and can you use a WDH on it?&nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0" alt="T&#111;ngue" title="T&#111;ngue" />]]>
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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus :  Originally posted by doxieloverI...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 6:31pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by doxielover</strong></em><br /><br />I recently purchased a 2015 Toyota Highlander LE Plus with the assumption and being told by the sales person that it had a tow capacity of 5,000 pounds.  Now that I'm checking the manual, it says only 2000 towing capacity.  I'm heart sick.  Have I truly messed up?  Is there a way to fix this?<div></div><div>Diana</div><div>Future Rpod 179 owner<div></div><div></div></div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />I was a little heart sick (in sympathy) when I read this.  I think your mention of returning to the dealer is a good first step.  Explain the problem, as you have above, and see what (if anything) they might be willing to do to help.  Maybe, trusting what offgrid says about the equipment needed to upgrade to 5K towing specifications, they might (keep fingers crossed) be willing to negotiate on those upgrades.  You'll just have to see what they are receptive to.<br /><br />I hope all goes well and that you will keep us up to date, as the situation develops.  <br /><br />]]>
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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus :  Well, not all of us wish to conform...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 5:45pm<br /><br /><br />Well, not all of us wish to conform to traditional standards and thought.  I've been shopping for a new TV for some time and this is my current prospect:<br /><br /><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/332840827312" target="_blank">https://www.ebay.com/itm/332840827312</a><br /><br />I just don't want to drive a gas guzzling 4 cyl. all the time, when I'm not towing.  I think, with the right hitch setup, I can make this thing work.  Also, I'm rather smitten by the idea of having the turn signal lamps (I think that is what they are) on the "B" pillar - kind of unique!  <br /><br /> <img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 17:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 4:15pm<br /><br />And I can swing right around my new front porch (now 13 feet higher to avoid hurricane flooding) thanks to my nice maneuverable&nbsp;little SUV TV. Color matched to the RPod too. And get 1/2 the fuel burn and a nice crisp car like ride when not towing. 2 each his own as they say...<img src="https://i.postimg.cc/L5QpM3yL/IMG-2912-2.jpg" height="612" width="816" border="0" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=936" rel="nofollow">furpod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 3:33pm<br /><br /><div>Go big or stay on the porch... That's how we roll...</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://postimages.org/" target="_blank"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/KY9fPtpj/20170508_151001_zpsvmx2wgjb.jpg" border="0" /></a><br></div><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 2:44pm<br /><br />+1 And if the Cumquat is unibody then forget it&nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 2:40pm<br /><br /><div>I would add that an individual should be at least conversant with the terms and issues. Those who have been on this forum for any amount of time know that we get these kinds of questions all the time. Usually of the form: "I just bought an R-pod XYZ. It's empty weight is 2800 lbs. Can I tow it with my Yugo Cumquat that is rated for 2801 towing capacity?" <br></div><div><br></div><div>And we go downhill from there... <br></div>]]>
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   <title>Tow Vehicle - 2015 Toyota Highlander LEPlus : I&amp;#039;m not suggesting any particular...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 1:17pm<br /><br />I'm not suggesting any particular member of the forum is biased.&nbsp; Just a general trend. Its the old school way to tow, so proven and dependable, and understandable, but not for everyone.&nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I agree that any vehicle you want to put a WDH on needs to be approved for that, as well as the specific hitch receiver. Don't care if its unibody or body on frame, either can be fine if designed for the application and not if they're not. Tacomas are body on frame but most only have a 3500 lb tow rating.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Here is an interesting read for all you body on frame truck guys. Explains why SUV's (and the Honda Ridgeline) can do it while conventional pickups are more challenging:</div><div><br></div><div>https://jalopnik.com/mid-size-trucks-dont-need-frames-1785674405</div><div><br></div><div>I agree that FWD is not the best option for towing, and I wouldn't do it myself, but I stop short of telling others that they can't.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I do think the best thing we can recommend to folks when selecting a tow vehicle and trailer combo is to use the GVWR of the trailer as a guide, not the empty weight, and use 15% of that figure for the tongue weight, not the "suggested" tongue weight or whatever the silly number in the trailer specs is. And to check all the limitations on both vehicles (axle ratings, GCVWR, tongue weight ratings, and to try to allow at least a little headroom on all these. I think the trailer loading calculator we've forwarded links to can be very helpful as well, particularly for the effects of the WDH.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>All this takes some time for new owners to digest but its really needed information for safety I think. Not understanding it is a lot like going flying without knowing your aircraft weight and balance are in the envelope, you can die if you screw it up.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>What really bugs me is how someone like the guy in mcarter's article can go to an RV dealer, buy an obviously oversized trailer for his TV, and then have them charge him to install a brake controller and a WDH on it, and then watch him roll out of the dealership with his new rig. IMHO in a fair world that guy should lose his business license, but I know that's not going to happen. As lostagain says, caveat emptor.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 12:25pm<br /><br /><div>I don't think I was advocating "American body on frame" at all, nor was I bashing Toyota. We have owned numerous Toyota (trucks though) over the years. They make fine vehicles. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I will say that if you are going to attempt to tow a significant trailer, then you should be very cautious about a FWD vehicle, and for sure you will want a WDH if that's what you're going to attempt. Further, I would caution about attempting to add a WDH to a unibody-type vehicle. I'm not saying that it can't be done, but it is an issue. Having both FWD and unibody is kind of like "two strikes".<br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 11:35am<br /><br /><span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">GlueGuy, I wouldn't personally tow anything heavy with a FWD vehicle either.&nbsp;</span><div><span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"><br></span></div><div><span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">That doesn't make Toyota's ratings invalid. Or any of the other mid sized SUV's in this category either. Like the 2017 Chevy Traverse for example. 2000 lbs towing with V6 and no tow package,&nbsp; 5200 lbs with the V6 and tow package whether AWD or FWD. And it looks like all the tow package is is a heavy duty radiator, a receiver hitch, and a trailer connector.&nbsp;</span></div><div><br></div><div>So y'all need to get over this, its just the way this market segment is. I'm not biased toward Toyota, they have to earn my business every day. So far they have. But I do detect a bias against towing with anything other than good American body on frame trucks among some folks here.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>That's fine, but let's not scare off folks that choose to buy an rPod because they want to tow with a more car like vehicle that the feel meets their daily needs better.&nbsp; That's OK too if done properly. Let's instead help them to be realistic about what their trailers really weigh loaded and what gear, like a wd hitch they need, how to set it up properly, and how to operate their rigs safely.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>They clearly often don't get that education from their RV or car salespeople. Might jeopardize a sale if they told them the truth, heaven forbid&nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><br><div><span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"><br></span></div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 10:41am<br /><br />mcarter, the LEplus trim level comes with the V6.&nbsp;<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">And yes you must have the V6&nbsp; to get the 5000 lb rating, but doxielover's car is still only rated at 2000 lbs because no tow package. I know you're searching for something more to explain the 2000 vs 5000 lbs butin this case its really just the tow package, same as with Jeep, and probably most of the other makes.&nbsp;</span><div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"><br></div><div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">lostagain, the verbal misrepresentation argument is just a price negotiating tool, not something you can litigate. Getting things written into the sales contract is the way to go, for sure. These guys know that and will fight that tooth and nail. When I bought my used Highlander I did my mechanical inspection and noted that the coolant level was low, so I insisted that they repair that if it turned out to be a real problem. I had to start walking out the door to get that written in, and I had to write the language myself. Luckily there was no problem so I didn't have to try to enforce that contract clause...</div><div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"><br></div><div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">The best way is to verify everything you think is important yourself prior to completing the deal. Just follow this sage old advice: is he (or she) a salesperson? Is his (or her) mouth moving? Then he (or she) is lying... And just walk out if you don't like the deal, you're not going to hurt their feelings. Most of the time they'll follow you out and drag you back in, their livelihood depends on their making sales.&nbsp;</div><div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"><br></div><div style=": rgb251, 251, 253;"><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8904" rel="nofollow">doxielover</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 10:34am<br /><br />Yes I have the 6 cylinder motor.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 10:25am<br /><br /><div>+1 to what lostagain says. Anything, ANYTHING that a sales person says without written backup becomes hearsay in a court of law or even a warranty claim. So when you hear something that the sales person says in the form of capability or whatever, make a note of it, and make sure it is mentioned in the sales documentation. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I would add, that regardless of what anyone says, I would never try to tow with a front-wheel-drive vehicle unless it was a light utility trailer or some such.<br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 9:25am<br /><br />And if a sales person makes a representation about some characteristic or quality of the vehicle that's important to you, such as towing capacity, especially if you have suspicions that it may be, well let's say,&nbsp;"less than correct," note it in the sales contract. &nbsp;Remember, the contract supersedes everything the sales person says, as is specifically stated in practically every vehicle sales contract, so his/her puffery is nothing more than blue sky. &nbsp;To prove fraud in the inducement to enter into a contract and void it would cost you more than the price of the vehicle.<div><br></div><div>I've noticed in the last couple years a trend in business to be less and less honest. &nbsp;What we call in the legal biz "sharp practices" (i.e. cheating) is getting more and more common and the recourse you have is getting less and less. &nbsp;This is true with even the large companies that used to value their reputations. Now they just say tough luck, we're a big company and we can do what ever we want to you. &nbsp;Few have the resources to fight them. We are returning to the days of Caveat Emptor, so watch out.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 9:19am<br /><br />Looking at Toyota sites, it appears the 5K tow capacity is linked to the 3.5L motor.  That makes sense to me.  The tow capacity remains constant for AWD and FWD, and is considerably less with the 4 cyl motor.  Acknowledge the tow package as discussed.  Seems to be standard in the mid size SUV market.  My Hyundai SUV has an increased tow capacity with the 3.5L motor.  I imagine Jeep does something similar.  Doxielover - do you have a 3.5L motor?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 4:56am<br /><br />doxielover, so you never have to find out the hard way again that a salesperson/owner has misrepresented a vehicle to you, here's a little tip: write down the VIN. It will be on the paperwork but also you can confirm that the same number is on the driver's door sticker or on the front of the dash where it meets the windshield on the driver's side. Call the parts department of any dealer for that make, read them the VIN, and they will be able to look up exactly what came from the factory on that vehicle. Saves a lot of time too when you're shopping for vehicles outside of your local area. Dealer or owner installed options won't show up of course.&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2018 at 3:44am<br /><br />doxielover, sorry for your dillemma, and even more sorry that we're causing you more stress with our little internal forum debates.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>You'll find that everyone has their favorite tow vehicle, its kind of like sports teams. Heck, we even like to argue about the pros and cons of rDomes on here.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Despite some of the opinions expressed here, plenty of folks happily tow rPods with Highlanders and similar vehicles. Others wouldn't tow a tiny yard trailer with anything smaller than a 3/4 ton pickup. And most folks wind up changing vehicles as they gain experience, so what you're going through is not that unusual.&nbsp;</div><div><div><br></div><div>So please keep plodding forward, you'll get to a good place in the end.&nbsp; My advice when you are in discussions with your dealer is to focus on the misleading sales pitch you got regarding tow rating of your Highlander, rather than the AWD. Not that you don't want the AWD,&nbsp; but that will likely come just because a FWD Highlander with the 5000 lb tow package is going to be a rare bird. If in the end they offer to find you a FWD one, THEN tell them you want the AWD as well.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck!</div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Oct 2018 at 6:11pm<br /><br />All this makes me glad I'm plugging away with my little old Dodge Dakota. &nbsp;Nice and stable on the road, enough power to make it up the steepest of hills (if I take my sweet time), cheap to buy, relatively easy to maintain. &nbsp;It's old, has lots of miles but keeps on truck'in. &nbsp;And, I get to visit a lot of really nice gas stations along the way.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0" alt="C&#111;nfused" title="C&#111;nfused" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Oct 2018 at 4:49pm<br /><br />I too would like to hear from the OP on whether she has the FWD or the AWD version.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I really don't think there is anything for Toyota to explain, and neither do millions of other Highlander owners, lots of whom tow and some of whom are on this forum (besides me). I think I would have noticed if my front wheels had departed the pavement, and I have about 100 lbs more tongue weight than that guy claims he did.&nbsp; So all I can conclude is that either he was lying or he was way overweight because he tried to pull a huge trailer (way bigger than an rpod) and/or he had something wrong with the way his wd hitch or brake controller was set up. Either way, just another guy looking for a handout who doesn't want to take personal responsibility for his actions. World is full of them.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>But, we all have our favs I guess. No doubt if you choose to tow with a midsized unibody SUV as I have there will be limitations on what you can and can't do vs a heavier body on frame vehicle. To each his own, and the great thing about the rPod is it allows the choice. If you put in the effort to become knowledgeable, I was for example astounded about the misinformation out there about wd hitches and their effects, and had in the end to do the statics calcs myself to be sure I had it right.&nbsp;</div><div><div><br></div><div>As far the Jeep was concerned (also a unibody vehicle) if there was an explanation of the 2000 vs 4500 lb tow variation in the "small" Cherokee I missed it then. So I looked it up now and after some searching found that there is a "tow prep package" which looks like it includes (Jeep doesn't advertise what's in it):</div><div><span style="color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-size: 14px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-size: 14px;">Oil</span><span style="color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-size: 14px;">&nbsp;</span><a href="http://i.viglink.com/?key=8416c68f16052281bf306ee0f27cc45c&amp;insertId=94d744429881388f&amp;type=CD&amp;exp=60%3ACI1C55A%3A17&amp;libId=jnut8bxx0100k8og000DAb6x7usnb&amp;loc=https%3A%2F%2Fjeepcherokeeclub.com%2F337-towing-towed%2F194705-what-2017-cherokee-trailhawk-towing-package.html&amp;v=1&amp;iid=94d744429881388f&amp;out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amaz&#111;n.com%2Fs%2Fref%3Dnb_sb_noss%3Furl%3Dsearch-alias%253Dautomotive%26field-keywords%3Dcooler&amp;ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&amp;title=what%20is%20in%20the%202017%20cherokee%20trailhawk%20towing%20package%20-%202014%2B%20Jeep%20Cherokee%20Forums&amp;txt=%3Cspan%3Ecooler%3C%2Fspan%3E" target="_blank"><span style=": transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">cooler</span></a><span style="color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-size: 14px;">, extra tranny cooling,&nbsp;</span><a href="http://i.viglink.com/?key=8416c68f16052281bf306ee0f27cc45c&amp;insertId=aca2964a87814691&amp;type=CD&amp;exp=60%3ACI1C55A%3A17&amp;libId=jnut8bxx0100k8og000DAb6x7usnb&amp;loc=https%3A%2F%2Fjeepcherokeeclub.com%2F337-towing-towed%2F194705-what-2017-cherokee-trailhawk-towing-package.html&amp;v=1&amp;iid=aca2964a87814691&amp;out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amaz&#111;n.com%2Fs%2Fref%3Dnb_sb_noss%3Furl%3Dsearch-alias%253Dautomotive%26field-keywords%3Dhitch&amp;ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&amp;title=what%20is%20in%20the%202017%20cherokee%20trailhawk%20towing%20package%20-%202014%2B%20Jeep%20Cherokee%20Forums&amp;txt=%3Cspan%3Ehitch%3C%2Fspan%3E" target="_blank"><span style=": transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">hitch</span></a><span style="color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-size: 14px;">&nbsp;receiver, 4 and 7 pin wiring, full size spare. There is also extra sway&nbsp;</span><a href="http://i.viglink.com/?key=8416c68f16052281bf306ee0f27cc45c&amp;insertId=da602d503dec9833&amp;type=CD&amp;exp=60%3ACI1C55A%3A17&amp;libId=jnut8bxx0100k8og000DAb6x7usnb&amp;loc=https%3A%2F%2Fjeepcherokeeclub.com%2F337-towing-towed%2F194705-what-2017-cherokee-trailhawk-towing-package.html&amp;v=1&amp;iid=da602d503dec9833&amp;out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amaz&#111;n.com%2Fs%2Fref%3Dnb_sb_noss%3Furl%3Dsearch-alias%253Dautomotive%26field-keywords%3Dc&#111;ntrol&amp;ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&amp;title=what%20is%20in%20the%202017%20cherokee%20trailhawk%20towing%20package%20-%202014%2B%20Jeep%20Cherokee%20Forums&amp;txt=%3Cspan%3Ec&#111;ntrol%3C%2Fspan%3E" target="_blank"><span style=": transparent; border: 0px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">control</span></a><span style="color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-size: 14px;">&nbsp;programmed in. And shorter final gearing.</span></div><div><br></div><div>Hmm...sounds pretty familiar, but at least Toyota also gives you a bigger radiator and cooling fans, and a full size spare is standard....but dang them, they don't give you a 7 pin connector, the scoundrels!</div><div><br></div><div>Re the rear brakes on my Highlander, they were hot because the trailer brakes weren't doing anything to help stop the rig. Controller gain was set way too low and one brake wasn't working at all. Problem solved now hopefully.</div></div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12355<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Oct 2018 at 4:37pm<br /><br />Doxielover,<br /><br />Not convinced you are done yet, lot of forum discussion over the vehicle, looks to me like you will need a WDH and still not sure what engine option you have?  From your original post I take you are not in the deal on a Pod yet, so time to fix.]]>
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