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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : Unfortunately, a few days ago,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Jun 2021 at 6:17pm<br /><br />Unfortunately, a few days ago, mine was still working. It sold right before I realized I needed a new one. That's the breaks!]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling :   Originally posted by riotkayak284Just...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1146" rel="nofollow">jato</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Jun 2021 at 11:54am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by riotkayak284</strong></em><br /><br />Just had mine replaced.... It took from Feb to last week for it to come in.... Huge backorder from Dometic.<br><div></td></tr></table> <br></div><div><br></div><div>You should have ordered it from me.&nbsp; Had a brand new one for sale in the campers flea market section for the past few months.&nbsp; Just sold it 2 days ago for $ 450.&nbsp; A great deal !<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><br></div>]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : Just had mine replaced.... It...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5298" rel="nofollow">riotkayak284</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 Jun 2021 at 11:21am<br /><br />Just had mine replaced.... It took from Feb to last week for it to come in.... Huge backorder from Dometic.<br>]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : Yes, we did have the cooler with...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 May 2021 at 7:46pm<br /><br />Yes, we did have the cooler with us. I noticed it getting warmer and warmer. I did not look at the flame when I shut it off. I cleaned the orifice and when I went to restart it, then it was dead. It has power on AC and DC (I do know enough to check those). Propane is sufficient also. I'm afraid the electronics went bad on me. Given the age, a replacement is probably the best option. That will have to wait until we get home.<div><br></div><div>As stated, I did have the FPSC cooler. I purchased a Lifetime ice cooler which is a cheap Yeti knock-off, but at a much more reasonable price.&nbsp; Right now, we are at our daughter's house so we are just using the FPSC cooler until we leave. Since the FPSC cooler is energy efficient and can keep proper temps, even in a hot environment, it was holding our meats and other really perishable items with the refrigerator holding those not needing as much temperature stability. The ice chest is an okay substitute, but things do need to be sealed so they won't fill up with water as the ice melts.</div><div><br></div><div>For now, the refrigerator has become additional pantry space since it won't be able to be used for cold things.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2021 19:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : Stephen, did you have backup cooler...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2297" rel="nofollow">fwunder</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 May 2021 at 7:30pm<br /><br />Stephen, did you have backup cooler when it happened? Mine (propane side) pooped out while boon docking several years ago in Maine. About half way through a 10 day trip. I was lucky I had a big cooler with us and could get ice. It hasn't happened since, but now I never travel without a cooler. We're foodies.<div><br></div><div>I'll be curious what you come up with.</div><div><br></div><div>fred<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2021 19:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling :   Originally posted by offgridDometic...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 May 2021 at 7:18pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by offgrid</strong></em><br /><br />Dometic also sells a Danfoss based 2 way fridge that is very close in volume to the ones in our rPods. Looks like its about 3 inches shorter (doesn't have that control panel on top) slightly shallower, but about an inch wider. Not sure if it could be made to fit or not, but if anyone wants to research it further I'd be interested in hearing what you find out.&nbsp;<div><div><br></div><div>http://www.suremarineservice.com/Galley/CRX-Black-Flush-and-Space-Saver-Models/CRX-1110U-F.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwu5veBRBBEiwAFTqDwZoBVHZJgtyujtuVtW4aKuvBPp63IYkePXtIVNpfWoKO1diiOfNxXxoCF78QAvD_BwE</div></div></td></tr></table>This topic is a bit old, but it has suddenly become current for me. We are traveling, and our RM-8501 has totally failed. No lights, no sounds, nothing!<div><br></div><div>Has anyone replaced the Dometic RM-8501 with one of these? If so, how well did it fit? If not, what are other models people have tried successfully? We have the Free Piston Sterling Cooler working and it, plus an additional small Lifetime Ice Chest are providing for refrigeration needs for the remainder of our trip. However, there is no freezer capability.</div><div><br></div><div>I like the idea of the Dometic CRX or other equivalent refrigerators if there is one that will fit the space with minimal modification. I don't know if I want to go with another absorption refrigerator given the issues I and others have had with them. Have the compressor models proven to be reliable? If so, that may be the way I will go.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2021 19:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : I think the reasons to consider...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 Oct 2018 at 6:19am<br /><br />I think the reasons to consider changing to a Danfoss compressor electric fridge are:<div><br></div><div>If you want to stop using propane for refrigeration while boondocking and use solar instead.</div><div>Works like a smaller version of your household fridge, so:</div><div>&nbsp;Better temperature control&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;Better cool down capacity (but using more electricity)</div><div>&nbsp;Better cooling in hot climates (but using more electricity)</div><div>Probable longer life (absorption fridges eventually corrode internally and leak ammonia coolant)</div><div>Aren't sensitive to being kept level</div><div>If you are afraid of driving with propane on and also afraid of forgetting to change from 12V to propane at your destination and draining your house batteries.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>But if like most people you're happy with what came with your rPod then there's no reason to change.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Personally, I'll consider changing over if I still have my rPod when its refrigerator fails.&nbsp; I've had two other RV's where the absorption fridge failed, one was about 15 years old and the other about 8. 10 years seems to be a pretty common life expectancy. They're not cheap.&nbsp; Levelling whenever you stop for any length of time helps.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2018 06:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : Coming in late on this but propane...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1146" rel="nofollow">jato</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 Oct 2018 at 5:47am<br /><br />Coming in late on this but propane only since our purchase in 2011, well over 27,000 miles logged and no problems encountered.&nbsp; Only time we don't use propane is if we happen to be at a campground that offers electric.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2018 05:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : Looks like the smaller Norcold...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8600" rel="nofollow">offgrid</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 Oct 2018 at 3:52am<br /><br />Looks like the smaller Norcold dual 12V/120V fridges now use the Danfoss BD series compressors. Danfoss has been making them for decades and they have a very good reputation, especially in marine applications where many folks don't like propane due to ventilation issues.<div><br></div><div>They are vapor compression cycle so much more energy efficient and temp stable than the absorption type RV fridges we have now, probably about 4X more efficient. Downsides are smaller interior volume and increased electric demand vs using propane as the energy source. Looks like TAB also offers a larger standard RV absorption cycle fridge as well.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Dometic also sells a Danfoss based 2 way fridge that is very close in volume to the ones in our rPods. Looks like its about 3 inches shorter (doesn't have that control panel on top) slightly shallower, but about an inch wider. Not sure if it could be made to fit or not, but if anyone wants to research it further I'd be interested in hearing what you find out.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>http://www.suremarineservice.com/Galley/CRX-Black-Flush-and-Space-Saver-Models/CRX-1110U-F.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwu5veBRBBEiwAFTqDwZoBVHZJgtyujtuVtW4aKuvBPp63IYkePXtIVNpfWoKO1diiOfNxXxoCF78QAvD_BwE</div></div>]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling :   Originally posted by mjlrpodThe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=4814" rel="nofollow">StephenH</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 Oct 2018 at 10:03pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by mjlrpod</strong></em><br /><br />The T@B campers coming out now the fridge only runs on battery. Even when you are on shore power, that charges the battery only from what my dealer told me. Not sure how great that works. But it will end this argument if all manufacturers do this.</td></tr></table>If it is a Danfoss compressor refrigerator or a Free Piston Sterling Cooler compressor, then it should be quite energy efficient. If it is like the 12V heater in the absorption refrigerators, then it is an energy hog. The only way I could see this work is if it would be the former rather than the latter scenario.<br>]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : Thanks Keith.  I appreciate that...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Oct 2018 at 6:28pm<br /><br />Thanks Keith.  I appreciate that info.  Good point.]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : Mike, with a propain tank the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=807" rel="nofollow">Keith-N-Dar</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Oct 2018 at 6:19pm<br /><br />Mike, with a propain tank the gas feed shuts off sometimes even if you open the valve to fast.&nbsp; In an accident the supply will shut off unless the hit is so hard it ruptures the tank.&nbsp; Then it hardly matters if the tank is open or not.]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : Andy and all.  I know this is...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Oct 2018 at 5:09pm<br /><br />Andy and all.  I know this is a very active post.  I personally have been anti traveling with propane ON.  First let me say I don't think anyone is going to catch fire going down the road as has been suggested.  I don't think anybody is going to catch fire at a gas station. I do think the there is the off chance of an accident involving your TV and TT exists.  And if it does there's a safety factor in that you have an open propane line.  So my only question and concern is what shuts that propane off in the event of something happening, something that opens that propane line with other issues. Maybe I'm just a fatalist, maybe just a goofball, I won't address it anymore.  As I have said I survived a propane incident.  It's the one time event that changes life not the hundred times nothing happened. I don't want change the world views, and when the worst scenario happens there is no safety factor to an open propane source. Period.]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : I had much the same concerns,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8038" rel="nofollow">Andy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Oct 2018 at 3:54pm<br /><br />I had much the same concerns, but after a 5 day trip to northern New Mexico at ~ 9,600 feet and no refrigerator (Dometic only guarantees lighting less than 5,500 feet) on our next 3 week trip through Colorado, Arizona and Utah I ran it continuously and no problems.&nbsp; I did park at gas stations so that my 179 rear end was away from any pumps.&nbsp; I have a 20lb tank and replaced 2.8 gals after day 15 on the road.&nbsp; I also travel with a 60 liter ice chest, a block of ice and a bag of ice cubes just in case.&nbsp; also, that refrigerator is not the largest one out there so extra storage of cold items like milk, juice or beer is worth it.<div><br></div><div>in short I have switched camps to the propane "On" side.</div>]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : My fridge temp guage does not...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Oct 2018 at 3:22pm<br /><br />My fridge temp guage does not support propane is colder.  I can't disagree an uncharged battery is an issue, but that is another issue.]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : I hope not. The battery doesn&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8361" rel="nofollow">OldNeumanntapr</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Oct 2018 at 3:05pm<br /><br />I hope not. The battery doesn’t keep it as cold as propane. Plus, it might wear out the battery sooner if more was required of it.]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : The T@B campers coming out now...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6126" rel="nofollow">mjlrpod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Oct 2018 at 2:17pm<br /><br />The T@B campers coming out now the fridge only runs on battery. Even when you are on shore power, that charges the battery only from what my dealer told me. Not sure how great that works. But it will end this argument if all manufacturers do this.]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling :  Originally posted by CharlieMLook...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5021" rel="nofollow">TheBum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Oct 2018 at 1:55pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by CharlieM</strong></em><br /><br /><div><font size="3">Look carefully and you'll see the fourth light does not mean fully charged. It indicates the battery is <em>being</em> charged. Shortly after disconnecting shore power the fourth light will extinguish. That said, the whole four light panel is still worthless. A safe interpretation of the four battery lights is:</font></div><div><font size="3"></font></div><div><font size="3">Four lights - Battery is being charged and converter is working.</font></div><div><font size="3">Three lights - Battery is present in some reasonable condition.</font></div><div><font size="3">Two lights - Battery might be present but condition is unknown.</font></div><div><font size="3">One light - You left the battery at home. </font></div><div><font size="3"></font></div><div><font size="3">The tank level indicators are also worthless. Install a SeeLevel monitor system and a digital voltmeter wired directly to the battery. Camp on.</font></div><br /><br /></td></tr></table> <br />Not quite, but I appreciate the humor. If the battery wasn't there then there would be no LEDs because you need some voltage to run the LEDs. The top LED is probably the only useful one on that panel because it shows the state of the converter. You're much better off with a gauge that shows voltage to determine the battery charge state.]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : Charlie is right. The indicator...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Oct 2018 at 1:16pm<br /><br />Charlie is right. The indicator is not much more than a dashboard idiot light. If it shows full (all 4 lights on), you are most likely plugged in with the converter in one of its charge modes. If when you unplug the shore power and you still have 4 lights, you are most likely fully charged.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1941" rel="nofollow">podrunner</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Oct 2018 at 12:43pm<br /><br />Here we go again, one of our favorite topics...]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1573" rel="nofollow">CharlieM</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Oct 2018 at 11:37am<br /><br /><div><font size="3">Look carefully and you'll see the fourth light does not mean fully charged. It indicates the battery is <i>being</i> charged. Shortly after disconnecting shore power the fourth light will extinguish. That said, the whole four light panel is still worthless. A safe interpretation of the four battery lights is:</font></div><div><font size="3"><br></font></div><div><font size="3">Four lights - Battery is being charged and converter is working.</font></div><div><font size="3">Three lights - Battery is present in some reasonable condition.</font></div><div><font size="3">Two lights - Battery might be present but condition is unknown.</font></div><div><font size="3">One light - You left the battery at home. <br></font></div><div><font size="3"><br></font></div><div><font size="3">The tank level indicators are also worthless. Install a SeeLevel monitor system and a digital voltmeter wired directly to the battery. Camp on.<br></font></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2018 11:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8741" rel="nofollow">broncoman_2000</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Oct 2018 at 9:50am<br /><br />Here is the follow up to the post from Friday.&nbsp; When I reset the flame on the fridge it never went out again, so no worries there.&nbsp; However, I think the battery monitor on the R-Pod is worthless.&nbsp; When I was plugged into the house, I had full battery.&nbsp; The moment I unplugged, it dropped to 2/3 full.&nbsp; I drove for 1 hour and it remained there.&nbsp; I parked for 4 hours, running the fridge on propane the entire time.&nbsp; I drove for another hour, got to my destination, the flame was still lit, and the battery was still 2/3 full.<div><br></div><div>I boondocked for Friday thru Sunday.&nbsp; Running the bathroom fan on low the entire time for airflow in the camper, and minimal lighting (was worried about the battery with the fan running full time) when I packed up on Sunday, I was still at 2/3 full.&nbsp; Drove home for 2 hours and still 2/3 full</div><div><br></div><div>Looks like a new battery monitor is in order, but the fridge works flawlessly on Propane, while driving, and boondocking.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Oct 2018 at 8:13pm<br /><br />lostagain,<br /><br />Absolutely was.  Love your closing argument.]]>
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   <title>dometic refrig while traveling : Did somebody say cold beer? That&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8361" rel="nofollow">OldNeumanntapr</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Oct 2018 at 8:03pm<br /><br />Did somebody say cold beer? That’s all I heard. ;)<br /><br />TIC<br /><br />Very well written and thought provoking. ]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2018 20:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Oct 2018 at 6:34pm<br /><br />mcarter, were you a boy scout? &nbsp;<img src="https://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><div><br></div><div>Sparks that can ignite vapor while fueling can come from pretty much anywhere, including the TV, a cell phone, the switch supplying energy to the electric heating element of the fridge, or just good old static electricity. &nbsp;Given the very few explosions around gas pumps, these events are statistically insignificant &#091;I found no reports of such explosions on Google, and if it ain't in Google it doesn't exist&#093;. &nbsp;The same is true with explosions around gas pumps due to a &nbsp;travel trailer fridge running on propane. &nbsp;They just don't happen often enough to be an issue of real concern. &nbsp;If someone has spilt a bunch of gasoline in the pump area, you are in as great a danger of a fire just driving in as you are with your fridge running as you pull to the pump. &nbsp;Moral of the story, if you see spilled gas, don't drive near it, with or without a trailer.</div><div><br></div><div>The question is not one of safety but what kind of hydrocarbon you want to burn to power your refrigerator. &nbsp;No one has discussed how much energy it takes to generate the electricity from your TV and send it down copper wires to heat a heating element in the refrigerator. &nbsp;Do you use more energy burning the propane than gasoline to turn the alternator of your TV? &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>My intuition tells me that burning gas to turn the flywheel of an internal combustion engine, which in turn drives a pulley belt, which in turn has to spin the bearings in the alternator, then sending those excited electrons down the copper wire with what ever ohms of resistance, depending on wire size, is likely to be less efficient. &nbsp;But if we really want to fully understand the energy consumption, we have to go back to when the petroleum upon which the propane and gasoline were based. &nbsp;What energy was expended to pump and refine them? &nbsp;Which used less energy getting to the point of distribution. &nbsp;Does the gas have ethanol, which has a negative energy balance &#091;that is it takes more energy to produce it that it yields&#093;? &nbsp;How much extra energy did you consume going to Tractor Supply to buy the propane? &nbsp;How many calories did it take to pressurize the propane in your tank and pump it from the mother tank? &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The point is there is no right or wrong answer because we don't know all the variables that go into producing a watt of energy for the fridge. &nbsp;Advanced &nbsp;planning to use electricity is not an issue of being prepared and using the most efficient system, it's a matter of being well prepared to send the electrons scurrying from your alternator to the fridge without burning up the wiring on your vehicles. &nbsp;Using propane isn't any better because it, too, can present unplanned ignition and combustion issues.</div><div><br></div><div>For me, I don't want to spend the money on a heavy duty electric system for my little old Dodge Dakota with a stock alternator. &nbsp;There is no discernible benefit in the cost/benefit analysis. &nbsp;On the other hand, if I had a $65K Dodge diesel that came with an alternator big enough to light up Las Vegas, and 6 awg wire to a convenient plug in the back of the truck and my pod was wired with similar wire from the battery to plug into the truck wire, I'd probably use it, notwithstanding the ultimate energy use calculation. &nbsp;&#091;edit. - I forgot to mention my dream truck would have a 15 amp AC plug, so I could run the refer on AC and not worry about 6 awg. wire.&#093;</div><div><br></div><div>So to everyone, use what you have, enjoy it and don't look down on the other guy who likes to do something different. &nbsp;At the end of the day &#091;an over used cliché&#093;, we all want a cold refrigerator so the beer doesn't get warm.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Oct 2018 at 5:03pm<br /><br />Lostagain,<br /><br />We agree.  For those of us that have planned and an have adequate battery systems, we don't have a discharge issue.  It is a great system and a statement of planning and being prepared.  For those of you that didn't or haven't propane on.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Oct 2018 at 4:54pm<br /><br />Battery is only easier if you have your TV and trailer wired for it. &nbsp;The little dinky wires in the bargman plug and cable, and probably your wire in TV are likely not adequate and you'll drain your battery fast. &nbsp;For those who have planned for battery power for the fridge while driving and have wired correctly for the current demand, it is a great system. &nbsp;But for those who are trying to run the fridge off the bargman plug, you'll find your taking out more electrons to run your fridge than you're replacing with the TV and when you get to your destination, you'll likely be short on battery power.<div><br></div><div>As for fueling, for situations where safety requires that the propane be turned off, there is no point in running on battery for those few minutes (and it also has spark potential in the switches). &nbsp;The fridge is well enough insulated that it will hold it's cold temp for way more time that it takes to refuel. &nbsp;And if the flame from the fridge is a fire danger, so is the ignition switch and other electric components in the TV that can also provide an ignition spark for fuel vapor. &nbsp;And they're a lot closer to the vapor source than the fridge flame. &nbsp;i don't think any common TV's are manufactured to mine safety spark specifications, but I've been wrong before.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7746" rel="nofollow">crw8sr</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Oct 2018 at 3:23pm<br /><br />Battery.&nbsp; Seems easier to me.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Oct 2018 at 3:01pm<br /><br /><div>You will find a split on this topic. If you search the archives, you'll find some go one way (propane), and others go the other way (battery). There are also a few who just don't run the fridge on the road or else keep stuff in a separate cooler.</div><div><br></div><div>We are in the battery contingent because we don't agree with having the propane valve open on the propane canister(s) while traveling <u><b>AND</b></u> our TV does a good job of providing enough power <u><b>AND</b></u> our TV disconnects the 12V auxiliary power when we turn off the ignition.</div><div><br></div><div>So I would evaluate those issues, and go with what you want.<br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8361" rel="nofollow">OldNeumanntapr</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12279<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 Oct 2018 at 2:23pm<br /><br />We run on propane exclusively except when shore power is available. I switch the fridge to battery when refueling IF the trailer is near gas pumps. But, if the pod is hanging out in the driveway away from the pumps I leave it on LPG.<br /><br />I had an issue on our last trip when the fridge failed to light on propane after being cooled down on electric at home but once I ran gas through the lines with a burner lit for a minute it worked fine.]]>
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