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   <title>No Warranty :   Originally posted by OldNeumanntaprWe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7439" rel="nofollow">DavMar</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2018 at 2:30pm<br /><br /><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr</strong></em><br /><br />We bought our 180 brand new this year, mostly to get a warranty.</div><div><br></div><div>Nothing major. We bought Locally, and our Local dealer REFUSES to answer emails or return calls. The service manager is ALWAYS out when I call. It's kind of ridiculous.</td></tr></table> <br></div><div><br></div><div>My sincere advice to you or anyone else who is experiencing a problem with your dealer is to call The R-Pod reps that handle warranty claims directly. There is no reason why you should put up with any dealer treating you that shabby. Take some time and read through the <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_topics.asp?FID=6&amp;title=warranty-service-and-recall-bulletins" target="_blank">Warranty, Service and Recall Bulletins</a> thread in this forum. Familiarize yourself with your state laws concerning RV's and warranty repairs which varies state by state. Also many independent RV repair shops will do warranty repairs and file the claim for you with your RV manufacturer. You might have to pay the difference between what the manufacture shop rate for the repair is and that independent shop rate charges but IMHO it can be more then worth it.</div><div><br></div><div> I often wonder why the manufactures of RV's don't realize that by not requiring their dealers to adapt to warranty system like car dealers they are just shooting themselves in the foot! How, well for instance would you be more apt to buy brand X RV if you know any dealer in the country will honor the warranty or brand Y RV under the present warranty repair system that is in place now? Lastly I would say if you get the chance complain to your State Representative about the abysmal warranty repair laws on RV's.&nbsp; <br></div>]]>
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   <title>No Warranty : That souns like a poor dealer....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=807" rel="nofollow">Keith-N-Dar</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2018 at 2:05pm<br /><br />That souns like a poor dealer.&nbsp; Ours did a great job prepping ours, and has been responsive for years to service issues even though we didn't get a more expensive RV.&nbsp; When buying new check out the dealer.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2018 14:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>No Warranty : We have had a different experience...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=7014" rel="nofollow">GlueGuy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2018 at 11:49am<br /><br /><div>We have had a different experience with our dealer. The day we picked it up they gave us a very thorough walk through that took almost 2 hours. They also spent around a 1/2 hour to 45 minutes going over the intricacies of the WDH and brake setup. I wasn't happy with the after-market (Teconsha) brake controller, but that was mostly esthetics, and they took back that brake controller without a fuss. I installed the Ford OEM brake controller myself and am happy with the way it fits right into the dash. <br></div><div><br></div><div>We had a couple of minor issues with the WDH, and the service manager gave us his personal cell number. He's given me advice, and met us on the lot one afternoon to verify that the WDH didn't have an issue for us.</div><div><br></div><div>So I guess everyone and every dealer varies quite a bit.<br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2018 11:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>No Warranty : Every owner and every&amp;#034;dealer&amp;#034;...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1008" rel="nofollow">Pod People</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Sep 2018 at 8:26am<br /><br /><div>Every owner and every"dealer" has a different story and approach.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;We bought a used pod from a local dealer.&nbsp; There was no warranty and we knew it and were well aware of the potential problems. The dealer prepped the unit very well and gave us a thorough walk through and demo.&nbsp; Everything worked when we picked it up.<br></div><div><br></div><div>shortly after purchase, our refrigerator died completely.&nbsp; both circuit boards were bad.&nbsp; We don't know the cause -power surge, lightning, bad boards, corrosion??????? Regardless, we had to replace the refrigerator.</div><div><br></div><div>We went back to our dealer and I think they did the very best that they could.&nbsp; They scheduled us immediately, ordered our new refrigerator and installed it within a week.&nbsp; we paid for the refrigerator and they"absorbed" the installation cost. I think that was a fair deal.</div><div><br></div><div>I feel like the dealer took care of us as best as they could.&nbsp; sure, we had a failed component on a used 2015 unit that we owned for a month.&nbsp; I was not happy with Dometic, but I have no issues with Forest River or the local dealer. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I understand what the dealers must do in order to stay in business.&nbsp; I think the most important thing is to work with a local dealer, be honest with each other and do business in a business like manner.&nbsp; check out the dealer for all aspects of the business, not just the lowest price.&nbsp; a bargin price&nbsp; is not always the best&nbsp; long term solution. A relationship matters.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Vann<br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2018 08:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>No Warranty : We bought our 180 brand new this...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8361" rel="nofollow">OldNeumanntapr</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Sep 2018 at 7:43pm<br /><br />We bought our 180 brand new this year, mostly to get a warranty. While, thankfully, nothing major has been wrong with the rPod, there are a few minor problems we have found. (A scratch in the table, a crack in the plastic faceplate of the power converter, and the caulking is separating at the top of the shower enclosure on the side wall.)<div><br></div><div>Nothing major. We bought Locally, and our Local dealer REFUSES to answer emails or return calls. The service manager is ALWAYS out when I call. It's kind of ridiculous. We payed $19,800 for ours brand new which was list price. They gave us $750 in trade for my '89 Coleman Sequoia tent trailer with EXTREME dry rot in the roof. (sight unseen.) Plus they gave us a $350 voucher for their parts dept for various things; a group 27 marine battery, a new ball hitch and bar, towing mirrors, and a brake controller. (I had to pay the installation $ for the brake controller.)</div><div><br></div><div>I thought at the time it was a fair deal but we could probably could have gotten a better deal in hind site. (Knowing from the past it is always harder when you have a trade in, especially one that the dealer doesn't want.) It still bugs me that they won't take care of the few small repair items we found. All of these items were noted the week that we bought the unit.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I sure wouldn't recommend Pacific RV on the CA Central Coast. I count myself fortunate that nothing major was wrong with the trailer. It was sure a different experience when buying a new vehicle. Is this par for the course when it comes to RVs? I have always purchased my campers used before. They don't hide the fact that they really only want to sell new RVs.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>We had a friend who bought a used cabover camper from Pacific Coast RV and he is NOT happy with them at all because they refuse to honor their written warranty.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>No Warranty : +1 to Lostagain, I bought used...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5187" rel="nofollow">mcarter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 Sep 2018 at 3:44pm<br /><br />+1 to Lostagain, I bought used with no warranty and fix my own issues.  Not for everybody.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>No Warranty : Moral of the story, buy a used...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6036" rel="nofollow">lostagain</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 Sep 2018 at 3:24pm<br /><br />Moral of the story, buy a used rPod in good condition. &nbsp;Take it to an independent RV repair shop for an inspection before you buy it. &nbsp;It's a big investment and the fee to give it a once over is well worth it. &nbsp;Sadly, there are many RV dealers out there who do not have the integrity one would expect and you cannot depend on their promises.<div><br></div><div>With a used pod, the warranty items should have been fixed or the problem should be obvious and the dealer should disclose un-repaired warranty items. &nbsp;Most people really don't use their new rPods so much that significant wear and tear will occur. &nbsp;Quick sales after purchase occur because either the owners realize that they are not using it enough to justify the investment, it's too small for their needs, or there are problems that they can't get fixed. &nbsp;If it's the latter, it's fraud to conceal them. &nbsp;Ask the seller whether there are any known defects or open warranty matters and confirm in the sales contract that there are none.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>No Warranty :   This subject matter comes up...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=2" rel="nofollow">Guests</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 Sep 2018 at 2:03pm<br /><br /><br /><br />This subject matter comes up from time to time.<br /><br />Sorry to hear about the troubles - really.  Unfortunately, the RV industry doesn't work like the automotive industry.  In a past post, I said that I do not refer to sellers of RVs as "dealers".  I think a more appropriate term is "retailer".  I believe the majority of sellers of RVs are single location/mom & pop type operations.  If they are going to devote their time and resources to you, they need to make some money.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Warranty work is likely a little or no profit situation for them.  It may be even a money losing proposition.  I suspect that the re-imbursement rate on warranty work is much less than their "retail" rate.<br /><br />Imagine that you and I are professional house painters who happen to use "Brand X" paint.  You paint someone's house, collect your pay and go on.  After a month, the owners who paid you are unhappy - the paint is pealing and you missed some spots.  They call me, as I also use "Brand X" paint and want me to come to their home and fix things - for FREE!  <br /><br />Even if the "Brand X" paint company agrees to give me free paint, I'm still out my time and losing in a big way.  I'm working for free when I could be earning a profit from someone else.  I still have to pay my own bills and employees while I'm not earning a profit.  <br /><br />Though I may feel very sorry for the home owners, I ain't working for them for nothing or at a loss.  I wouldn't be able to stay in business very long doing that.  <br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2018 14:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>No Warranty : I can get an R-Pod cheaper if...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5324" rel="nofollow">PilotPodder</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Sep 2018 at 7:47pm<br /><br />I can get an R-Pod cheaper if I am willing to travel to buy it, but warranty work becomes an issue if it is very far. Local dealers are not obligated to service your Pod or prioritize the work since you bought it elsewhere. So there is a trade-off buyers need to understand. I've bought both locally and at a distance. Buyers need to count the cost of service delays (or no service) into the money saved up front if they buy at a distance. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>On the other hand, my first R-Pod (New 2016 171) was bought locally and I had it in three times for the same problem, so not not all local dealers have similar skill sets in repairing items. The same local dealer gave me (a first-time RVer in 2016) a 15-20-minute walk-through, set up an E2 WDH with a Honda Pilot about as unlevel as can be (because they used the wrong shank, I discovered later), and made it a hassle to get any work done even under warranty. This is all to say, local is better only if it is, and you really can't use a broad brush in giving answers to this problem.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2018 19:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>No Warranty : Responding to several posts here:...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1653" rel="nofollow">Tars Tarkas</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Sep 2018 at 7:29pm<br /><br /><div>Responding to several posts here: It sounds like the Pod was bought in WV and taken either on a vacation or a move to Oregon.&nbsp; Why it's no longer in WV doesn't really matter.&nbsp; All camper trailers are meant to be moved from place to place, often over great distances.&nbsp; That's really kinda what their all about.&nbsp; So buying in Ohio and wanting warranty service at home in Florida isn't the issue here.&nbsp; The guy bought at home in WV (although that close to Crouch's... maybe he did buy it there.&nbsp; But that's not what he said, and I think the assumption should be that he bought it at home and took a trip with it to the west coast.&nbsp; Again, that's what one does with travel trailers.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree and want to emphasize that this isn't a Forest River problem, but one that's industry-wide.&nbsp; It's really kind of ridiculous that a travel trailer made by a company with the dealership network Forest River has can't manage warranty repairs anywhere but at the selling dealership.&nbsp; That doesn't change the reality of the situation for the OP though.</div><div><br></div><div>And another thing, what the heck is the deal with keeping a camper for 2.5 months for $118 in repairs.&nbsp; From what I've heard, that's not too atypical.&nbsp; If you took my truck in for warranty repairs and they kept if for 2.5 months there'd be hell to pay.&nbsp; I know people often don't use their trailers for months a time but they also have issues with them while they're on the road....</div><div><br></div><div>$118 for repairs that weren't covered under warranty...&nbsp; Well, I guess I might be a little miffed at having to pay, but I'd be frigging outraged that they kept my rig for over two months to do probably less than two hours work on it.&nbsp; (There were probably parts and materials, right?)</div><div><br></div><div>I got my Pod used, without a warranty, and, knock on wood, I haven't really had any big issues that were beyond my abilities to take care of.&nbsp; <br></div><div><br></div><div>It seems to me the OP has a legitimate complaint.&nbsp; Given the reality of the situation, his complaint probably should be directed at the dealer who sold him the Pod, but, bigger picture, the industry needs to do a lot better about honoring warranties beyond the selling dealer and they need to do better about service in general.&nbsp; Seems to me...</div><div><br></div><div>TT<br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2018 19:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>No Warranty : We bought two Forest River campers...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=428" rel="nofollow">David and Danette</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Sep 2018 at 6:39pm<br /><br />&nbsp; &nbsp;We bought two Forest River campers a r-pod in Ohio in 2009 and a Vibe in Alabama in 2013 at the time we were living in south Florida. Both campers were repaired under warranty in Fort Myers Florida at a Camping World service center. The warranty covered all expenses it cost us nothing and the work was done within a reasonable amount of time less than a month perhaps in about two weeks. Things may have changed it seems companies in general through out the country are trying to save money how ever they can. The RV industry too may be making changes to save money by not honoring warranty work as they use to.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=936" rel="nofollow">furpod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Sep 2018 at 5:58pm<br /><br />So you didn't buy at your local dealer, because you could buy somewhere else and save thousands, correct? Or did you buy, and then move to the other side of the country? <br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1442" rel="nofollow">P&M</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Sep 2018 at 4:51pm<br /><br />This is not an R-pod or Forest River issue ... it is prevalent across the entire industry unfortunately.  Dealers do not want to take on and do warranty repair work on units that they did not sell, period.  There is the occasional one that has a good rep, but those are very few and far between.<br /><br />Best advice ever given to me was to buy locally so that you had a dealer to go back to if there were issues (which we have never had fortunately).  Dealers will take care of "their" clients first and foremost.  It's just the way that it is.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=1100" rel="nofollow">Leo B</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Sep 2018 at 4:17pm<br /><br />+1]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=807" rel="nofollow">Keith-N-Dar</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Sep 2018 at 2:57pm<br /><br />You have a dealer problem.&nbsp; When we bought ours the RPod web page discussed this and advised purchase from a local dealer to fet warranty work.&nbsp; Our dealer also told us that warranty work was not available everywhere.&nbsp; And all functions were checked out and demonstrated to us before we left the dealership.&nbsp; Sorry you didn't have a similar experience.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8672" rel="nofollow">jKen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Sep 2018 at 1:44pm<br /><br />That is exactly my point -- when you buy the unit they tell you that you have a warranty that is good anywhere. &nbsp;That turns out to be false. &nbsp;I have contacted Forest River -- they don't seem very inclined to deal with it.]]>
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   <title>No Warranty : The only dealer that is ever &amp;#034;required&amp;#034;...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=598" rel="nofollow">kymooses</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Sep 2018 at 1:40pm<br /><br />The only dealer that is ever "required" to do warranty work for you is the dealer who sells it to you I'm afraid.<div><br></div><div>Camping World does often times sell R-Pods, as long as they were a certified Forest River service center you might be able to contact Forest River and have that bill taken care of for you.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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   <title>No Warranty : I believe if a dealer won&amp;#039;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5021" rel="nofollow">TheBum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Sep 2018 at 1:40pm<br /><br />I believe if a dealer won't honor the warranty that FR will reimburse you. That's not saying you'll get the full amount back: it depends on how much the dealer gouged you.]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8672" rel="nofollow">jKen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 12179<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 Sep 2018 at 1:09pm<br /><br /><img src="http://www.rpod-owners.com/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0" alt="Angry" title="Angry" />&nbsp; I was told by the dealer when I bought my R-pod, that my warranty was good anywhere in the country. &nbsp;This is absolutely not true. &nbsp;If you hit the road right after buying an R-pod you basically have no warranty. &nbsp;I bought my unit in West Virginia, and when I took it to a dealer in Portland, Oregon (Camping World) they kept it for 2 1/2 months and charged me $118.00 for the "warranty" work. &nbsp;We lost almost the entire summer. &nbsp;I also do not understand why a bran new unit had about 15 things wrong with it almost immediately. &nbsp;How does the selling dealer not pick up on any of these -- they were major items like the water heater not working, the bath exhaust fan not working, etc. &nbsp;R-pods have a wonderful reputation, but so far our experience has been very negative. &nbsp; &nbsp;]]>
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