Solar Questions
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Topic: Solar Questions
Posted By: mle
Subject: Solar Questions
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 1:54pm
What solar controllers are you using? Did you get the recommended Zamp or are you running different brands? Any preferences on controller and/or panels?
Did you get an inverter too?
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Posted By: john in idaho
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 2:45pm
The Zamp came ready to go, and since i am not an electrical engineer, It works fine. Amazon had them on sale for 600.
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Posted By: sailor323
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 8:54pm
The question is, 'Do you want "plug and play" or do you want something else?" I have installed 280 watts of solar power on our Pod for much less than the cost of Zamp. There are alternatives that fit everyone's needs
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Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 20 May 2017 at 12:54pm
I'm very familiar with DC solar systems. I have been building my own for remote communications facilities for over a decade.
I presume the zamp connector on an R-pod is connected directly to the battery (or batteries) with probably a fuse in between? If that's the case, then any external solar controller would probably work fine.
I've got a few spare solar panels laying around, and they are all nominally 24V panels (they actually put out between 30 and 37 volts, depending on manufacturer and load, etc).
My intention is to use one of my 150 watt panels, and connect it through a small MPPT controller set for a 12V system.
------------- bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 20 May 2017 at 3:28pm
Mine came with the wiring, but the connections were lacking. There are two wires, positive and negative that connect to the Zamp connector, but were never connected to the battery terminals. They were just wrapped with electrical tape. As far as I know, there is no fuse inline. If they are connected, the panels would need to have a charge controller. Your plan to use a controller is sound.
------------- StephenH
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http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
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Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS
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Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 21 May 2017 at 8:46am
I put my controller for my solar panel in a little plastic tool box that can sit right on top of the battery boxes when in use. I've got short pigtails off the battery to connect to short pigtails off the controller with mc4 connectors. I put circuit breakers on the + from the panel to the controller and from the controller to the battery, per Windy Nation instructions. The last three things I need to do are to drill some vent holes in the box, adjust the controller, and sacrifice a chicken.
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Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost
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Posted By: yakinator
Date Posted: 21 May 2017 at 3:00pm
Add bbq sauce to chicken and grill to desire. Then it's a win win.
------------- 2017 RPOD 180 named VentuRpod
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Posted By: mle
Date Posted: 22 May 2017 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by sailor323
The question is, 'Do you want "plug and play" or do you want something else?" I have installed 280 watts of solar power on our Pod for much less than the cost of Zamp. There are alternatives that fit everyone's needs
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Either is fine with me, I'm fair with electrical work. In the pod we are getting it has the camper friendly package; which apparently now a days that means it has a plug on the back and the wires that run to the battery. That's it. The dealer said, when I asked about the controller: "We don't have them anymore, but you can get them from other places pretty easily." 
I'm looking at the Renogy 200w (two 100w panels) with the Renogy wanderer controller. Will probably add in a fuse to that, and wondering if I should get an inverter too. I saw a really nice motor home setup in some of the Amazon reviews. But I'm a n00b when it comes to solar. Car wiring, I'll grumble but get it done.. Solar is new fangled stuff to me. 
Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Renogy-Monocrystalline-Solar-Starter-Wanderer/dp/B00BCRG22A/
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Posted By: mle
Date Posted: 22 May 2017 at 12:32pm
Originally posted by GlueGuy
I'm very familiar with DC solar systems. I have been building my own for remote communications facilities for over a decade.
I presume the zamp connector on an R-pod is connected directly to the battery (or batteries) with probably a fuse in between? If that's the case, then any external solar controller would probably work fine.
I've got a few spare solar panels laying around, and they are all nominally 24V panels (they actually put out between 30 and 37 volts, depending on manufacturer and load, etc).
My intention is to use one of my 150 watt panels, and connect it through a small MPPT controller set for a 12V system. |
When I looked at the wiring in the pod we are getting, it had an input plug on the outside, two wires that went in (prob about a foot long) and those connected to two other wires and were covered; I assume those are to go into the controller, no fuse. The other two wires went across the back of the trailer (behind the wood panel that covers the taillight wires), and ran around the side to the front, up to the batteries. Pretty simple setup. To be honest, I was kind of annoyed that they called this 'Solar Ready' and I was told by one of the sales guys that all I needed was the panels multiple times. Then to see how the wiring actually was, it was pretty irritating. Glad I found it before we brought it home though. 
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Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 22 May 2017 at 12:32pm
Originally posted by mle
I'm looking at the Renogy 200w (two 100w panels) with the Renogy wanderer controller. Will probably add in a fuse to that, and wondering if I should get an inverter too. | The r-pod has an inverter for all the stuff that needs AC, including all the convenience outlets. You should not need another one.
------------- bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost
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Posted By: sailor323
Date Posted: 22 May 2017 at 2:42pm
Originally posted by mle
I'm looking at the Renogy 200w (two 100w panels) with the Renogy wanderer controller. Will probably add in a fuse to that, and wondering if I should get an inverter too. I saw a really nice motor home setup in some of the Amazon reviews. But I'm a n00b when it comes to solar. Car wiring, I'll grumble but get it done.. Solar is new fangled stuff to me. 
Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Renogy-Monocrystalline-Solar-Starter-Wanderer/dp/B00BCRG22A/ |
Yes, that's a good deal. Yes, I'd recommend a small inverter, something less than 300 watts. The Pod does not have an inverter. You can check out a detailed description with pix of my solar installation on the Facbook Page under the files section. It's titled "How to--Installation-Solar Panels on Roof https://lookaside.fbsbx.com/file/How%20To%20-%20Installation%20-%20Solar%20Panels%20on%20Roof.pdf?token=AWzdzpZ1ib3EczFsVk8yR1l162UH8FjBPO9JYLPI4ygtj3V8cFcmYNkvcuCtpOVvPRqhbf3pbYBuR-GPeFtZQH3GT8v9W6FvT_dw30BG4DZiGMuhVhpbwByJL9i7N_TUTjLcvLdOV8l7_J3wxVT9fqU9.
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Posted By: mle
Date Posted: 22 May 2017 at 5:07pm
Originally posted by sailor323
Yes, that's a good deal. Yes, I'd recommend a small inverter, something less than 300 watts. The Pod does not have an inverter. You can check out a detailed description with pix of my solar installation on the Facbook Page under the files section. It's titled "How to--Installation-Solar Panels on Roof https://lookaside.fbsbx.com/file/How%20To%20-%20Installation%20-%20Solar%20Panels%20on%20Roof.pdf?token=AWzdzpZ1ib3EczFsVk8yR1l162UH8FjBPO9JYLPI4ygtj3V8cFcmYNkvcuCtpOVvPRqhbf3pbYBuR-GPeFtZQH3GT8v9W6FvT_dw30BG4DZiGMuhVhpbwByJL9i7N_TUTjLcvLdOV8l7_J3wxVT9fqU9.
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Thank you!
That link did not work for me for some reason, but I am interested in seeing how you did your install.
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Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 22 May 2017 at 6:27pm
Originally posted by GlueGuy
Originally posted by mle
I'm looking at the Renogy 200w (two 100w panels) with the Renogy wanderer controller. Will probably add in a fuse to that, and wondering if I should get an inverter too. | The r-pod has an inverter for all the stuff that needs AC, including all the convenience outlets. You should not need another one. |
Pods don't have inverters. They have converters. Inverters (generally) take 12v and turn it into 120v. Converters, like in the Pod, take 120v and turn it into 12v to charge the battery. The only way your 120v sockets work is if you're plugged into shore power.
Solar controllers are another animal. If you have enough 12v solar power you might want an inverter to run a TV or charge your phone.
TT
------------- 2010 176
FJ Cruiser
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Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 22 May 2017 at 7:02pm
Originally posted by Tars Tarkas
Pods don't have inverters. They have converters. TT
| I guess you learn something every day. I think I assumed there was an inverter, but now that I think about it, I only checked the outlets when I was plugged into shore power.
------------- bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost
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Posted By: sailor323
Date Posted: 22 May 2017 at 7:48pm
Originally posted by mle
Thank you!
That link did not work for me for some reason, but I am interested in seeing how you did your install. |
OK, not sure why the link didn't work. Join the Facebook page and look at he files section. Search for "How to-installation- solar panels of roof."
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Posted By: Capperdan
Date Posted: 23 May 2017 at 7:44pm
Am a newbie, wondering what solar system the mfgr. recommends, got a 2017 model 178 about to head out for our first 6-day trip. (First thread I've seen on the subject)
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Posted By: geewizard
Date Posted: 24 May 2017 at 6:38am
I completely bypassed the Zamp wiring and connector and used my own wiring to connect a Renogy 120 W solar panel (portable, not fixed) and Morningstar MPPT controller. Anderson connectors with weatherproof boots connect the panel to the controller. See my other posts on mods to see pics of my setup.
We just returned from a 3 day trip without running the generator at all.
------------- 2021 Winnebago Micro Minnie 1708FB
2017 R-Pod 177 (Blue) HRE SOLD
2004 Outfitter Apex 8 camper
2014 Toyota Tundra DC
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Posted By: mle
Date Posted: 24 May 2017 at 12:10pm
Originally posted by Capperdan
Am a newbie, wondering what solar system the mfgr. recommends, got a 2017 model 178 about to head out for our first 6-day trip. (First thread I've seen on the subject) |
I believe the recommended is Zamp (I read for marketing purposes they write on the paperwork to only use Zamp panels). But quite honestly that's why I made this thread, because in looking at solar controllers and panels, the Zamp stuff is way overpriced for not as much power as other manufacturers that have better ratings. On the 2017s, they say it's "solar ready"; meaning (and I looked on the one we are buying) it has 4 wires and that's it. Two wires that come from the plug on the outside, and two that run to the front to the battery. It seems like a lot of podders run non-Zamp setups with great results.
I was looking at the Renology panels and controller for our 2017. But I keep getting distracted by how nice the semi-flexible ones look. 
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Posted By: mle
Date Posted: 24 May 2017 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by geewizard
I completely bypassed the Zamp wiring and connector and used my own wiring to connect a Renogy 120 W solar panel (portable, not fixed) and Morningstar MPPT controller. Anderson connectors with weatherproof boots connect the panel to the controller. See my other posts on mods to see pics of my setup.
We just returned from a 3 day trip without running the generator at all.
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I like that connector you did, looks really nice. 
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Posted By: Keith-N-Dar
Date Posted: 24 May 2017 at 1:21pm
[[/QUOTE]The r-pod has an inverter for all the stuff that needs AC, including all the convenience outlets. You should not need another one.[/QUOTE]
When did this start?
------------- Keith-N-Dar
Boris & Betty (Boston Terriers)
2011 R-Pod 177
2010 Ford F-150
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Posted By: SDTrialer
Date Posted: 24 May 2017 at 4:56pm
Our 2017 179 has a sticker that recommends Go Power
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Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 24 May 2017 at 6:04pm
We use a Renogy 100watt suitcase system that works well. It keeps our 2 6volt GC batteries fully charged . We are careful with our power usage and boondock most of the time. We have a 30' cord connected to the panel so it can be in the sun while the pod is in the shade. the cord is the same gauge as the power cord so there is little voltage drop in the length. If possible, I will reorient the panel several times a day IF I am in camp. If not, I align it as soon as we get up for current maximum and then I re-align it before we leave camp. I try to anticipate (from yesterday's observations and a compass) where to aim the panel to get maximum mid-day sun.
I have been happy with Renogy products and the service/advice they have offered. My pod is older and was not pre-wired for solar. From what I read and hear, the "pre-wired for solar" is essentially a marketing ploy. I'm sure it may save a little money and time, but I would probably do my own wiring even if I had a newer "pre-wired" pod.
controllers have a lot of variety. different people have different ideas about which type to use. In my case, having only 100 watts, the less expensive and less sophisticated controller works fine. We use the 20 amp PWM controller and it seems to work fine and give me more information than I need/understand/want.
I am happy with my system and the installation. There is a post several months back about my system and the installation. I have changed a few things since the beginning, but it is basically the same.
Vann
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Posted By: Richand Cindy
Date Posted: 24 May 2017 at 8:32pm
Forest River changed from Zamp to Go Power for their "solar ready" hookup in 2017 production models. If you have the ZAMP ready RPOD you can use a standard SAE plug but ZAMP reverses the polarity so if you hook up a non Zamp system it wont work unless you cut the wires and reverse them or buy a SAE converter. I do not know what the polarity is for the Go Power plug and whether it is similar to ZAMP and reversed or not. Will need to research that. Then again you can bypass the prewired plug and just connect your solar system directly to the battery
------------- OLD 2017.5 RPOD 180 + 2015 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
NEW: 2018 Passport Elite 23RB + 2017 Ram 1500 Diesel
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Posted By: TerryPil
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 12:23am
Originally posted by john in idaho
Forest River changed from Zamp to Go Power for their "solar ready" hookup in 2017 production models. If you have the ZAMP ready RPOD you can use a standard SAE plug but ZAMP reverses the polarity so if you hook up a non Zamp system it wont work unless you cut the wires and reverse them or buy a SAE converter. I do not know what the polarity is for the Go Power plug and whether it is similar to ZAMP and reversed or not. Will need to research that. Then again you can bypass the prewired plug and just connect your solar system directly to the battery |
Do you think the zamp is suitable for a complete beginner?
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Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 12:37am
It may be but so is the Renogy 100w suitcase and for a lot less than the Zamp.
TT
------------- 2010 176
FJ Cruiser
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Posted By: geewizard
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 10:10am
Originally posted by mle
Originally posted by geewizard
I completely bypassed the Zamp wiring and connector and used my own wiring to connect a Renogy 120 W solar panel (portable, not fixed) and Morningstar MPPT controller. Anderson connectors with weatherproof boots connect the panel to the controller. See my other posts on mods to see pics of my setup.
We just returned from a 3 day trip without running the generator at all.
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I like that connector you did, looks really nice.  |
Thanks. I like the Anderson connectors and use them in all my 12V applications.
------------- 2021 Winnebago Micro Minnie 1708FB
2017 R-Pod 177 (Blue) HRE SOLD
2004 Outfitter Apex 8 camper
2014 Toyota Tundra DC
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Posted By: geewizard
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 10:14am
My opinion is that a MPPT solar controller wrings out every bit of solar panel output far more efficiently than a PWM solar controller. And so, it's even more critical to use one with smaller solar panels. As is using the largest gauge wire between the solar panel and battery. Every little bit helps when you're beginning with little bits anyway.
------------- 2021 Winnebago Micro Minnie 1708FB
2017 R-Pod 177 (Blue) HRE SOLD
2004 Outfitter Apex 8 camper
2014 Toyota Tundra DC
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Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 25 May 2017 at 10:31am
Originally posted by geewizard
My opinion is that a MPPT solar controller wrings out every bit of solar panel output far more efficiently than a PWM solar controller. And so, it's even more critical to use one with smaller solar panels. As is using the largest gauge wire between the solar panel and battery. Every little bit helps when you're beginning with little bits anyway.
| The other advantage to an MPPT controller is that you can run the "solar part" of the system at a much higher voltage. This means that in low sun conditions, the panels can actually provide juice to the batteries when a pure PWM system might be able to actually charge.
For example, our 150W panel is designed to be used with a 24V system, so it's output is in the 30-37 volt range. You could not use it with a PWM controller for a 12V battery system. However, the MPPT controller is quite happy with 37 volts input (and even higher), and putting out charging voltages for a 12V battery. In low light conditions, it could actually charge a 12V battery where a PWM system would still be waiting for some more sun.
------------- bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost
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Posted By: Rustler
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2017 at 1:44am
Originally posted by GlueGuy
I'm very familiar with DC solar systems. I have been building my own for remote communications facilities for over a decade.
I presume the zamp connector on an R-pod is connected directly to the battery (or batteries) with probably a fuse in between? If that's the case, then any external solar controller would probably work fine.
I've got a few spare solar panels laying around, and they are all nominally 24V panels (they actually put out between 30 and 37 volts, depending on manufacturer and load, etc).
My intention is to use one of my 150 watt panels, and connect it through a small MPPT controller set for a 12V system. |
I highly recommend using a higher voltage panel like you describe. One advantage is that with the MPPT controller the power lost in long wire runs is much less. Just place the controller near the battery and use the higher voltage for long wire runs between the panel and the camper. This gives the option of placing the panel at some distance from the camper out of the shade. I have used a 36-volt, 185 watt panel with up to a 75 foot 10-gauge cable.
My writeup on my solar power system is at this link:
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8692&KW=Solar+System&PID=81399&title=new-solar-power-system-for-rpod#81399 - http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8692&KW=Solar+System&PID=81399&title=new-solar-power-system-for-rpod#81399
I've also used a nice 120-watt panel which runs at around 34 volts at max. power point. I can also use both panels in parallel (305 watts) with the same http://www.wholesalesolar.com/3615155/morningstar-corporation/charge-controllers/morningstar-corporation-sunsaver-mppt-ss-mppt-15l-charge-controller?gclid=CLzd3tKp5c0CFZA8gQod3ucPgg - Morningstar Sunsaver MMPT-15L controller . The power is limited to 200 watts (15 amps) by the controller without damage to anything. In the early and late parts of the day the output would be increased (up to the 200 watt limit), as it would on cloudy days. But I'm hoping that for dry camping, the 120 watt panel would suffice.
Let us know how your solar power system works.
------------- Russ
2009 Toyota RAV4
V6 w/ tow package
2016 Rpod 171 HRE
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Posted By: geewizard
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2017 at 9:05am
My Renogy 100W panel is taking care of all our power needs and puts out over 19VDC in direct sun. We run the fridge on propane and use a Wave 3 catalytic heater. So far, we've had no need to use a generator.
I just recently made another 25' cable for the solar panel using this wire and Anderson connectors with boots on each end: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IK4P6WU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IK4P6WU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I did this because I was chasing sunlight in a camping spot with tall trees and couldn't put the solar panel in the "steady" sunlight spot.
------------- 2021 Winnebago Micro Minnie 1708FB
2017 R-Pod 177 (Blue) HRE SOLD
2004 Outfitter Apex 8 camper
2014 Toyota Tundra DC
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Posted By: djensen
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2017 at 10:39am
If I were to install and use a solar system, will my electrical outlets be available for use?
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Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2017 at 11:28am
Originally posted by djensen
If I were to install and use a solar system, will my electrical outlets be available for use?
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Depends on the install and how much money you care to spend. Anything is possible with enough $$$$. But in general, no.
A "solar system" in the way we are talking about them here, is for charging the batteries. Them only thing you give up going off grid is the a/c and microwave. Every other system in the pod can, or does, run on 12v or propane.
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Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2017 at 12:00pm
+1. Remember most solar systems you might use for an R-pod are going to be in the 100-200 watt category. That is pretty much what it takes to charge your batteries over a few hours. If your batteries are full, then all of that power is available for other uses. However it's still only 100-200 watts. Not enough to run the microwave. Not enough to run the AC. Probably enough to run the furnace.
------------- bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost
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Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2017 at 6:44pm
The furnace fan and electronics run on 12v, so if you mean solar will maintain the battery well enough to use the furnace, that's probably correct. A lot would depend on sunlight, outside temps, and how warm you want to keep it inside.
TT
------------- 2010 176
FJ Cruiser
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Posted By: Rustler
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 2:17am
Originally posted by GlueGuy
Originally posted by geewizard
My opinion is that a MPPT solar controller wrings out every bit of solar panel output far more efficiently than a PWM solar controller. And so, it's even more critical to use one with smaller solar panels. As is using the largest gauge wire between the solar panel and battery. Every little bit helps when you're beginning with little bits anyway.
| The other advantage to an MPPT controller is that you can run the "solar part" of the system at a much higher voltage. This means that in low sun conditions, the panels can actually provide juice to the batteries when a pure PWM system might be able to actually charge.
For example, our 150W panel is designed to be used with a 24V system, so it's output is in the 30-37 volt range. You could not use it with a PWM controller for a 12V battery system. However, the MPPT controller is quite happy with 37 volts input (and even higher), and putting out charging voltages for a 12V battery. In low light conditions, it could actually charge a 12V battery where a PWM system would still be waiting for some more sun. |
I completely agree with your thoughts. I didn't realize the added benefit of useable solar output in low or weak Sun conditions. Seems like most people are scared off from using the higher voltage panels, not knowing the MPPT controller does the voltage conversion to charge a 12-volt battery. The higher voltage means much less power loss in lengthy wiring. As was mentioned, using the largest gauge and shortest wire is of great benefit.
My implementation of using a couple of 36-volt panels to power my RPod 171 is described in this post:
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10133&title=solar-power-system-for-rpod-171 - 36-volt panels powering RPod 171
While the MPPT controllers are more expensive than PWM controllers, the extra cost more than pays for itself over the years. It's like getting a more powerful solar panel for the size and cost of a smaller one.
------------- Russ
2009 Toyota RAV4
V6 w/ tow package
2016 Rpod 171 HRE
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Posted By: Cfesko
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 1:18pm
but did you use the MC4 connector next to the door or straight line it to the battery with clips??
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Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 1:42pm
Most panels these days use MC4 connectors. However, you need the controller in between the panels and the batteries.
What I would be inclined to do is use MC4 to get to the R-pod. What you use on the side of the R-pod would be optional, but if there is such a thing as a panel-mount for MC4, that would be a nice option.
I would then place the MPPT controller as close to the batteries/converter as possible. I'm guessing there is enough space behind the converter to make that a logical place, but that is a SWAG.
Some of our remote solar sites use as many as 5 37-volt panels. We run them in series, which produces ~~ 185 volts. Even in really crappy solar conditions (like heavy overcast), we can get > 60 volts out of this setup. Our solar sites are mostly 48 volt battery systems, and the MPPT controller converts from whatever voltage is coming out of the panels into what the batteries need.
I love MPPT controllers.
------------- bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost
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