I wrecked our escaPod
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Topic: I wrecked our escaPod
Posted By: StephenH
Subject: I wrecked our escaPod
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2016 at 10:31pm
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We were on the way to our older daughter's home near Salt Lake City. Looking at the forecasts, I thought there were no storms in store for the time we would be on the road, so we set out across I40 and linked up to I80. We made it across Nebraska and then the wind really started blowing. It was gusting up to 60 mph. So far, so good. Then the weather shifted and the temperature dropped from about 39F to 18F within 15 minutes. The wind had shifted to the opposite direction gusting up to 40 mph. Snow was coming down and blowing so as to cut visibility. Our travel slowed so much that we ended up stopping in Rock Springs, Wyoming. This morning, things looked much better, so we took off and were on the road doing pretty well. However, as we went further west, ice started to show up. The wind also picked up and was (I found out afterward) gusting to 40 mph again. Within a very short distance, we went from dry pavement to ice. We lost traction and started to fishtail. I tried correcting, but it was useless. We ended up with the car and trailer facing the direction from which we came. The trailer had swung around so that the front-left of the trailer hit the rear-left of our Escape. The trailer's back-right corner hit the guardrail on a bridge. The car's sheet metal was pushed in and touching the tire, so the car can't be driven. The trailer's back-right corner has a hole in it and the taillight was broken. The side-marker light on that corner was also broken. The front-left was damaged a little from where it hit the car, but that appears to be minor. It would take a good inspection by someone familiar with trailers to tell for sure. The car and trailer were towed to Green River, Wyoming and here we sit. There was no insurance adjuster available today (Saturday). We are on hold until Monday. I got some Gorilla tape and taped up the broken window in the car and taped up the hole in the R-Pod. We are camped out at in the towing lot until Monday. In hindsight, we should have gone out via I10 and up through Las Vegas on I15. However, we tried to take the most direct route to Salt Lake City. I should have known better than to trust the weather forecast. |
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Posted By: Kickstart
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 1:35am
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Welcome to the club. A club I don't enjoy others joining with me. Some bad conditions come up so quickly that no matter how good our towing combo and WDH, we just lose control. I know exactly how you feel. Hopefully the damage to your tow rig and trailer is slight enough that you aren't burdened with branded/rebuilt titles now. That can be a real lose lose situation. Hope everything works out for you.
------------- '10 RP 175-Replaced by 2014 Kodiak 173 QBSL '12 Toyota Tundra '05 Sportster (half a Harley) Retired-We're on Beach Time! |
Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 6:02am
| Glad you are safe and what could have been isn't. The TV and TT can be repaired or replaced. |
Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 7:29am
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The important thing is you guys didn't get hurt! The rest can be dealt with. Hope everything works out....stay positive.
------------- Leo & Melissa Bachand 2017 Ford F150 2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk Previously owned 2015 Rpod 179 2010 Rpod 171 |
Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 9:06am
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People are safe? All that matters. The rest will get fixed or replaced. Try to have a good weekend, go see a movie or something.. I will admit, we pretty much avoid the northern plains this time of year. Having to travel from here to Northern California to see my parents, and having the need to stop in central Kansas to see hers, we have made that drive a "few times".. ------------- |
Posted By: Richand Cindy
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 10:19am
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Sorry to hear the bad news. Hopefully you can get some quick fixes to get back on the road to enjoy the holidays with family.
------------- OLD 2017.5 RPOD 180 + 2015 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk NEW: 2018 Passport Elite 23RB + 2017 Ram 1500 Diesel |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 11:27am
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The main thing we will need quickly is a way to get our R-Pod to Camping World in Salt Lake. The car will take some time to repair. The tow operator said it would probably be three weeks or more. The R-Pod can probably be patched up enough temporarily to get it home, provided we can get the TV fixed or replaced. I have a dash cam, and have the video of the incident. If the 'Pod's rear end had not hit the guardrail, we might have slid straight enough to recover. I think it was that hit that kicked us around the other way and caused the jack knife that did the damage to the Escape. Right Rear corner:  Left Front Corner:  Escape:  The lift-gate is also pushed over and out of position. I think the Equal-i-zer hitch kept it from continuing to swing around and cause more damage based on the damage to the bumper at the lower-right of the picture. In that respect, I am glad I got the Equal-i-zer hitch instead of the Andersen, which I don't think would have limited the swing in the same way. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: john in idaho
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 11:36am
| Both I-80 and I-70 are not fun to drive at times in the winter. A couple of years ago we had sideways blowing snow on I-10 on the border with Mexico. While we sat in a line several miles long. |
Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 12:38pm
It was the rear mounted cargo tray.. 
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Posted By: mjlrpod
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 1:37pm
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Steven, 1st im glad all are ok. 2nd, you use w/d with sway control right? I didnt know if the w/d sway bars allowed the trailer to jack knife like that and hit the T.V. . This is probably one of those cases were having the extended warranty i bought for mine would come in real handy. They cover much of what happened to you, hotels, towing, etc. hopefully you have it. ------------- 2017.5 Rp-172 2020 R-pod 195 2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl I'll be rpodding |
Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 2:03pm
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So sorry to hear this! Glad everyone is okay. Good luck getting everything straightened out. TT ------------- 2010 176 FJ Cruiser |
Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 2:19pm
None of this is covered by a warranty. This is what insurance is for. You need to read both your insurance and warranty paperwork/policy. ------------- |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 4:46pm
My wife and I are glad we're okay also.  I did not know that the Equal-i-zer hitch would allow that much swing either. Apparently, it did. I looked a little while ago and it looks like the factory receiver is twisted a little. This probably means that there is more frame damage than is visible The twist is slight, but visible enough to show the hitch is off of center-line. We don't have the extended warranty. What we do have is insurance and Good Sam Roadside Assist. Hopefully, between our auto/trailer insurance and the roadside assist, the towing and repairs will be covered. I suspect we may be looking for a new tow vehicle in the immediate future. I looked on KBB and the trade in value of our Escape is about the same as what we owe on it. If the repairs look like they are going to be too much, the vehicle may be considered as totaled by the insurance adjuster. I won't know that until sometime tomorrow. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 6:35pm
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Good luck! Hope it works out well
------------- Leo & Melissa Bachand 2017 Ford F150 2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk Previously owned 2015 Rpod 179 2010 Rpod 171 |
Posted By: mjlrpod
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 6:40pm
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None of this is covered by a warranty. This is what insurance is for. You need to read both your insurance and warranty paperwork/policy. [/QUOTE] Actually, my warranty/protection plan WOULD cover at least some of this. It is the more expensive one they offer, it is a 3rd party policy that covers all kinds of repairs or replacements and more. They told me covers the tow vehicle tow expenses if it breaks down, or for any reason cant be driven ( i believe thats accurate) and it will cover any hotel expenses if our trailer is unusable, any food that goes bad, they will tow the trailer to a repair shop. I was told the only thing i really dont have coverage on was the tires. I also have rv insurance. ------------- 2017.5 Rp-172 2020 R-pod 195 2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl I'll be rpodding |
Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 6:54pm
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Stephen, Wow! Glad to here everyone is OK, everything else can be repaired/replaced. With sway control/weight distribution at some point weight and momentum just overcome design/engineering and things just bend and give way to the forces of nature. With no sway or weight distribution things could have been much worse. Hope your on your way soon and good luck! rgds John ------------- http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS John&Sue,SLO,CA 2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost 
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Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 7:14pm
Actually, my warranty/protection plan WOULD cover at least some of this. It is the more expensive one they offer, it is a 3rd party policy that covers all kinds of repairs or replacements and more. They told me covers the tow vehicle tow expenses if it breaks down, or for any reason cant be driven ( i believe thats accurate) and it will cover any hotel expenses if our trailer is unusable, any food that goes bad, they will tow the trailer to a repair shop. I was told the only thing i really dont have coverage on was the tires. I also have rv insurance. [/QUOTE]Over 30 years in the insurance industry here in this house... The policy you have, or are referencing is not a warranty. It IS a type of insurance, marketed by a 3rd party, regardless of how it was marketed/explained to you. Many RV owners have some sort of roadside assistance, or loss of use coverage, but, again, that's a type of insurance, not a warranty. ------------- |
Posted By: Blue Highways
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 11:54pm
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Stephen... since my son was born in Laramie, WY, (and we lived there two years), we got really familiar with how challenging and fickle these weird I-80 winter conditions are, and how they can wreak havoc on travelers on that high desert interstate west & east of Rock Springs, Wyoming. When we lived there, that long section of highway was NOTORIOUS, with locals calling that stretch "The Snow-Chi-Min Trail" for it's unpredictability & danger. In the cold months, it's legendary in the trucking world, and still SO MANY 18-wheelers annually slide, jackknife, and then dump their cargo off into the wind-blown ditches, right and left. And these truckers are professionals; very familiar with radically changing wind vectors, (add in snow + crazy temperature drops) and they really have no instant options when suddenly faced with dry roads turning to an ice glazed I-80 along with crosswinds with their big box of cargo. There is no method to be accurately forewarned about this I-80 phenomena.
Thank the Lord you both are physically OK, as the ice/wind incident so easily could have twisted your Escape over violently onto its side. Your survival without injury is the major blessing. Your R-Pod damage looks like the kind that the RV guys have seen before from various incidents & contacts with other vehicles, which leads me to believe that they know just what to do to repair, seal and cosmetically patch your Pod up well. They probably have realigned many hitch ends that are off a little, as well. I'm guessing that the Escape, being of today's crossover unibody design might have suffered enough rear body distortion twist, that it may be better in the end if you can get a cash settlement on it, allowing you to change up your tow vehicle for something different. (I have no special adjusting/or bodywork knowledge, tho.) You might be able to exert some influence in the direction you want to go, if you feel strongly one way or the other, as the policy owner. Also, maybe if you want to stay with the Escape as your TV, you can get another younger one and retain most of accessories from your damaged one (hitch, tires maybe or?) to transfer over to a newer replacement Escape. But however it plays out, I hope strongly that you get treated 100% fairly by your insurance carrier(s) on this, including Good Sam and RV coverage, so that you can move forward to be back on the road by next spring more great camping memories. We are all rooting for a successful outcome for you. I feel that any of us can be just one crazy incident away from a potential road accident, (with a set of mis-timed events / circumstances beyond our control in ANY driving season) so I've a hunch that most of us realize that this could be any of us reporting such news. You have been such a good, consistent and helpful presence in this community. My wife and I are really wishing you well, and so, so thankful that you were both not injured. Maybe we can all learn something about how this is normally handled (and the ways of the insurance) that we dutifully pay and hope would come through fairly on our behalf.... Take care and best wishes. Be thankful and be surrounded by your loved ones this holiday season. As John & Sue posted above, essentially: 'you both made it ....and stuff can be fixed.' Brad & Layli Western NC |
Posted By: funks
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2016 at 9:31am
| I'm glad your safe. Sorry for the damage that has been done. We hope you get everything worked out and get to your destination for the holidays. This is something can happen to any of use when your out there on the road. Take Care |
Posted By: Wood River Pod
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2016 at 10:42am
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Glad to hear you and your wife are OK. SLC is a haven for all things trailers. There are several FR R-Pod dealers and many quality repair places. I think for such and unfortunate event, you're in the right place. In addition, you can't go more than three block before hitting a car dealership. Rates are going up, so may be a good time to replace the rig. I know this forum will get a education as we tag along in this process through your eyes. I know my mods have benefited from your posting. As stated previously, you are an integral participant on this forum. Our Family wishes you and your family the best this Holiday Season. ------------- Smith's in Hailey Early 2017 179 HRE http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9134&PN=1&title=wood-river-179-mods - Wood River Mods |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2016 at 11:13am
If you have the names of any of them, please let me know so I can contact them. The car will go to a body shop here in Green River. However, the R-Pod can't be repaired here. I can patch it up, but I need a suitable tow vehicle to get it to any repair shop. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: CampCat
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2016 at 1:24pm
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Stephen H, I am so sorry to hear about this unfortunate event. I am very glad you are ok. I pray for your rapid return to the continuation of your Podding. Patrick D ------------- Patrick&Deanna, Scion xB, Clark Vertex Hammock "PuppypPod", crosswind kayak Starting from scratch😄 |
Posted By: hogone
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2016 at 6:35pm
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stephenh (or anyone else with this experience): how did the pod brakes work in these conditions? any advice? hogone btw: very glad family is safe. Merry Christmas to all out there. go pack
------------- Jon & Pam 2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
Posted By: Mojave1
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2016 at 6:42pm
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Sorry to hear such bad news, but glad you're okay. Warm regards from Texas. ------------- 2017 179 R-pod |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2016 at 11:42pm
Thank you. As for the pod brakes, I should have thought, but didn't, of using the manual brake control to put some braking on the pod. I tried to countersteer, but when the back end of the pod caught the guardrail, it kicked the pod around which then was too much for the hitch to compensate. It all happened so quickly. It would be nice if there were some sort of practice simulator where one could learn to deal with such situations. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 12:46am
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On ice, once your trailers sliding, brakes don't help unless you have chains on.They play hockey on that stuff for a reason. ------------- http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS John&Sue,SLO,CA 2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 8:45am
I'm sure he's referring to the XtraRide extended warranty that has been discussed here many times (the only extended warranty for anything that I have ever recommended - I hate extended warranties). Both of you are right, really. It is marketed as a "warranty" but it has many "insurance"-benefits included as features. ------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual 
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Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 8:47am
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Stephen H. So glad you or your wife didn't get hurt. As many before me have said. Material stuff is dispensable and can be replaced. Give thanks to the One who protected you two from further harm; am sure you have. ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 9:05am
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Stephen - as many have said, I'm glad you were ok. Dealing with insurance and repairs is a pain, I know, I got into an accident this past summer while pulling our camper. But better than dealing with insurance and repairs for YOU.
As long as the pod's hitch latches properly it otherwise looks ok to tow. I would apply a large trash bag and liberal amounts of Gorilla tape to waterproof the hole. Maybe add some Gorilla tape on the other corner, too, to ensure it is waterproof. That will get you to the repair shop w/o adding water damage to the list. ------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: Rodpod
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 9:48am
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Can you post the video? ------------- 2016 R-Pod 179 |
Posted By: Kokopod
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 12:09pm
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We are here in Green River. We'll drive around and try to find where you're parked; but if you need anything, write back now. I'll keep watching this post. Where were you towed? ------------- 2017 Jayco Melbourne 24k 2013 Premier 19FBPR Formerly-2013 R-pod 177HRE 2011 Dodge Durango Love a good road trip |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 6:34pm
There is no way to directly post the video. It would far exceed the file size limitations. It really does not show much since it is showing only what is straight ahead. It shows the movement back and forth and then around, but does not show the trailer. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 6:40pm
The R-Pod is parked in the back lot of Norberg's Towing. The car may be there or it may have already been moved to Yeager's body shop. The R-Pod is locked up and the battery cut-off switch is set to disconnect the batteries to keep them from being run down. I got some Gorilla tape and used some wood from a crate to fill the hole and tape over it. Before we get on the road with it, I would like to get a piece of plywood to put over the tape and seal it better so that it will keep wind and snow/rain out until we can get it home and get it fixed properly. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: Kokopod
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 7:01pm
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We live about a half mile from Yeager's to the west off of Flaming Gorge Way. When you come back through, if you need anything let us know. I open this forum almost every day but didn't look at all over the weekend. Really sorry I didn't catch it sooner, or we might have been able to help out somehow. Our son lives in SLC. Hope you're there safely by now. Merry Christmas. ------------- 2017 Jayco Melbourne 24k 2013 Premier 19FBPR Formerly-2013 R-pod 177HRE 2011 Dodge Durango Love a good road trip |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 11:00pm
We are at our daughter's house now. The R-Pod is still in Green River. We still need to get the R-Pod from there to here. Given that the car is going to take some time to get repaired, we are shopping for a suitable used TV. We were over at Carmax today as well as checking out the local market for suitable vehicles. We may have found one that will work. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 11:30pm
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Well.. in a round-about-way...
here you are with the opportunity to look at a bigger tow vehicle.. (just trying to put some mirth in crappy situation..) ------------- |
Posted By: podrunner
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 12:46am
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Sorry to read of your travels and challenges. Like others have said, most important that everyone is ok. Things can be fixed / replaced. I live within a couple of miles of the Carmax where you are shopping. Glad to help if there is anything I might be able to assist you with. Best wishes for a successful outcome to your situation and Merry Christmas. ------------- 2010 R Pod 151 2017 4runner 2006 Honda Metropolitan |
Posted By: Kokopod
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 1:20am
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Motor Sportsland (on State Street in Salt Lake) is where we purchased our R-pod in 2013. They're really a great dealer with a good service department. You might check out whether they could repair yours. You had mentioned Camping World, but I don't think they even sell R-pods, at least the one in Kaysville doesn't. In Green River, you might also check out Adams RV. They might be able to repair it without you having to transport it to SLC. ------------- 2017 Jayco Melbourne 24k 2013 Premier 19FBPR Formerly-2013 R-pod 177HRE 2011 Dodge Durango Love a good road trip |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 1:44am
I want to get our R-Pod to where we are. There are things in it that we need to get, which we can't do if it is up in Green River. I appreciate the Motor Sportsland information. I will contact them tomorrow morning to see what I can find out from them about our situation. I appreciate it. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 1:50am
I've looked at some pickup trucks today. A diesel Ford F250, but it has some significant oil leakage problems. That was from a private seller. At Carmax in South Jordan, we looked at a Nissan Frontier with a king cab. It has a 6500 lb tow limit. I also looked at a Chevy Avalanche, but it was older. As much as I would like a diesel vehicle, the Nissan seems like a better choice at this time. We still need to find out what will happen with our Escape. I hope to hear something more definite tomorrow. I'm trying to keep this to under $20,000. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: podrunner
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 10:14am
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Have you considered just renting a u haul pick up truck to get your trailer to SLC? This might give you more time to find the tow vehicle you are looking for.
------------- 2010 R Pod 151 2017 4runner 2006 Honda Metropolitan |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 12:11pm
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I did look at a U-Haul truck that had a hitch, but the problem is that they don't come with the brake controller. That would be a big problem.
------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: David and Danette
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 2:48pm
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If it would be possible I have known with animal rescue groups volunteer's will take turns driving a distance and will shuttle a animal to it's destination. Perhaps with podders helping podders this could be done shuttling your camper back home. My wife often tells me I don't make any sense how about now does this make sense? ------------- 2018 Vista Cruiser 19BFD (2018- 2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019) 2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014) Middle Tn 2014 Ram 1500 Quad cab |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 3:02pm
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We are purchasing a used Nissan Frontier which has the tow package. Then we will be able to go and get the R-Pod. It has a 6000+# tow rating. I have the brake controller adapter cable on order for overnight delivery. Hopefully, we can get the R-POD here before the weekend. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: Kokopod
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 5:22pm
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Glad to hear that you've at least resolved part of the problem. ------------- 2017 Jayco Melbourne 24k 2013 Premier 19FBPR Formerly-2013 R-pod 177HRE 2011 Dodge Durango Love a good road trip |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 5:42pm
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This is a bit older Nissan. It is a 2010 Frontier LE 4x4 crew cab V6. A couple of nice features this one has is that it has the roof rack (for mounting our wind deflector) and a cover for the cargo area as well as the bed extender and the rails for tie down brackets. It should serve us well.
------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: ricon
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 6:28pm
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You will be happy with Frontier. I towed my rpod from Ohio to Colorado (1200 miles)without any issues. I do not have brake controller.
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Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 6:35pm
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You have to have a brake controller, that is the law.
------------- If you want something done right, do it yourself. 2011 RP172, 2016 Tundra 5.7 Litre, Ltd. |
Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 7:16pm
Every state in the Union says if the trailer has brakes, they MUST be functional. They also all give a weight at which trailers must have them, while the weight varies, in all states, the Pod's GVWR of 3500 pounds meets the threshold. If you are towing without a controller, you are not only driving dangerously, you are breaking the law, and heaven forbid you are involved in an accident. ------------- |
Posted By: ToolmanJohn
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 8:49pm
Your R-Pod has electric drum brakes for a reason. Without a brake controller installed in your tow vehicle, how can the R-Pod electric brakes get activated???? You must be making your Frontier do ALL the work of an additional 2500 or pounds of payload braking? Think about it. Super dangerous. MUCH longer emergency stopping distances... Please spend $150 and get a good proportional brake controller and install it NOW.. It's not even very hard to do, and paying someone to do it can save you or someone else. ------------- 2017 ATC 7X20 Custom Toy Hauler 2013 R-Pod 177 (SOLD) 2013 VW Touareg TDI |
Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 9:16pm
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Ditto on what Furpod said. You should get the controller, if you ever get into an accident you would definitely face some serious civil liability and probably criminal charges.
------------- Leo & Melissa Bachand 2017 Ford F150 2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk Previously owned 2015 Rpod 179 2010 Rpod 171 |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 10:22pm
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Agreed also! There have been a number of times I have really appreciated the trailer's brakes. One time was in Las Vegas when we were surprised by a sharp curve and I needed to slow down really quick. There were plenty of marks on the retaining wall from others who weren't able to do so (with or without trailer, I don't know). Other times, someone has stopped short in front of us or a light has changed and there wouldn't have been time to cross before it changed to red. Without operational trailer brakes, we would have been in trouble more than once. For your own safety and for the safety of others, please get a brake controller installed. I have the Hopkins InSIGHT Flex-Mount controller. I have been very happy with its performance and with the ability to mount the components where they make sense for me. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: ricon
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 9:27am
| I towed my rpod from dealer only. I didn't think about a brake controller. I'll get it asap. What do you guys recommend? Thanks |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 9:35am
I recommend the http://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Brake_Controller-pm-Hopkins.aspx - Hopkins InSIGHT Flex-Mount controller. It is good to be able to mount the display and manual control where they make sense to you. I just ordered a wiring connector so that I could move the controller from our Escape to the Nissan Frontier that we just bought so that we could continue our trip while the Escape is being repaired. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: ricon
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 10:37am
| Thanks. Just checked the Hopkins controller. I like it. |
Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 3:00pm
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I always recommend the Tekonsha Prodigy line. If my old Prodigy (from about 2004) ever dies I'll probably go to the wireless version. ------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 1:57am
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My son-in-law went with me today to bring our pod home to our daughter's house. We retrieved it from the tow yard today. It was later than we thought because I was waiting on UPS to deliver the cable wiring harness to connect the Hopkins controller. I removed the controller from the Escape and temporarily installed it in the Frontier so we could get to my daughter's house. I'll do a better job of mounting it when I have time, especially before we leave for the next leg of our trip. We also did some temporary repairs. This involved screwing a piece of plywood over the Gorilla taped hole on the side and installing a replacement taillight. I'll get pictures tomorrow. I need to do more patching before we travel much more. We did not have the time to set up the Equal-i-zer hitch. We had to tow without the bars in place which made the hitch like a plain ball with no weight distribution and no sway control. I will definitely be setting up the hitch tomorrow because I did not feel comfortable towing without the sway control of the hitch. I limited the speed but still felt some swaying, even though I couldn't see it because it was dark. As far as it goes, the Frontier performed adequately going over the passes in western Wyoming and eastern Utah. It doesn't have quite the same performance of the Escape because it isn't turbocharged. However, it will be nice to only have to use regular gasoline instead of premium. I need to replace two side-marker light covers that were lost in the accident. I should be able to get them (or replacement lights as a unit) from the Camping World or another RV dealer in the Salt Lake City area. It was nice meeting Kokopod at the O'Reilley's Auto Parts store in Green River. We were finishing up the controller installation when Kokopod walked up. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 8:37am
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Great to hear things are coming together!
------------- Leo & Melissa Bachand 2017 Ford F150 2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk Previously owned 2015 Rpod 179 2010 Rpod 171 |
Posted By: podrunner
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 10:56am
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I need to replace two side-marker light covers that were lost in the accident. I should be able to get them (or replacement lights as a unit) from the Camping World or another RV dealer in the Salt Lake City area. There is a company called State Trailer Supply that is here in the SLC area. 3600 S Redwood Rd. They are probably the local favorite for all things trailer, both travel and cargo. They have a wide selection of all parts, much more than you would find at Camping World. With all the "modding" you do, you will feel like a kid in a candy store. I believe they do repairs as well. Glad to hear you are getting your rig back together..
------------- 2010 R Pod 151 2017 4runner 2006 Honda Metropolitan |
Posted By: birderdiane526
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 3:52pm
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So sorry to hear of this, but relieved you're not injured. Safe travels going forward! Merry Christmas! ------------- Diane and Michael 2016 179 "PIP" (PODDING IN PARADISE) 2007 Toyota Tundra BLOG:Podding in Paradise, birderdiane526.blogspot.com |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 8:44pm
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I did some more patching today. I think I have it close being able to make the trip back to NC. I want to address the front corner which was not as severely damaged, but is nonetheless damaged enough that I don't want to tow it home until I get at least some Gorilla tape over the cracked places. I need to wait for it to be dry again so that the tape will stick. The repairs so far are with 1/4" lauan p[lywood treated with three coats of polyurethane sealer on both sides. These are over the top of the Gorilla tape I applied earlier. I got two side-marker lights at Camping World. I used the amber lens from the one to replace the missing one. I had to replace the red marker light fixture as it was broken along with the taillight. We are blessed that the frame was not affected, so we will be able to get it home and then see about proper repairs.  ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 9:22pm
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Stephan, Thats a NASCAR fix if I ever saw one! Just has to finish the race and get back to the shop. Merry Christmas and safe travels! ------------- http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS John&Sue,SLO,CA 2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2016 at 10:30pm
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Thank you. I had not thought of it i that way.
------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2017 at 9:09pm
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We finally arrived home. In addition to the repairs pictured above, I used Gorilla Tape to cover the damage on the front. It held up well to the travel. I also used some insulating foam to fill in the gaps around the boards on the rear. It sealed everything up nicely on the return trip. We stopped at Country Roads RV Center in Lexington, NC. This is the dealer from which we purchased our escaPOD. I also sent the pictures I had taken of the damage before it was covered. They will do a preliminary estimate and determine if it can be fixed. The damage does not seem like much, but it does involve all sides of the Pod with the back and right being the worst. We really could not see what the damage is to the front until we can get it unloaded and get access to the front side under the bed. I will expect a call so we can schedule a time for me to bring it in to drop off for repairs. In preparation for that, I am removing a lot of the customizations I have done. I was told that it it is totaled, then everything in it would go with it. I want to save things like the kitchen faucet I installed (I will have to leave the sink), the Oxygenics shower head, the shelves and lights, the electric jack, the generator rack, and the BAL underbody spare tire carrier. This is not an exhaustive list. I will be busy for the next few days getting it ready to go. I do not want to send my dual 6V batteries, so I am looking for an inexpensive 12V battery to have so the brakes will be powered if the trailer becomes disconnected. I was looking at a 12V garden tractor battery at Walmart. It is not a deep-cycle battery, but I think it would be adequate for taking the trailer up and back. Does this sound like a good idea? The one I am considering is the https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-U1R-7-Lawn-Garden-Battery/16795214 - Everstart U1R which sells for $19.87 (plus core charge). ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: funks
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2017 at 11:04pm
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Stephen I'm sure were all glad to here from you. Sounds like you have good plan. Good luck
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Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 4:11am
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Stephen,
That battery should work for that purpose. ------------- Mike Carter 2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 8:44am
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Thanks. I was hoping it would be adequate. I don't want to buy another set of 6V batteries if I can avoid it. The same with my other removable customizations. Some, like the drawer modifications, can't be removed. The good thing about it is that I have the experience now on making them so if I need to do it again in a new one, it will be easier. I should know more in a week or two. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: Kokopod
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 1:37pm
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What was the verdict on your Escape? ------------- 2017 Jayco Melbourne 24k 2013 Premier 19FBPR Formerly-2013 R-pod 177HRE 2011 Dodge Durango Love a good road trip |
Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 1:46pm
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Stephen,
If they are talking in repairable, I would leave nothing I could unbolt and reuse. You'll get nothing for it. Batteries won't matter, and I would take the spare tire carrier and travel rack and anything else I could salvage before it went to the shop. When they total a vehicle, they could care less what mods it has, it's all based on book value. Granted some stuff is permanent and can't be easily undone, but the bolt on stuff that doesn't leave obvious removal damage - take it. My 2 cents. ------------- Mike Carter 2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
Posted By: Blue Highways
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 2:28pm
Posted By: Blue Highways
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 2:29pm
| Sound advice, Mike. |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 8:27pm
The Escape is still in the shop. Weather has delayed delivery of parts. I spoke with my insurance claims representative and she filled me in. When it is done, my daughter and son-in-law will be able to pick it up. They have a check for the deductible that will be paid when they are satisfied the repairs have been completed. I will find out more about the trailer in the next few days. If not this week, it will likely be early next week. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 8:39pm
That is what I was intending. The Removing the sink would leave a gaping hole. However, I can salvage our faucet. Lowe's had a $15.95 kitchen faucet that I will install in place of the one we both like (and which cost significantly more). If the verdict is that the trailer is repairable, I still would rather it went with the cheap faucet and then reinstall our good faucet when it gets back. Essentially, I am going to try to send it back in as close to the configuration it was when we purchased it. Some things will not be possible to change back or remove (the door window is the biggest item), but I will remove our double step and reinstall the single step. I already removed the generator rack and did the battery modification. There are more things to be done, but they are more minor. I should be getting a mattress bag tomorrow. When I get it, I will put the mattress in it and seal it. Then I will vacuum it to flatten it out and roll it and wrap it so that it will be like it was when it was shipped. Given enough of the shipping plastic wrap, I should be able to keep it confined even if the vacuum is not kept intact. That will let me get it out of the pod and out of the way. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2017 at 5:44pm
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If it is declared scrap, you might be able to negotiate a buy-back of individual parts (sink, door), or even of the whole thing at a discount. The insurance company will end up just selling it at an auction anyway. Someone linked to a damaged pod a few years ago which was up for auction. If it had been a little closer I would seriously have considered bidding on it and then parting it out. I think a tree fell on it so it wasn't repairable. ------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2017 at 6:36pm
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I hope to find out early next week since I did not get the estimate today. Negotiating the buy-back of some parts would be nice. I replaced the antenna that was ripped off when we visited friends and it got caught on a tree in their driveway. I get better reception with the new antenna. I don't know if it is better or if the previous one was defective. It is a moot point since most of it was discarded in Arizona. I did use Locktite on the nuts and screws. I had noticed that one of the screws which hold the covers on had come out and others were loose. The Locktite (blue) should prevent that from happening with the new one. Of course, if it is totaled, it will be wasted effort. I like the looks of the new antenna on the 2017 R-Pods, but realized that without access to rotate it, the new style would not really work to replace the type that came with our Pod. One of the last things that happened shortly before we got to the dealer was that the hanger that holds up the black water discharge valve and cover became disconnected. The end dragged on the road so the cover was lost and the end of the pipe was worn. The serviceman at the dealer said it could be associated with the crash. The black tank was the only one with any significant amount of liquid. It could have caused the nut to loosen and then fall off with the additional vibration of travel. The pipe is okay. There seems to be some play in it, probably on purpose. However, the end will need to be replaced. The gate valve seems to be okay. It was challenging emptying the black water tank when we got home though. I had placed a basin to catch any leakage. There was more than I expected, but the basin did not overflow. After the tanks were drained, the basin was drained into the sewer opening before I put the cap back on. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 5:43pm
I heard from both the dealer's repair shop and the insurance company today. Due to the cost to repair, ouR escaPOD is considered a total loss.  It isn't only the cost, but the ability to get the parts from the factory to the dealer. It just isn't feasible to ship a new roof. The preliminary estimate for repair was over $15,000. This figure would be sure to increase. Now to try to get the value out of it so we can work on purchasing a replacement. We could consider something a bit larger since the Frontier has a 6,100 lb tow rating. I'm not sure I would want to go with anything too much larger though. We may just get a replacement 179. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 5:52pm
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Stephen, very sorry to hear, I know you worked hard on that TT and it was what you wanted it to be. I agree you can't go much larger. You would be pushing the Frontier. ------------- Mike Carter 2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
Posted By: birderdiane526
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 6:27pm
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We are sorry to hear, but hope it overall resolves to your satisfaction. ------------- Diane and Michael 2016 179 "PIP" (PODDING IN PARADISE) 2007 Toyota Tundra BLOG:Podding in Paradise, birderdiane526.blogspot.com |
Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 7:11pm
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Stephan, Ask them what the buy back price is, could be as low as $500. Then start bidding on this and merge the 2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2017-R-POD-179-TRAVEL-TRAILER-WITH-R-DOME-SCREEN-ROOM/192074269788?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3Dc781805aea564d8d8f0b1dfe59604b88%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D11%26rkt%3D30%26sd%3D292000577861 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2017-R-POD-179-TRAVEL-TRAILER-WITH-R-DOME-SCREEN-ROOM/192074269788?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3Dc781805aea564d8d8f0b1dfe59604b88%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D11%26rkt%3D30%26sd%3D292000577861 Sorry to here your baby is totaled. ------------- http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS John&Sue,SLO,CA 2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
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Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 7:20pm
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StephenH, I hope you had replacement insurance,. We had our TV written off
May second but luckily we had replacement insurance, but it took till Sep. 7 th to get replacement truck, Therefore no camping last year at all. All the best ------------- If you want something done right, do it yourself. 2011 RP172, 2016 Tundra 5.7 Litre, Ltd. |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 8:00pm
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I have sent all the information I have to the claims representative. I hope to hear something soon. I hope it will be high enough so that we can get a replacement before Spring. In the meantime, the Escape is still in Green River, Wyoming. I can't help wondering if repairs would be feasible if the R-Pod were taken to the factory. So much of what is in there is still in great shape. I may have to make a telephone call to Forest River in the morning. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: Wood River Pod
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 11:00pm
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I'm so sorry to hear. My airstream buddy in SLC got back to me after
you were long gone. After your latest trip, it's not that far
to Indiana... I just can't imagine you not having an rpod. ------------- Smith's in Hailey Early 2017 179 HRE http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9134&PN=1&title=wood-river-179-mods - Wood River Mods |
Posted By: Kokopod
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2017 at 9:48am
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I don't know Stephen. Unless you lose money on this loss, it having been totaled may be a blessing in disguise. I know you made lots of good mods, but as an example we had an accident in a Camaro that was less than a year old back in the day. They didn't total it - it was "fixed". That car was NEVER the same. It had leaks, squeaks, peeling paint...we were actually disappointed that it wasn't totaled, because that's what happens when repairs are made. We had a friend whose Montana was rear-ended by a Fed Ex semi. Insurance didn't total it; and after all the fixes, they traded it in anyway within a year because it wasn't ever right again. ------------- 2017 Jayco Melbourne 24k 2013 Premier 19FBPR Formerly-2013 R-pod 177HRE 2011 Dodge Durango Love a good road trip |
Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2017 at 12:12pm
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+ 1 ------------- http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS John&Sue,SLO,CA 2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
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Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2017 at 3:25pm
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Stephen,
Appears they are talking replacing the whole roof versus repairing damaged fiberglass areas, I think for what it's worth, better to let it go and see if you can buy, than to have a offsite repair facility try and replace the roof. They may have totaled it because they know there is issues with that capability. Plus having to warranty the work. Might be second blessing you got. I know from experience delamination and leaks are a real issue. I thought they would repair damaged fiberglass areas not reskin the roof. ------------- Mike Carter 2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2017 at 3:54pm
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Could you imagine the work to remove the roof panel, it must be attached to the ceiling framing somehow. and then all the corner trim and stuff on the roof taken off, and the diamond plate up front removed. And then the whole side fiberglass would have to come off to still have it be one piece fiberglass sides, which includes windows, doors, and all the little things attached to the side. As Kokopod said "it will never be the same" And i'm sure lots of little issues will be popping up forever. I've had a truck repaired with major damage and it was never the same, and the pieced together bed pretty much fell apart after a few years with the new seams coming apart. But then again..... if you bought it back cheap, did a few structural repairs to that rear corner, a fiberglass patch, and then put black diamond plate on the back just like the front, and some matching Plate the rear side(s), there really would not be anything really wrong with it. Everything else is still good. (And we know how you love a good project) I'd put the extra money in a travel account and do a monster trip with it! ,John------------- http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS John&Sue,SLO,CA 2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
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Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2017 at 5:16pm
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No I can't. +1 on your opinion. ------------- Mike Carter 2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2017 at 8:26pm
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I am talking about taking it to the factory in Goshen, Indiana. I spoke with Samantha Hoover at the warranty and service department of Forest River's factory. I also sent her pictures of the damage. I am not talking of some "offsite repair facility." This would be a factory repair. It might actually end up being a remanufacture as they would have the capability of stripping off the entire roof and sides and replacing them. Since the slide-out was not damaged, it could be removed and reused. The same with the AC unit, the antenna, Fantastic Fan, and the spoiler. I would not be disappointed if they were to just discard the current spoiler and install one of the new style spoilers though. The interior cabinetry is fine as is the shower. The floor and frame appear to be undamaged. Just one stabilizer jack was damaged. I expect a factory repair job would be essentially a remanufacturing of our escaPOD's shell. Of course, all of this would be moot if the cost for the factory repair would be too high. I won't know until I ask though. Unlike our Escape, there was no damage to the frame or suspension. We towed it across the country with our patches without problem. Hopefully, I will get an estimate from the factory in a day or two. I'll share what I find out here. If the cost is too high, I will see what the insurance settlement will be. I'll apply that to a replacement if it turns out that is the way to go. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2017 at 5:21pm
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Stephen,
You are the master of detail. I really appreciate the updates and insight. Look forward to your updates as you see fit. ------------- Mike Carter 2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 10:38am
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It has been a few days, so I thought I would post an update. I am still awaiting word from Forest River as to whether it is feasible to have the factory repair our escaPOD. I had hoped to hear something by yesterday (Friday), but that didn't happen and the offices were closed by the time I could call. OTOH, I did hear from the auto body shop. It turns out that, despite the appearance, the Escape was not damaged as severely as the picture suggests. He said the quarter-panel damage was mostly on the exterior panel and the interior panel was not badly damaged. He also said that the hitch was now replaced and the frame was straight. It will be going into the paint shop soon and then to a 4-wheel alignment. After any finishing touches, it should be ready for our daughter and son-in-law to pick it up. Once they pick the Escape up, we are going to try to sell it. The Frontier is doing okay. While I preferred the non-towing mileage and the performance of the turbocharged engine in the Escape (does not lose power at higher elevations), the Frontier does have a higher tow rating and the truck bed is handy for carrying things that would otherwise have to go on the tongue or the rear-bumper cargo carrier. (gasoline, propane, etc.). I really like the Escape but we just don't need two vehicles. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 12:10pm
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Update-7 February: I'm still waiting to hear from Forest River. I had contacted Samantha Hoover in Service last week. She said it had been forwarded to her supervisor. Hopefully, I will hear something soon.
------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: mjlrpod
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 12:56pm
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But Wait!!!! If they did a remanufacture of the outer skin as you mentioned, that would make your pod blue, but green on the inside. hmmmmm. Does this make it a one of a kind pod? And what would stop you from selling it as a 2017.5 ??? lol ------------- 2017.5 Rp-172 2020 R-pod 195 2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl I'll be rpodding |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 7:58pm
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Integrity! I think Forest River would find some green paint somewhere. If they can replace decals, I am sure it would be with original ones for 2016, not with the 2017 graphics. If for some reason it did come back with the 2017 color scheme on the outside, it would (as you say) be unique. I could say that, but then I would also disclose why it is unique. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: jglynn55
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 9:37pm
| I just found your messages. I have followed all your rpod mods over time and feel like I know you. I just thought a would drop you a note to wish you well. |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2017 at 8:34am
Thank you. I appreciate your thoughtfulness. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 5:04pm
I finally got the estimate for repairs from Forest River. It looks like our escaPOD will be repaired!  There are a couple of details to be worked out such as how to get it there (transport or we tow) and when it can be done. As I expected, the worst side (door side) will be replaced. The roof will be repaired with a new fiberglass skin installed. The other side (slide-out side) may be repaired or replaced, depending on what is found when they get it there and can take a better look. It depends on whether there was frame damage or not. It will have the original color scheme and decals. There is no worry about a mixed-up color scheme. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 5:36pm
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Good news SH. ------------- Mike Carter 2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
Posted By: voisj
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 5:38pm
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Nice!!! ------------- http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=9426&title=slopod-180-mods-johnsue - SLOPODMODS John&Sue,SLO,CA 2016 180 HRE, 2013 F150 Eco Boost
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Posted By: ribet
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 10:44pm
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I have followed your repair journey from the start. I am relieved that you are getting some headway on the repairs. I know how attached we get to our rPods!
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Posted By: birderdiane526
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2017 at 11:39pm
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Congratulations on the pending repair. Glad to hear you've gotten an answer! ------------- Diane and Michael 2016 179 "PIP" (PODDING IN PARADISE) 2007 Toyota Tundra BLOG:Podding in Paradise, birderdiane526.blogspot.com |