Considering an R-Pod
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Topic: Considering an R-Pod
Posted By: cmt489
Subject: Considering an R-Pod
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2016 at 4:41pm
We are currently looking for a lightweight trailer for family trips and I came across the R-Pod (literally saw one being towed in front of me on my commute home last night).
From what I can tell it is lighter than other similar sized trailers which is awesome as our vehicle has a 5,000 lbs towing capacity and we would like to come under that to increase range.
We have two kids and two dogs and would be looking to use the trailer a couple of times per year.
Prior to seeing the R-Pod, we were tossing around the idea of an Airstream Cloud or a pop-up. We are, however, extremely hesitant about a pop-up for many reasons which include camping in US national parks such as Yellowstone.
While I know that this is a captive audience, but I would love to hear what others love about the R-Pod and whether you are happy with it overall!
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Posted By: M&M
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2016 at 4:51pm
Good Afternoon cmt489 and Welcome to the group! My wife and I are new to camping and Travel Trailers. We picked up our 179 about six weeks ago and have been out twice already with three more trips planned. We absolutely love it. It's a perfect size for us. We tow with a 2012 Honda Pilot (rated for 4500 Lbs) with no trouble at all.
------------- 2017 179 "Big Sexy"
2012 Honda Pilot
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2016 at 4:54pm
Good to know on the towing capacity with a Pilot. How do you find the hooking up and disconnecting of the trailer since we will likely need to do this while traveling. We drive electric and most of the Supercharging stations require a back in if busy. I need something that will be easy to disconnect and then re-hook up.
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Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2016 at 8:04pm
Welcome to the group!
------------- Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2016 at 8:30pm
Originally posted by cmt489
Good to know on the towing capacity with a Pilot. How do you find the hooking up and disconnecting of the trailer since we will likely need to do this while traveling. We drive electric and most of the Supercharging stations require a back in if busy. I need something that will be easy to disconnect and then re-hook up. |
Towing with an electric vehicle? You had better hope that supercharging stations are at about a third to half the distance you are normally able to drive. I'm crazy enough to be towing with a 2L Ecoboost Ford Escape. Normal highway mileage is about 30+ mpg. Towing has ranged from about 8 to about 16 mpg. Your vehicle may be able to tow 5,000 lbs, but the air resistance of the trailer will really cut your range. What kind of vehicle are you talking about?
------------- StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2016 at 10:06pm
It is a Tesla Model X 90D.
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2016 at 10:22pm
I will add that I expect about half range which is what others are experiencing. That should get me around 200 km per charge except mountain pashe's.
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Posted By: Robert Lunsford
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2016 at 11:01pm
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2016 at 11:15pm
I think you may be optimistic on what kind of range you may get. The http://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-model-x-towing-prowess/ - CNET Road/Show web site has an article where an owner tried towing in flat terrain with a boat. It was, admittedly, heavier than a light R-Pod, but it was much lower with much less wind resistance. The real-world mileage was less than 100 miles (about 161 km). With any kind of camping trailer that has a significant frontal area, I would guess your real-world mileage, especially if you had any long, steep climbs, would be around 50 miles (about 80 km). Consider something like an A-Liner or TrailManor. They would have less wind resistance and give you more range.
------------- StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS
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Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 1:00pm
We get close to 200 miles per tank with our Highlander with 3.5L V6 towing our 179 at highway speeds. The non-towing cruising range is around 380 miles.
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 1:09pm
Yes, but your Highlander is a gasoline powered vehicle. CMT489 is thinking of towing with an electric (not a hybrid) vehicle. The only way I could see it working would be to mount a generator that can charge the vehicle while it is rolling. I don't know the specs on a Tesla Supercharging station (voltage or amperage). I do know that battery technology just is not to the point where it can replace a gasoline or diesel engine for things like towing.
------------- StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS
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Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 3:46pm
Ah, I didn't read the middle posts. Never mind.
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 3:48pm
Okay, not meaning to get into a Tesla debate with you but I have much more data available to me than this video (which I have seen before). The general consensus is that your range is cut in half. This is reliable info with people posting their range consumption stats, including with air streams, etc.
As for the video itself, a couple of comments. One, I believe that this car was a P90D which has a lower range than the 90D and uses more energy. Two, it also appears to have the 22" wheels which reduces range by an additional 15%. Third, the battery was charged to the charge limit that they had set but it was significantly less than 100% (from what I could see on the charge panel, it was around 80-85%). ?Four, they also did not have it on energy saving mode, but rather, performance mode. Finally, having towed boats before I can tell you that their aerodynamics are significantly worse than any travel trailer.
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 3:54pm
This blog might be of assistance, especially under the FAQ.
https://teslaxcanada.com
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Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 4:04pm
I've been making a big batch of BBQ sauce this afternoon which requires a beer or two or three to get just right...but I just had a brilliant idea!
How about an electric assist trailer? A potentiometer on hitch measures drag and kicks in electric assist on trailer to "push" it along when needed. Electric assist could be powered from various sources - solar, battery, on board generator, dilithium crystals or Honda 2000 in back of TV.
Back to my BBQ sauce.
fred
------------- 2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6
Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!
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Posted By: M&M
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 4:25pm
In regards to hooking up and unhooking, we've done it more then a few times now and even with the weight distribution / sway control it only takes us a few minutes...
------------- 2017 179 "Big Sexy"
2012 Honda Pilot
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Posted By: birderdiane526
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 5:12pm
Hi and welcome! We bought a gently used 2016 R-pod 179 in June. We live/travel in the trailer full time and everything works as it should. The only thing we need to do is replace the battery as it doesn't seem to be holding a charge. The layout and storage are great!
Happy trails!
------------- Diane and Michael
2016 179 "PIP" (PODDING IN PARADISE)
2007 Toyota Tundra
BLOG:Podding in Paradise,
birderdiane526.blogspot.com
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 6:24pm
Interesting blog, but they were towing an Alto. It also has a much lower profile than an R-Pod. You are welcome to try, but I think you will find that the experience on the blog would be much different if they had tried with an R-Pod or other full-height trailer. Here's a quote:
"We’re back in Supercharger Country! At least for a while. Yes, Canada
can be crossed with an EV at this point, easily. Mostly thanks to the
great work of Sun Country Highway. Just bring some time. But, sorry to say, we did miss the Tesla Superchargers! Especially with
the reduced range we have, 250km (at 60km/h with trailer) instead of
400km (at 110km/h without trailer), it is important for us to have fast
charging options to top up our range in the middle of the day.
I don't know about you. I would not want to drive across the country at 37 mph (equivalent of 60 km/h). Until there is adequate infrastructure to support electric vehicles and batteries that will give much more range, I do not see an EV as a viable option for use other than as a novelty.
------------- StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 6:34pm
Originally posted by M&M
In regards to hooking up and unhooking, we've done it more then a few times now and even with the weight distribution / sway control it only takes us a few minutes... |
Thank you. This is very helpful!
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 6:38pm
Originally posted by StephenH
Interesting blog, but they were towing an Alto. It also has a much lower profile than an R-Pod. You are welcome to try, but I think you will find that the experience on the blog would be much different if they had tried with an R-Pod or other full-height trailer. Here's a quote:"We’re back in Supercharger Country! At least for a while. Yes, Canada
can be crossed with an EV at this point, easily. Mostly thanks to the
great work of Sun Country Highway. Just bring some time. But, sorry to say, we did miss the Tesla Superchargers! Especially with
the reduced range we have, 250km (at 60km/h with trailer) instead of
400km (at 110km/h without trailer), it is important for us to have fast
charging options to top up our range in the middle of the day.I don't know about you. I would not want to drive across the country at 37 mph (equivalent of 60 km/h). Until there is adequate infrastructure to support electric vehicles and batteries that will give much more range, I do not see an EV as a viable option for use other than as a novelty. |
We will be doing all of our traveling around where Superchargers are in place. What you don't know is that it is essentially an EV black hole east of Calgary and through the prairies.
As for my personal preferences for traveling, they are just that - personal preferences. Again, I am not here to get into an EV debate on this forum, but rather, to make inquiries about this travel trailer.
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 6:39pm
Originally posted by fwunder
I've been making a big batch of BBQ sauce this afternoon which requires a beer or two or three to get just right...but I just had a brilliant idea!How about an electric assist trailer? A potentiometer on hitch measures drag and kicks in electric assist on trailer to "push" it along when needed. Electric assist could be powered from various sources - solar, battery, on board generator, dilithium crystals or Honda 2000 in back of TV. Back to my BBQ sauce. fred |
Now there is a thought with merit!
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Posted By: codycountry
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 6:48pm
I am still waiting for the day when someone writes in for advice on pulling their RPdod with an Electra Glide. It's coming, I can sense it. 
It can be done with a Harley, no doubt, but it will significantly cut the fuel mileage and pulling hills will take first gear and some time/hours. Wyoming, btw, has two supercharger stations, one is on I80 in Cheyenne, the other one, which was the first one in the state, is installed in the smallest county - population wise - and is on a rural state low traffic highway. In the small Cowtown deluxe, Lusk, Wy. Doubt there is a Tesla in Lusk or within a few hundred or more hundreds of miles. Lusk is ~350 miles east of Yellowstone/Grand Teton on the eastern Wy prairie. It is a good heartland place. They aren't into electric cars there even with the plug ins available, and they don't make electric pickup trucks, which is what most ranchers and locals there drive. The charger plug-in's there are probably full of dust or spider houses due to lack of use. I digress...... Kinda strange and goofy marketing is what everyone thought when Tesla put the station in there --- right after they all said "what the hell is a Tesla and why does it need to be plugged in"? Maybe the Tesla's have a lot of torque like a train engine and are entry level towing machines?
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 7:03pm
Wyoming now has 4 superchargers and another one under construction. Plus there is one right on the border in West Yellowstone. That said, I am sensing that there is a general dislike for electric by some here.
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Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 7:11pm
Please don't get that sense. I, for one, can't wait for a capable EV. Particularly, a self driving EV. Thanks for the inspiration! BTW, I was a bit worried towing my pod across Wyoming for lack of gas stations!
fred
------------- 2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits
2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6
Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 7:16pm
Originally posted by fwunder
Please don't get that sense. I, for one, can't wait for a capable EV. Particularly, a self driving EV. Thanks for the inspiration! BTW, I was a bit worried towing my pod across Wyoming for lack of gas stations!fred |
Thanks for that
And, for what it is worth, the Tesla X is the first EV that is specifically designed to tow and the battery packs will only get bigger. Not to mention the charging infrastructure has taken off.
And they can already self drive in limited circumstances and are working towards fully autonomous in the near future. In fact, a new update is being released today which I will be excited to try out.
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Posted By: codycountry
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 7:35pm
Yeah true , West Yellowstone has a charge station, Billings, Bozeman, Idaho Falls etc. so there are some around YNP. It will be like a sled dog race and feeding the sled dogs. I don't dislike electric, I have a lot of great rechargeable tools, razor, and an electric fence around my horse pasture, and this computer ain't solar powered. All of the trains that run around here are diesel over electric. Most folks don't know that. Lots of torque with the electric train motors. Plug in vehicles just are not suited for now in western rural areas for vehicles, if ever. And then throw in the cold and happy camping. The huge megawatt electric generating plants here in Wy that produce the power that you plug your Tesla into to recharge it all burn low-sulpher coal. How about that carbon footprint when you plug in here in Wy and nearby states? I think the Tesla electric car folks are mostly gasaphobic. Or Petrophobic. Need to come up with a good term....I don't care what you drive, drive them until they drop, recharge, go forward. What I don't like are people who try to tow trailers with vehicles that are way too underpowered or too lightweight to handle emergency stops and the weight of the vehicle they are pulling. Undersized and underpowered tow rigs s can and do kill other people, and the drivers.
I live just outside Yellowstone so I see it all. Still waiting for the Electra Glide tow rig, perhaps even an electric Electra Glide one. You might want to consider a Casita. http://casitatraveltrailers.com/
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 8:01pm
Originally posted by codycountry
What I don't like are people who try to tow trailers with vehicles that are way too underpowered or too lightweight to handle emergency stops and the weight of the vehicle they are pulling. Undersized and underpowered tow rigs s can and do kill other people, and the drivers.
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And neither do I.
What you don't know about me is that I have over 100,000 towing miles (including numerous miles in the mountains) under my belt as I used to haul a 30 ft fifth wheel horse trailer across North America in my earlier years. I know safe hauling practices and safe hauling vehicles.
I would not be considering hauling with this vehicle if it were unsafe to do so.
This vehicle is specifically designed to haul in both size and power.
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Posted By: cmt489
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 8:12pm
Since I can't seem to edit to add information, the Model X is a class 3 towing vehicle.
https://forums.tesla.com/en_CA/forum/forums/class-3-towing-capability - https://forums.tesla.com/en_CA/forum/forums/class-3-towing-capability
Edited the link so it works - techntrek
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Posted By: codycountry
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 8:27pm
Cool,
Send me a pvt. reply future-wise if you get in YNP country and perhaps we can sit around a campfire.
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 8:31pm
Several responses in one post here...
Fred - actually I've wanted to build a pusher for years. Read about it years ago in an issue of Home Power magazine. Often built on the rear half of a pickup frame since you can load it up with lead-acid weight and just need to add the electric motor on the existing drive shaft since the rest of what you need to put the power on the pavement is already there. I figured I would add a second accelerator on the left side of the brake pedal and let the gas engine idle as much as possible to power the various accessories like the brakes, power steering, etc. I'd be happy with a 50% mpg increase.
Someone suggested mounting a generator as an assist. Not nearly enough electrons to do any good compared to the power needs of an electric car.
cmt489 - welcome. On top of my knowledge of home-made electric vehicles I've also designed my own home solar system, several times over. Never could pull the pin on building it with kids to put through college and family vacations before the kids fly away. I was an advocate for the Volt years before it went to production. Can't wait for a viable mainstream truck for towing since you get full torque from a dead stop. So that puts into context what I'm going to say: as has been said already, you don't want to tow with the range your vehicle has unless it is within 100 miles and you charge for the trip home while you are in-camp. No way cross-country. Too many places you will almost run out of gas let alone try to find a charging station. Also as been said, you don't want to tow a full-height camper if you do. Aerodynamic drag has a far larger affect on mpgs (range) than weight. Real-world example, I used to tow a large popup with a Sienna. That camper was heavier than a 171 pod but of course half the height of a pod when being towed. The Sienna got 23 mpg during daily driving, 16 mpg pulling the heavier popup, and later 10-12 pulling the pod. Figure a 1/3 loss in range pulling a popup but over 50% loss in range pulling a pod (thus my suggestion to keep within 100 miles of home). You know this from pulling a horse trailer.
------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: codycountry
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 8:37pm
Hey, Thanks to my reply to your reply I see am no longer a "Groupie" and I am now a "Senior Member". Cheers!
Hint: It looks like you have to hit 100 posts to move to senior member. Thanks also go to Elon Musk for this honor. (And there are even "Grand Exaalted Leaders" on this web site. God only knows what that takes to achieve that level)
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Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 8:44pm
Congrats!!
------------- Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2016 at 9:53pm
Edited the link so it works - techntrek
Originally posted by cmt489
Since I can't seem to edit to add information, the Model X is a class 3 towing vehicle.
https://forums.tesla.com/en_CA/forum/forums/class-3-towing-capability - https://forums.tesla.com/en_CA/forum/forums/class-3-towing-capability | Trying to click on the link yields 404 - File or directory not found. I am not against what you want to do. I have no doubt that the Tesla has sufficient torque and horsepower to move a travel trailer. However, to be realistic, wind resistance is something you will have to take into consideration. Since you say you have many miles with a 5th wheel, it is not something of which you are unaware. That is why I am saying that you should also consider lower-profile trailers such as the Alto, Aliner, or other HiLow trailers.If the Tesla and other electric vehicles can reach a point where charging stations, and especially ones that can pump a charge into a vehicle as fast or almost as fast as it takes to fill a gas or diesel tank, become ubiquitous so that one does not have to worry about being stranded, I would consider it a viable option. Until then, I don't see it as practical for anything outside of local area towing.As for editing, if you want to edit a post, look for the post options at the top-right of the post which you wish to edit. The edit will be on a drop-down menu there.Edit: I found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent - this page which may be helpful. It has information about the energy equivalence of various fuels plus electricity. One gallon of gasoline is equivalent to 33.41 kWh I have seen specifications for Tesla batteries. One stated 75 kWh and 90 kWh. Another stated 100 kWh. Using the chart, this equates to about 2.25 gal (75 kWh), 2.7 gal (90 kWh), and 3 gal (100 kWh), respectively. Even changing the calculation to using 10% ethanol only yields 2.29, 2.75, and 3.05 GGE. That is totally inadequate for towing any distance, especially when taking the added wind resistance of a full-height trailer into consideration.
------------- StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2016 at 9:13am
StephenH, good post, sums it up well. When I was driving through many parts of the US west of the Mississippi if I got down to 2-3 gallons of gas I was starting to seriously worry about filling up because that only left me 20-30 miles before I was sitting on the side of the road. Starting out with 2-3 gallons equivalent of energy is a problem.
cmt489 - I came back to this thread to try to sum it up this way: towing is a very energy-intensive activity, and while electric motors are perfect for towing (thus their use by railroads for high torque to get thousands of tons moving from a dead stop) the current energy storage and recharging options are not - except in limited use-cases.
Or to put it another way, if it was a good option for highway use the trucking industry would already be using it. The only reason railroads do is they can either get unlimited supply from catenaries, third rail, or they can carry a very large load of diesel (with the downside of high conversion losses chemical-kinetic-electric).
------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2016 at 9:16am
Oh, and I don't think you can edit a post after someone has replied to it.
I fixed the link to that forum discussion.
------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2016 at 9:31am
I started skimming through that forum discussion and saw this:
johnse | May 26, 2015
Just thinking about the actual work imparted on the trailer to bring it to Siskiyou pass elevation 1314m (assuming from sea level)...
mass = 2721 kg
g = 9.8 m/s^2
d = 1314 m
Work = m * g * d = 35.04MJ = 9733 Wh or 9.733 kWh
So, ignoring the aerodynamic drag, this would imply that about 11% of an 85kWh battery's charge would be spent hauling the extra mass up the mountain.
This suggests that towing isn't actually as detrimental range as one might have thought. Drag might be, but you can mitigate that by driving more slowly or having more streamlined trailers.
Please point out if my 40-years dormant physics has flaws in it :)
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jjs | May 26, 2015
@johnse Although the 85kWH battery has at least the capacity to store 85kWH of power when new, not all of it is usable. Some is saved as a buffer to protect the battery from damage. It has been estimated at about 10%. So assume usable battery power of 76.5 kWH. So if your calculations regarding the work required is correct it would be more like 13%. Still not too bad. If you consider a round trip then you get to recover some of that on the trip back down.
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georgehawley.fl.us | May 26, 2015
@johnse: let's see. There is also the work getting the MX up the mountain, another 2.3 kg. there is also the rolling friction to overcome, about 300 wh/mile for the trailer plus the MX and then there's the drag depending on speed. 150 miles gobbles up more than 45 kWh on top of the 20 kWh of work elevating the car plus load. That's 65 kWh not counting drag and things like climate control. That's why 150 miles is a stretch.
But it is still pretty good.
[Farther down someone else mentioned it would be good for short-haul towing but not for long-haul for the reasons that we've already mentioned on this thread. And note that the 1314 m (4311 ft) pass mentioned above is just one mountain, depending on where you are going you can go over multiple passes - techntrek]
------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2016 at 10:03am
Edit post is still an option in the Post Options list, even after additional replies have been posted. I just checked my post above and did an edit to make sure.
I do hope that battery technology or some other form of energy storage other than gasoline or diesel with sufficient energy density to be practical will become available soon. Unfortunately, there are no technologies that I know of that would suffice at the present. I had high hopes that fuel cell technology would improve sufficiently to work, but it seems to have faded and the money has gone into battery technology instead.
------------- StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS
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Posted By: Skryll
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2016 at 4:07pm
Looks like California is giving higher incentives to hydrogen cars than to electric vehicles these days, so the experiments are still being encouraged. I think for most people battery will make more sense though, because you mostly just plug in over night in your garage and with solar panels on the roof of the house you don't have to worry about your consumption not being offset by clean energy. Always full in the morning and never having to stop to fill up is hard to beat, for those 90% of driving we do for our daily things. And supercharging works rather well when we go the distance, which is not that often but when we do we don't mind, i.e. 900 mile round trip to family in southern california, or into the sierra mountains for camping etc.
That being said, I am also interested in how it turns out to pull an rpod with a model X, and would love to rent one northern california to just try it out, for impact on range as much as for how my family likes this style of vacation. We have done camping plenty and getting older I now sometimes would prefer a real mattress ;)
Are there any good affordable places for renting rpods / airstreams / etc?
I am especially interested in the Forest River R-Pod RP-172 as mentioned on http://topratedtraveltrailers.com/4-lightweight-travel-trailers-3500-lbs/
Any replies to the topic of where to rent those welcome :)
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2016 at 5:31pm
Welcome. Just keep in mind the range limits we've discussed.
------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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