Inverter/Generator help needed
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Topic: Inverter/Generator help needed
Posted By: mjh203
Subject: Inverter/Generator help needed
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 7:07pm
Hello,
I did a bunch of research on portable generators and decided on a new Generac iQ2000 Inverter. It is quieter than a Honda EU2000 and had really good reviews. So, I went on a trip and tried to use this for the first time on my 2015 R-Pod 178. The generator fired right up and gave me the green ready light. As soon as I plug in the camper, it switches to red and will not power anything in the R-Pod. The only things turned on in the camper are the clock on the microwave which instantly comes on with electric and the clock on the Radio/DVD player. I cant turn these off. Everything else was off and/or unplugged.
I tested my dads old 1978 camper with the iQ2000 and it worked just fine. Not enough to power the AC, but lights and outlets worked fine.
What am I doing wrong? Shouldn't this unit be adequate for this small little camper? Thoughts or suggestions?
I went ahead and returned the iQ2000 today. Suggestions from any other R-Pod owners for a good size inverter/generator unit?
Thanks
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Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 8:57pm
That genny should be fine to run the pod as long as it's not the a/c. My bet is a ground issue.
http://noshockzone.org/generator-ground-neutral-bonding/ - Link.
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Posted By: mjh203
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 9:01pm
I'll check out the ground issue....thanks!
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Posted By: WillThrill
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 9:56pm
Originally posted by furpod
That genny should be fine to run the pod as long as it's not the a/c. My bet is a ground issue.
http://noshockzone.org/generator-ground-neutral-bonding/ - Link.
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A cheap outlet tester that can be bought at a local hardware store will tell the tale. Just plug it into an AC outlet when you have shore power and see what it reads.
And you can turn off the microwave and almost anything else by switching off the appropriate breaker in the panel. Oftentimes, folks that successfully run their AC with a 2 kW generator have to do this in order to turn off the converter/charger, which can draw several hundred watts if it's charging the batteries.
------------- "Not all those who wander are lost." Tolkien
2014 Hood River 177
2005 GMC Envoy XL
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Posted By: Jackdaddy
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2016 at 11:52am
Hi All,
I purchased a Honda EU Invertor 2000i Companion 30a generator a few months ago and finally used it with my 2014 Rpod 182G and it worked great. I was told that it would not power the A/C but those who said it wouldn't were wrong. It was 95 degrees here in San Gabriel, Ca yesterday so I hook up the generator again to just verify it runs the A/C and sure enough it works great.
Steve
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Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2016 at 12:40pm
Hondas are known for exceeding their surge ratings, which is one of the things that makes them preferred if money is no object. We just bought one regular EU2000i and one Companion.
I'm not sure I'd trust a single EU2000i if I'm running anything other than the A/C. Was your battery fully charged? If so, that's probably why it worked: very little power zapped by the converter.
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Posted By: Jackdaddy
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2016 at 1:12pm
The battery was 80% charged. I also had two lights on and the TV on with no problems.
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Posted By: WillThrill
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2016 at 1:47pm
Originally posted by Jackdaddy
The battery was 80% charged. I also had two lights on and the TV on with no problems.
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Once a lead acid battery reaches about 80% capacity, a 3 stage charger like the one in the Pod's converter/charger will step down the amperage, usually to around 6 amps or 72 watts, plus the wattage consumed by the converter/charger itself. So it wasn't drawing much.
I've heard numerous reports of people running their AC with a Honda or Yamaha 2 kw generator (it seems like about half or fewer are successful), but I haven't heard the same of any other brands of 2 kw generators.
------------- "Not all those who wander are lost." Tolkien
2014 Hood River 177
2005 GMC Envoy XL
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Posted By: Jackdaddy
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2016 at 1:52pm
I appreciate the advice.
Thanks!
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2016 at 11:26pm
I have been able to run the AC with a Generac iX2000. It is rated at 2000 Watts running with 2200 surge Watts. Some of the others, the iQ2000 included, are 2000 Watts surge but only 1600 Watts running. Those 400 Watts make a difference.
------------- StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS
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Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2016 at 12:28pm
Originally posted by Jackdaddy
The battery was 80% charged. I also had two lights on and the TV on with no problems.
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Also, were you running Eco mode? If you run the generator flat out all the time, you'll burn through gas a lot more quickly. I would guess that two parallel-connected Honda 2000s would use less gas over a period of time on Eco mode than a single 2000 with Eco mode off, given a typical cycling load.
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Posted By: MDPaddlersPod
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2016 at 9:41am
I just picked up my 179 a week and a half ago. I am going on my first trip this weekend but, I ran my 179 on the driveway with A/C blazing and any power I wanted to use with my Honda 3000is. I found that after everything was up and running that I could switch to the low power setting. I love the 3000is but honestly it is heavy to tote. The generator is 135 pounds dry. I use a fold-up furniture dolly to move it around.
------------- MDPaddlersPod
2017 RPod 179
2002 Silverado1500
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Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2016 at 11:44am
Originally posted by MDPaddlersPod
I love the 3000is but honestly it is heavy to tote. The generator is 135 pounds dry. I use a fold-up furniture dolly to move it around. |
This is exactly the reason we opted for a dual parallel EU2000i setup. It's much easier to move two 2000s than one 3000.
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Posted By: WillThrill
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2016 at 12:11pm
And that's why I love my Yamaha 2400iSHC. It will power the AC just fine, and at 75 pounds, it's movable. I didn't want to go with dual 2k units as this would cost about $2,100 for Honda or Yamaha.
Looking back, though, I would strongly consider dual 2k Champion inverter generators for about $1,100 total. I've heard a lot of good things about them.
------------- "Not all those who wander are lost." Tolkien
2014 Hood River 177
2005 GMC Envoy XL
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Posted By: mjh203
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 8:59am
Thanks for all the suggestions!
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Posted By: MDPaddlersPod
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 11:06am
I fully understand going lighter on the generator but, mine was given to me with 30 hours.....I am determined to make it work at that price.
------------- MDPaddlersPod
2017 RPod 179
2002 Silverado1500
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Posted By: mjh203
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 11:21am
How is the noise on the 3000?
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Posted By: mjh203
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 11:22am
Any idea if the noise of the Yamaha 2400 is much louder than a Honda 2000?
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Posted By: WillThrill
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 11:30am
Originally posted by mjh203
How is the noise on the 3000? |
The Honda EU3000is is, reportedly, the most quiet generator available on the market of any type or size. At idle, it's decibel rating is 49, which is less than half the volume of a normal conversation at 60 decibels. IMHO, that is about the only advantage of going with that generator as opposed to dual 2 kW models. The sound level will be significantly higher with the dual approach, but if you don't need your AC, you can power just one of them and save on fuel, plus they are much more mobile.
------------- "Not all those who wander are lost." Tolkien
2014 Hood River 177
2005 GMC Envoy XL
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Posted By: WillThrill
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 11:35am
Originally posted by mjh203
Any idea if the noise of the Yamaha 2400 is much louder than a Honda 2000? |
It is slightly louder, but not by much, especially at low loads. When you're running the AC and the Yamaha is running full bore, it's noticeably louder, but this is to be expected.
To put it in perspective, at low loads, my Yamaha cannot be heard at all more than about 100 ft. away if we're in a campground with bushes and shrubbery around.
It's funny how quickly you become accustomed to how different brands of generators sound. When I was walking through Sugar Pine State Park's campground in Lake Tahoe last month, I heard an inverter generator running and instantly knew that it wasn't a Honda or Yamaha. Sure enough, it was a Champion 2 kW. Its sound level was slightly higher than with the top brands, but I was very impressed, especially considering that it's half the price.
------------- "Not all those who wander are lost." Tolkien
2014 Hood River 177
2005 GMC Envoy XL
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Posted By: WillThrill
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 11:45am
Originally posted by TheBum
Originally posted by Jackdaddy
The battery was 80% charged. I also had two lights on and the TV on with no problems.
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Also, were you running Eco mode? If you run the generator flat out all the time, you'll burn through gas a lot more quickly. I would guess that two parallel-connected Honda 2000s would use less gas over a period of time on Eco mode than a single 2000 with Eco mode off, given a typical cycling load. |
Honda's Eco-Throttle can, according to their website, reduce fuel consumption by up to 40%. The only way you would see that kind of fuel savings, though, is you had the Eco-Throttle turned off and were running a very low load on the generator. So dual Honda 2 kW generators will always consume more fuel than one, assuming that the wattage being consumed is the same.
http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/inverter-generator-advantages
------------- "Not all those who wander are lost." Tolkien
2014 Hood River 177
2005 GMC Envoy XL
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Posted By: mjh203
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 11:54am
Has anyone tried one of these....
https://www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratton-30545-PowerSmart-3000-Watt/dp/B00IWJOOU8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468511593&sr=8-1&keywords=inverter+generator+30amp
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Posted By: WillThrill
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 11:59am
Originally posted by mjh203
Has anyone tried one of these....
https://www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratton-30545-PowerSmart-3000-Watt/dp/B00IWJOOU8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468511593&sr=8-1&keywords=inverter+generator+30amp |
I have not, but I have heard many good things about the Champion 3100 watt inverter generator, and it's over $300 less. I would not personally consider B&S to be of higher quality than Champion given my prior experience with the latter's generators and others'.
------------- "Not all those who wander are lost." Tolkien
2014 Hood River 177
2005 GMC Envoy XL
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Posted By: mjh203
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 12:02pm
Looks like the Champion is a good price...and you can get it with wireless remote start which would be cool...
https://www.amazon.com/Champion-Power-Equipment-75537i-Generator/dp/B00JZQUSAC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468512025&sr=8-1&keywords=inverter+generator+champion
Has anyone owned one of these and have had good or bad luck?
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Posted By: JandL
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 2:39pm
The Champion Power Equipment 100156 gasoline powered generator produces 2800 running watts (23 amps) and 3100 starting watts. I picked this generator because it comes with the neutral wire already bonded to the frame, and to run my air conditioner. Gross Weight 96.3 lb. (43.7 kg) $700 from Costco. The only time I have used my generator to power my AC is in my driveway to try it out. It has been a good generator, always starts, but it takes 2 people to get into my truck. If I had to do it again I would consider the 2000 watt unit. It won’t run the AC, but it is lighter and smaller in size. The Champion Power Equipment 73534i gasoline powered generator produces 1600 running watts (13 amps) and 2000 starting watts, Gross Weight 55.1 lb. (25 kg). $425 from Amazon, Parallel Power Kit for 73536i, $73. ( 2 paralleled together gives you 26 amps, more than enough to start the AC.)
------------- JandL
2013 Honda Ridgeline
2012 177
2 Paynes in a Pod
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Posted By: MDPaddlersPod
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2016 at 3:33pm
I used the Honda 3000is on a 90 degree day with the AC on full blast. After the AC started I was able to turn the generator to the ECO position and run everything.
------------- MDPaddlersPod
2017 RPod 179
2002 Silverado1500
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