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Topic: Black tank flush winterization
Posted By: RescapePod
Subject: Black tank flush winterization
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2014 at 12:18pm
How do you do the winterization of black tank flush system in 179?

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2015 R-Pod 179
2013 Chevy K1500



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Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2014 at 12:43pm
You are the first to ask as far as I know. The system empties into the black tank. so it should be empty/drained already. there is a backflow preventer, but I am not sure on it's specs. I guess I would physically look to see if it was holding any water on the outboard side of the valve.


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Posted By: wildfire305
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2014 at 12:44pm
I blew mine out with compressed air for 5 minutes using a compressor hose adapter.

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Posted By: wildfire305
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2014 at 12:46pm
There is a check valve on the hose connection and a vacuum breaker inside behind the sink. That one foot section will hold water unless it is dealt with. Perhaps that is why so many people have leaks on that section besides forest river installing the vacuum breaker backwards.

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Posted By: RescapePod
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2014 at 1:15pm
Is there any way to get pink stuff to it?

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2013 Chevy K1500


Posted By: wildfire305
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2014 at 1:31pm
Yes. but I don't think it's necessary, five minutes of compressed air would dry the pipe. However, if you do not have access to a compressor then...
Get a 1/2 female iron pipe by 3/4" male garden hose threaded adapter (large box store or plumbing supply). Connect that to your blue low point drain. Connect a clean garden hose from the low point drain to the black water flush. Put another gallon of antifreeze into the winterization hose under the bed and turn on the pump. It will pump it from the antifreeze bottle, through the low point, out the garden hose and into the black flush line.

Also remember to close all of your faucets before doing this and open them afterwards. Always store the pod over winter with open faucets. 


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Posted By: RescapePod
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2014 at 1:46pm
Thanks wildfire305

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2013 Chevy K1500


Posted By: wildfire305
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2014 at 2:02pm
The fresh water also has a check valve. But you can bump the little button on the center of the hose connection under pressure with pink and that will solve that too. Some disagree, but I also put a gallon in the fresh water tank to pinkify the suction line to the pump.

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Posted By: kymooses
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2014 at 9:24pm
No need to do anything to the black tank one.  The valve has a gravity ball in it.  What doesn't drain into your black tank when using it, falls back out the line when you're done.   You'll always notice when you disconnect it that water will run back out of it.

I've specifically asked Forest River this question because I was curious about mine years ago when they first launched.


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Posted By: MoggerPod
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2014 at 9:33am
On my 177, the inlet for the tank flush is elevated above floor level. This line drops under the floor and then up to the check valve located near the bathroom sink. That entire section of line will hold water if not blown out during winterization.

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Durango, CO
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Posted By: 2McPods
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2014 at 1:58pm
Originally posted by wildfire305

 

Also remember to close all of your faucets before doing this and open them afterwards. Always store the pod over winter with open faucets. 

We winterized with the pink stuff, do we still need to open all faucets over winter?

Thanks,
Viki


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2014 F150
Pittsburgh, Pa


Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2014 at 4:16pm
Once the antifreeze is in the lines no need to worry about keeping them open or closed.

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Posted By: kymooses
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2014 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by MoggerPod

On my 177, the inlet for the tank flush is elevated above floor level. This line drops under the floor and then up to the check valve located near the bathroom sink. That entire section of line will hold water if not blown out during winterization.

You've taken yours apart to look at it?  On all of them that I've seen the line comes in, goes up to the valve and then drops from the valve through the floor to the tank.

Things do get put together differently Pod to Pod at times though.


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Posted By: MoggerPod
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2014 at 9:55am
On my 177, the hose port is on the slideout side, the check valve is on the door side of the pod (under shower sink). There is 5-6 feet of line that will not drain unless it is blown out during winterization.

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Durango, CO
2014 RP177HRE


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2014 at 1:02pm
Originally posted by MoggerPod

On my 177, the hose port is on the slideout side, the check valve is on the door side of the pod (under shower sink). There is 5-6 feet of line that will not drain unless it is blown out during winterization.


The water inlet on the slide side is for the freshwater, on the door side of the Pod should be the BW flush hookup. They don't put them on the same side so people don't hookup non potable to potable and vice versa. At least that is the ONLY way I have ever seen a pod set up.


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Posted By: Hayduke
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by furpod


The water inlet on the slide side is for the freshwater, on the door side of the Pod should be the BW flush hookup. They don't put them on the same side so people don't hookup non potable to potable and vice versa. At least that is the ONLY way I have ever seen a pod set up.


Mine are both on the slide side.


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Posted By: kymooses
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 9:21am
Originally posted by Hayduke

Originally posted by furpod


The water inlet on the slide side is for the freshwater, on the door side of the Pod should be the BW flush hookup. They don't put them on the same side so people don't hookup non potable to potable and vice versa. At least that is the ONLY way I have ever seen a pod set up.


Mine are both on the slide side.

Yuh actually spoke with the plant manager for the Dallas plant, they as often as possible on HRE's try to put them both on the off door side whereas Goshen does the opposite.  

Again, that line does not need winterizing the gravity check valve is the highest point in that system and even on a long hose the excess water is going to drain down and dribble out the bib where the hose connects on any model.


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Posted By: MoggerPod
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 9:25am
The first time I tried to use the tank flush, there was no water flowing due to the check valve being installed backwards. I checked the lines routing trying to figure out the issue.
Seriously,,,,On my 177, the hose port is on the slideout side, the check valve is on the door side of the pod (under shower sink). There is 5-6 feet of line that will not drain unless it is blown out during winterization.

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Durango, CO
2014 RP177HRE


Posted By: kymooses
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 4:39pm
Originally posted by MoggerPod

The first time I tried to use the tank flush, there was no water flowing due to the check valve being installed backwards. I checked the lines routing trying to figure out the issue.
Seriously,,,,On my 177, the hose port is on the slideout side, the check valve is on the door side of the pod (under shower sink). There is 5-6 feet of line that will not drain unless it is blown out during winterization.

Yuh, I'm with you there, understand that yours is on the off door side.  I just don't understand why you think that hose will not drain.  The connection is lower than the check valve, why will yours not drain back out of the connection just like others?  There's nothing to block the excess water from flowing back out the connector when you unhook.

I can see that yes not every single drop might not come out, but any residual that doesn't just flow back out the connector piece will expand within the hose if it freezes and not cause any problem.  Your hose would have to be completely full of water with no place left for it to expand for it to cause an issue.  






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Posted By: MoggerPod
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 10:57am
I guess I am assuming that since the hose port is elevated about a foot above floor level, the entire hose section under the floor will stay full. ( If I understand how gravity works??) Your results may vary....







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Durango, CO
2014 RP177HRE


Posted By: kymooses
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 5:55pm
Originally posted by MoggerPod

I guess I am assuming that since the hose port is elevated about a foot above floor level, the entire hose section under the floor will stay full. ( If I understand how gravity works??) Your results may vary....



Regardless, just glad your process works for you.  Really appreciate you sharing your own experiences with yours!!

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