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Topic: Safety Question?
Posted By: David and Danette
Subject: Safety Question?
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 12:53pm
    We have decided to try and store our extra propane tank in our storage compartment. My question there is a light switch near the location of the propane tank. Is this safe, is it possible if everything went wrong the tank would have to leak propane and the light switch would have to spark. Its unlikely all would happen at the same time but if it did would the electrical spark ignite the propane? Should the two be placed near one another?     Thank you

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2018 Vista Cruiser 19BFD (2018-              
2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019)
2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014)
Middle Tn
2014 Ram 1500 Quad cab





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Posted By: kymooses
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 1:18pm
It would be a lot of worst case scenarios for this to occur, this is merely and opinion though.  

Propane's concentration range is kind of narrow once it mixes with air, less that 2.2% or more than 9.6% vapor to air mix and it won't ignite.





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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 8:41pm
Would the tank be upright?  Definitely don't store it on its side.  Also what are the chances of that compartment getting hot, forcing the tank to vent?

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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual


Posted By: Podster
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2014 at 10:18pm
Here is the word straight from the Amerigas propane safety manual...




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Cliff & Raelynn
Ranger 4.0/178
(1/2 ton 5,800lb tow capacity)


Posted By: Budward
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 3:20am
Originally posted by David and Danette

    We have decided to try and store our extra propane tank in our storage compartment.


Why not add a two tank rack to the tongue?  Cost me only about $30 to do so, tank is outside where it is safe and no worries about leaks.  


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2014 179
Towed by a 2015 Ford Transit Diesel
Supervised by a German/Aussie mix and a Labradoodle!


Posted By: David and Danette
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 5:15am
   Thank you for your replies. With the Vibe there is not a open tongue for space to store a propane tank. Where I have thought to store it, the tank would be upright not on its side. The storage compartment does not get that warm where I think that would be a problem. The problem would be ventilation, I think I'm running out of options. If I store it in that back of our truck that gets hot and there to could be a problem with temperature. It maybe that their is no option and will have to live with one tank. Never thought about this being a problem but you are not left with much choice having a V-front and no open tongue where generally propane tanks are stored. Unhappy

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2018 Vista Cruiser 19BFD (2018-              
2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019)
2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014)
Middle Tn
2014 Ram 1500 Quad cab




Posted By: CharlieM
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 7:46am
Dave,

Have you measured the actual temperature in the back of your truck? I think most flat tonneau type covers breath pretty easily. Probably not so for a full topper. When I fill my 20# tanks I carry them standing up in my truck with the cover closed. Just fits. Try measuring the temp in the truck in the sun on a hot day. A remote reading electronic thermometer works great, but any thermometer you can read quickly will do.


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Charlie
Northern Colorado
OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD
PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD


Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 8:02am
Is there room in the Vibe to move up to a 30 or 40 pound tank?  Same diameter, just taller.

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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual


Posted By: David and Danette
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 8:44am
   There is no room for a larger tank. I'm shopping for a wireless indoor outdoor thermometer. I think the back of the truck might work out. I wish the refrigerator would work on 12 volts. Would a wireless indoor outdoor thermometer work for the refrigerator too? Does anyone have any recommendations for a thermometer? 

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2018 Vista Cruiser 19BFD (2018-              
2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019)
2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014)
Middle Tn
2014 Ram 1500 Quad cab




Posted By: CharlieM
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 9:01am
Most likely the wireless therms will work for the fridge too. I say "most likely" because every fridge is different. That said, I am using one to periodically check my freezer and I did use one in the RPOD fridge. Most modern fridges have plastic doors so the wireless devices work fine. I have used different models from Acurite. Cheap, available (Wally World, HD, Lowes), and functional. If you can find one with two remote sensors you can monitor fridge and outside temp. And no, you don't want a fridge to run on 12V. It'll suck your
little battery to zero in no time. Either 120V shore power or sip on propane is best.

The lack of expandability for propane and battery was one of the negatives I noted for the Vibes.


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Charlie
Northern Colorado
OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD
PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 11:43am
When we looked at the first vibe we saw, first thing I noticed was the way the battery and gas were done,Didn't like it at all. I think storing in the rear compartment/storage area is doable, here is how I would do it...
Build a smaller compartment inside that compartment, and make sure it's pretty well sealed, then add a vent to the outside. Done. Our airstream batteries are inside the trailer, and they are in a plastic box, that is vented out of the trailer body.


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Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 1:47pm
It says not to store cylinder in excessive heat, I wander how hot it gets under those black covers on the newer models.

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If you want something done right, do it yourself.
2011 RP172, 2016 Tundra 5.7 Litre, Ltd.




Posted By: Budward
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2014 at 4:28pm
I took the cover off mine the minute I got home...to me they are like a toupee-   everyone knows what you are trying to hide so what is the pointLOL

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2014 179
Towed by a 2015 Ford Transit Diesel
Supervised by a German/Aussie mix and a Labradoodle!


Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2014 at 7:39am
Yeah, I've wondered about all the black trim and accessories on the newer pods.  The whole reason campers are generally white (or light color) is to reflect heat.  Maybe not as important in the age of A/C, but still a benefit it you are boondocking.

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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual



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