179 owners- Jensen TV NOT 12v??
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Topic: 179 owners- Jensen TV NOT 12v??
Posted By: Budward
Subject: 179 owners- Jensen TV NOT 12v??
Date Posted: 02 May 2014 at 7:44pm
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In my 179 the Jensen TV has a big sticker on the screen saying it is 12v. There is only an AC cord going to it and I see NO place to connect 12V. WTH? Does anyone else have this? Sticker on back of TV says JE1914- no manual was included with the r-pod and I haven't been able to find one online  |
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Posted By: OhTallMan
Date Posted: 02 May 2014 at 10:40pm
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This should be what you're looking for: http://www.jensenrvdirect.com/downloads/dl/file/id/598/14_series_tv_manual.pdf ------------- ______________________________ 2014 Honda Ridgeline 2014 R-Pod 178 |
Posted By: Budward
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 5:07am
Thanks, yeah I eventually found the same manual although it makes no mention of power sources. Jensen sells an accessory kit for my model that includes the remote and a DC power cord. A DC power cord for an AC only TV??  There is no mention of this model TV in their sales literature. When we were shopping we saw the sticker on it that said "12v DC-Perfect for dry camping" which is 99% of our camping! I hope other 179 owners will comment on what is in theirs.  |
Posted By: Boomertype
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 3:51pm
Was that sticker on your TV or in one you looked at? I think you need to have a conversation with your dealer and get it exchanged. |
Posted By: Budward
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 5:34pm
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It is on our actual tv. I may try to call the dealer Monday and see what they say- from there I'm on to contacting Forest River. It might be interesting to contact Jensen and see what they say since they made it and put the sticker on it. I'm betting FR will say "specifications subject to change without notice", but the since the television SAYS it is 12v right there on it that would be hard to justify. |
Posted By: kymooses
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 6:35pm
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Our Jensen TV in our 181g has the 12v plug and we have the outlets for it standard as well. Probably that same TV. Why only the 18xg models have standard 12 outlets and stuff is beyond me though. ------------- https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid=cnBvZC5zcG90dGVyQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ - RPod Rallies https://www.google.com/maps/d/embed?mid=1W1foQXGtrjf8aYly1uh0b-bHPfI&hl=en_US - RPod Owner Map |
Posted By: Budward
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 7:40am
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Jensen responded promptly yesterday stating the television is not 12v and the picture of the accessory pack with the DC power cord is "generic", there is in fact no DC cord in it. They did ask for pics of the tv with the 12V sticker and the model/serial number- we'll see where that goes. Puzzling why FR would use a tv that is not 12V when it is connected to an entertainment center that is 12V  ------------- 2014 179 Towed by a 2015 Ford Transit Diesel Supervised by a German/Aussie mix and a Labradoodle! |
Posted By: Boomertype
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 9:24am
| The TVs are installed by the dealer, not FR. Part of the final prep. Most PNW dealers install them just before you take delivery. They are a big theft item for trailers sitting on a lot. |
Posted By: retireclose
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 9:37am
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I have a model 179. My Jensen is not 12v. Also, there are no 12v sockets to be had in the 179 ------------- Gary and Jill Winters Bella Golden Retriever 2014 Silverado 1500 2015 R-Pod 179 -(SOLD) 
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 9:38am
You aren't the only one wondering, here's a post I made on the Wish List back in 2009 asking basically the same question. http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=879&title=change-the-tv-to-a-12v-dc-model - http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=879&title=change-the-tv-to-a-12v-dc-model ------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual 
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Posted By: kymooses
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 10:14am
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I'll have to go and take a picture of my 12v Jensen TV that came with my 181g tonight. I'll see if I have the model number on it as well. ------------- https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid=cnBvZC5zcG90dGVyQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ - RPod Rallies https://www.google.com/maps/d/embed?mid=1W1foQXGtrjf8aYly1uh0b-bHPfI&hl=en_US - RPod Owner Map |
Posted By: Budward
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 1:14pm
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Received another email from Jansen - quote- "I apologize for the inconvenience but the JE1914 is an AC only TV and will not work on 12VDC. The sticker you see attached is incorrect and was placed on the wrong TV. This issue has been addressed and corrected at our manufacturing facility." Emphasis in red is mine. Just for grins- I'm going to ask them to swap out my tv since it was their mistake in labeling, not holding my breath though..  I do plan on installing my SunForce* 1000w pure sine invertor as I'll need it for my CPAP machine at night when dry camping, which is 98% of use. So in the rare occasions we actually watch tv when camping I'll be able to power it anyway. *Beware if you buy a Sunforce- works great when it works, however my first one developed a problem after a year, and they were very slow to get it handled. Sent it to them and then months went by. Since it had a 2 year warranty they did finally replace it, after repeated phone calls and emails. Was actually going to buy their much larger unit 3000 watt as well, but not now. ------------- 2014 179 Towed by a 2015 Ford Transit Diesel Supervised by a German/Aussie mix and a Labradoodle! |
Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 1:25pm
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Can't hurt to try to get a swap!
Rule of thumb for inverters - once you get above 1000 watts you want to switch to 24 or 48 volts. At 1000 watts the load is over 80 amps @ 12 volts. That takes some seriously thick wiring to prevent a voltage drop even over short distances. For comparison a 3000 watt load @ 48 volts is a little over 60 amps. ------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 1:53pm
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With regard to CPAP, I have mentioned before I use a ResMed s8 which allows for 12 volt operation sans humidifier. You could make your own adapter or buy http://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed-dc-12-converter-s8-machines.html Good discussion: http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t9828/Using-a-Resmed-S8-on-12V-power.html
It only has a 1.5 amp draw so it's very easy on the batteries. That, with a small inverter ( I use a 120 watt one ) for TV and charging laptop(s) it's not a lot of drain. Hope that helps. fred ------------- 2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits 2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6 Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks! |
Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 3:27pm
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That reminds me, that's another reason to use a smaller inverter when possible - the standby load of the inverter itself is always smaller with a smaller inverter. I follow this at home with generators during outages. My big 12 kw generator only runs for my water heater and well pump, the other 22-23 hours a day I use something much more efficient. ------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 5:54pm
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I've wondered that about standby load on inverters. I guess that's why most of the good larger inverters have a remote to turn them off. At home I was hoping to do as you suggest, using my 12kw Generac when needed for well and furnace and the pod Yamaha 2400 for "off-peak". I spoke with my electrician who installed my transfer switch and 50A outdoor connector. I think it was Charlie who first suggested "it's not a plug and play solution" as I thought it might be or it was you. He/you were right. There's always extension cords...or male-male suicide connector from Yamaha generator. Really, I promise I won't do that! fred ------------- 2014 RPod 178 => https://goo.gl/CV446f - MyMods and Buying Habits 2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6 Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks! |
Posted By: kymooses
Date Posted: 06 May 2014 at 7:13pm
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 07 May 2014 at 8:04am
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Moved the last 2 posts to a new thread in the Misc section, since we are off-topic.
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4693 -
http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4693 ------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: Budward
Date Posted: 15 May 2014 at 10:35am
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Heard back from Jensen re: my request to swap the tv since it was mislabeled.-
NOPE.
Not their fault (they say) since FR elected to put a 110VAC tv in a camper, never mind that Jensen mislabeled it.... ------------- 2014 179 Towed by a 2015 Ford Transit Diesel Supervised by a German/Aussie mix and a Labradoodle! |
Posted By: Budward
Date Posted: 29 May 2014 at 7:22pm
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Just for grins stopped at my dealer this morning- they had a 2015 179 on the lot. Guess what? Has a Jensen TV labeled 12V just like mine- same TV, 110VAC only  ------------- 2014 179 Towed by a 2015 Ford Transit Diesel Supervised by a German/Aussie mix and a Labradoodle! |