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Topic: 12 volt outlet
Posted By: Deltafrog
Subject: 12 volt outlet
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 10:43am
Will adding 12 volt outlets by T tap affect my warrenty??????




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Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 11:12am
You could keep this discussion all in one post since it is all going to be about 12v socket mod in your trailer, but the answer is.. maybe. The way warranty work works is...

If a mod causes the issue, then yes the mod may affect the warranty on that item. For instance, you tap into the furnace wires, and the furnace goes out.. a dealer MIGHT make a case for the wiring mod being a contributor. might. But lets say you do it and the gas cook top stops working.. non issue. or fridge, or windows leak, etc.


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Posted By: Deltafrog
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 11:21am
Thank you. 


Posted By: Outbound
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 11:59am
For the most part, Forest River handles warranty issues in good faith.

However, as http://rpod-owners.com/member_profile.asp?PF=936 - furpod , any collateral damage you may cause is definitely not covered.  You may also run into issues of differences of opinion: e.g. if your converter fails, Forest River may decide your installation of a 12v outlet caused the failure; you may disagree with this - but, really, you'll have no recourse.


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Craig :: 2009 RP171 towed by a 2017 F150


Posted By: Deltafrog
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 4:08pm
Well I sure like 12 volt ability,when boondocking. i have hugh amounts of BLM around here and it is all pretty much dry camps. Wonder if the dealer could install some outlets for me? 


Posted By: Goose
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 5:05pm
I just put in 2 12-volt outlets, used 12 gauge wire so they could easily handle a fan or any thing else. I ran straight from the fuse panel so the line is on it's own and fused. It took a little more wire because I ran it from the fuse panel with all of the wires running to the back and used the wire hangers that where already there. Goose

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Mother Goose's Caboose..2011 RP171..07 Grand Cherokee


Posted By: OhTallMan
Date Posted: 02 May 2014 at 11:51pm
When you folks are adding these 12V outlets in various places, are you running wires through walls, underneath the unit, or what? If through walls, how easy/hard is it to remove wall panels to do so?

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Posted By: Budward
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 5:16am
No one is removing wall panels!
 AFAIK they are bonded to the frame in a vacuum process.


Posted By: OhTallMan
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by Budward

No one is removing wall panels!
 AFAIK they are bonded to the frame in a vacuum process.

Thanks for your thoughtful short remarks, but that doesn't answer the question.

I'd like to place some 12v outlets and am not sure how/where to run the wires. A polite and helpful answer from someone who has completed such a project would be appreciated.


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Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 4:57pm
Depends on where you want the outlets. If you want a plug in the dinette area you can run the wire around under the seats in the storage area. If you want it in the back by the bed I would run it from your power supply through the floor, bring it up through the floor by the bed. However if you run your wire under the trailer put it into a plastic tube for protection.

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If you want something done right, do it yourself.
2011 RP172, 2016 Tundra 5.7 Litre, Ltd.




Posted By: Budward
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 5:40pm
Originally posted by OhTallMan

Originally posted by Budward

No one is removing wall panels!
 AFAIK they are bonded to the frame in a vacuum process.

Thanks for your thoughtful short remarks, but that doesn't answer the question.

I'd like to place some 12v outlets and am not sure how/where to run the wires. A polite and helpful answer from someone who has completed such a project would be appreciated.


In my best Steve Martin impersonation-   Well EXCUUUUSSE me! 
 By all means run them through your wallsBig smile


Posted By: fwunder
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 5:54pm
Just to add to what Marwayne offered, there actually are a number of "panels" and access points through interior (bathroom) walls via vent at bottom of door, plumbing access panel (178) and panels at bottom of galley and even removing speakers or stereo unit gives interior bathroom wall access in my 178. The exterior walls are solid as is the floor.

Just a quick tip if you do remove any of the "panels" - they are all pretty thin 1/8" luan so it doesn't take much to hold them in place.  It's very easy to over tighten fasteners, so go easy. If you are cutting a hole, probably a good idea to use a hole saw for a clean cut rather than a spade bit. If you can hold a piece of scrap wood on the backside of your hole cutout, it may help make a cleaner hole. When I have cut other shapes in the luan, I use a sharp utility knife and patience.

As Marwayne has stated in the past, I've found course thread (drywall) screws to hold well in the solid walls. I will add a drop or two of adhesive when I can and I don't intend to remove. For the hollow walls and depending on the weight of what I am installing, I'll use a course screw, small molley or have even added a backing plate inside the wall.

I know that's a lot more than you asked for. Hope it helps.

Most importantly, just go slow and use all the common sense you got and don't forget to use the great search feature in this forum!

fred


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2008 4Runner Limited 4.0-liter V6
Yes, those are wild ponies dining on grass while dumping tanks!


Posted By: Outbound
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 9:11pm
Originally posted by OhTallMan

When you folks are adding these 12V outlets in various places, are you running wires through walls, underneath the unit, or what? If through walls, how easy/hard is it to remove wall panels to do so?

I'd recommend not removing wall panels.  It'll be a world of pain to get them back together.  And, I'd avoid going under the trailer because of all the obstructions: the floor is insulated and the holding tanks are in the way; also, you'll be making holes in the protective membranes - sure, you'll silicone them up after you've run the wires, but that'll deteriorate in a couple years.

In my 171, I've installed all outlets on the street side of the trailer, which is the side the converter is located, and for the most part I've run the wiring along the same path for existing wiring installed by the factory.  I've installed:
  • Two outlets below the countertop, close to one of the 120v outlets.  I can plug something in there and set it on the counter - that's usually where I plug my cell phone in at night.
  • Two in the dinette seat beside where the converter is located (so... they're below knee level).  The outlets are tucked near the front corner of the trailer - that way, I can plug something (usually bluetooth speakers or my tablet) in and run the cord up to the table with little chance of getting tangled in the cord as I move about.
  • One near the head of the bed, on the interior wall against the fridge, close to the corner with the outside wall, about 10" above the mattress.  In this case, I was easily able to feed wires from the converter, behind the furnace, and through the back of the cupboards/drawers using existing holes used for factory wiring.  The wire then goes up behind the fridge into the exterior access compartment; this brings it above the mattress.  It was quite easy to drill a hole for the 12v outlet through the interior wall and make the connections.
I suggest that you just look around your trailer a bit, open a few access panels, pull out a few drawers, and get down on your hands and knees.  Be creative.  Think things through for ease-of-installation and ease-of-use before running a single wire or drilling a single hole.

Oh - one more thing: for exterior power, I got creative/lazy.  I installed a waterproof 12v outlet on the side of the battery box and connected the wires directly to the battery.  That outlet is handy for plugging in my macerator pump, for plugging in an air pump to inflate the tires, for plugging in a 12v impact wrench to remove the wheels, and I'll occasionally plug in a boom box.  Its actually very handy, and I'll likely do a similar install on every trailer I buy in the future.


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Craig :: 2009 RP171 towed by a 2017 F150


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 10:21pm
This has been pretty well covered.  The only thing I can add is that if you don't particularly care where the 12v outlet is, your job will be a lot easier.  I'd start at the fuse box and see what you can do easily.  If you can get by with an outlet close to the box there may be almost nothing to it.

Most, if not all, of the interior walls are hollow and flimsy.  It's not hard to get behind them but you have to be careful or you can mess things up.  On my 176 the fuse box is at the bottom of the entertainment center and there is a lot of hollow wall there.  I'd snake wires through rather than remove the panels if at all possible.

I have run wires through the walls, so at least one of us does.

I haven't installed a 12v outlet because I haul around a jumper box that has a 12v outlet on it.  It will run just about anything for as long as I want, and I can move it wherever I need it.  And if I run the TV or the pod battery down I've got essentially got a spare.  I keep it plugged into shore power whenever possible to keep it ready to go.

TT


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2010 176
FJ Cruiser


Posted By: OhTallMan
Date Posted: 03 May 2014 at 11:26pm
Good tips and ideas. Thanks so much for the advice.

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Posted By: Hairy Podders
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 6:54am
On the 178, I'd would run wiring under the shower from the fuse panel back to under the edge of the bed for a 12 volt plug. That would be the easiest. On the '14 178 the inverter/fuse panel is just inside the entry door, at the base of the shower wall.

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Darryl, Julie & Lindsey
Cooper & Libby- Devoted Canines
2014 RP178
2006 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon



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