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Topic: Bearing grease blown out into brake assembly
Posted By: Bill-GA
Subject: Bearing grease blown out into brake assembly
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 8:54pm
I got my passenger side jacked up and when I took off the wheel it was LOADED with bearing grease ... on the parts, inner hub, brake pads! Rear seal was full of grease on outter side. I cleaned the elec pad and post before taking pix. 

I know I need new seals, but the bearing looks good as far as I can tell (not burnt).... 

Heres what I need help with ... PLEASE offer suggestions...

1. I think I'll have to disassemble brake parts to clean - I've done this MANY years ago. ...  WHAT  DO I USE TO CLEAN them?

2. The brake pads are soaked in grease too ...  CAN THEY BE CLEANED? or should I replace?

3. Should I go to a pro?  This could be pricy$$$$

I pumped the zerk fittings with grease early last summer ... one side took a while (it was probably me that pumped grease into brake  Embarrassed.  Amazingly I went to Maine (1300 miles) and back ... no problems noticed????  I've manually applied brakes with controller to make sure they work MANY times.  Hmmmmm, I thought grease binds the wheel when brake is applied? I'll have to check them out when repaired.




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Bill & Bev
13 yr old dachshund 'Elsa'
2010 RP-176T (tent & slide-out)
2011 Toyota Tundra 2WD TV



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Posted By: Anthony Valenzano
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 8:59pm
Go buy Super Clean at an auto parts store.  Spray on let soak for 10 minutes hose off - it will rip thru that grease.  May have to do it twice.  I don't think you'll even need to take it apart.

Foaming engine degreaser might work really well too.

Have you been pumping grease into the zerk fitting?  -- Sorry just read the last line - yeah those Zerk fittings are best ignored. 


Posted By: Craneman
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 9:28pm
I just replaced my bearings and seals,and I asked the mech at the rv repair about using the grease zerk and he recommend the I not use it. Result would be what you have. Repack once a year with new seal.
 Just a thought
          Moe


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Jo and Gary, 2010-174,2011 F150

Jo and Gary
2010 174
2011 Ford 150





Posted By: Outbound
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 10:21pm
The brakes are pretty simple and parts are cheap.  Just use some aerosol brake cleaner and wipe down with paper towels; it'll clean up fairly easily.  Personally, I'd go with new shoes (although there should be nothing wrong with just cleaning up the old ones) - and I'd probably do both sides.

I never did like that zerk fitting, where the grease comes out under the inner bearing or the fact that the process pressurizes a void with grease, and I've never been sure where grease pushed though the inner bearing is supposed to go... but I know that others swear by regularly squeezing grease into the zerk fitting.  A yearly inspection is recommended by Forest River and the axle manufacturers.  Personally, I repack the bearings and replace the seals annually, but that may be overkill.


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Craig :: 2009 RP171 towed by a 2017 F150


Posted By: Bill-GA
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 9:27pm
Thanks guys for you comments ... I'll be doing the brakes and repacking bearings with new seals in a week or so. Bill


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Bill & Bev
13 yr old dachshund 'Elsa'
2010 RP-176T (tent & slide-out)
2011 Toyota Tundra 2WD TV


Posted By: Bill-GA
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2013 at 8:51pm
I did the brakes this AM. I had to disassemble the brake with the grease blowout - grease all over the place. It took 2 cans of brake cleaner in total - great stuff. I used a large plastic bin underneath to catch droppings. I also used a purchased seal remover ... really good idea as bearing hub was lower than wheel hub and would not accommodate large screw driver.

I also bought a grease packer 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002NYDYY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002NYDYY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1  but I'm not sure I used it correctly - which side of bearing goes down? ... Hand packed it anyway. Any suggestions for future correct use of packer?

I saw that I have manually adjusted brakes ... So I adjusted them while wheel was raised. I tightened adjusting star wheel until wheel held firmly, then backed off 6 clicks - saw that in an online video - sounded good?  I tested them by spinning wheel and then applying brakes via manual brake controller lever.

These brakes should work way better than they were.

I will road test tomorrow.


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Bill & Bev
13 yr old dachshund 'Elsa'
2010 RP-176T (tent & slide-out)
2011 Toyota Tundra 2WD TV


Posted By: bhamster
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2013 at 9:53am
Originally posted by Bill-GA

Any suggestions for future correct use of packer?

I bought the same one when I repacked mine. The bearing can probably go on either way, but I used it with the wide part at the bottom and it worked well. You'll still end up with a glob in the middle which I just picked up with my (gloved) finger and packed into the races.


Posted By: Outbound
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2013 at 5:51pm
Originally posted by Bill-GA

Any suggestions for future correct use of packer?

like bhamster said, wide side down.


Originally posted by Bill-GA

I tightened adjusting star wheel until wheel held firmly, then backed off 6 clicks - saw that in an online video - sounded good?

That's a bit further than I tend to back them off.  But, you can always adjust them a click or two while the wheels are on the ground now that you know how its done.


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Craig :: 2009 RP171 towed by a 2017 F150


Posted By: Bill-GA
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2013 at 9:05pm
When I used the packer I was expecting the grease to ooze out from around the actual bearings but the grease typically came out the top or the bottom of the bearing. I saw this too on the video I watched. I guess this is normal?

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Bill & Bev
13 yr old dachshund 'Elsa'
2010 RP-176T (tent & slide-out)
2011 Toyota Tundra 2WD TV


Posted By: bhamster
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2013 at 9:46pm
Originally posted by Bill-GA

When I used the packer I was expecting the grease to ooze out from around the actual bearings but the grease typically came out the top or the bottom of the bearing. I saw this too on the video I watched. I guess this is normal?

I gave mine a spin and then a couple more pumps. Then slathered around the outside. The part it helps with is filling the voids inside.


Posted By: Outbound
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2013 at 11:02pm
A very small amount of grease will squeeze through the roller bearings; most of the grease will come over the top and under the bottom of the bearing. Make sure that your bearing packer is screwed down good and tight.

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Craig :: 2009 RP171 towed by a 2017 F150


Posted By: Bill-GA
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2013 at 4:23pm
As a final comment on my bearing lube, I had purchased FOUR seals from my local "trailer shop" - two for next time.  They charged me about $7 per seal. Last week I searched on eTrailer.com and found them LOTS cheaper and ordered them (2 fur special). I compared them yesterday and found them identical -double lip rubber seal- except the eTrailer rubber seals looked wider and better made. I'll be using them next time.

http://www.etrailer.com/Seals-for-Trailer-Bearings/TruRyde/RG06-050.html - http://www.etrailer.com/Seals-for-Trailer-Bearings/TruRyde/RG06-050.html


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Bill & Bev
13 yr old dachshund 'Elsa'
2010 RP-176T (tent & slide-out)
2011 Toyota Tundra 2WD TV


Posted By: Goose
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2013 at 4:47pm
Yikes, $7 a seal. I just bought seals to repack the bearings for $1.45 a seal from the local Dexter Axle dealer this morning.
I don't know how to do links but you can go to Croft Trailer Supply, search for GS84 Seals which is the number for the Dexter axle seals.
Now that I have said that after looking at shipping costs you are right back up to the $7 figure. Goose
   

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Mother Goose's Caboose..2011 RP171..07 Grand Cherokee



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