Old TV / New TV
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Topic: Old TV / New TV
Posted By: Bill-GA
Subject: Old TV / New TV
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 11:20am
I have the original TV that came with the Pod and at every new campground I have to scan for channels. This takes awhile and is very annoying. There are other features which I'm not sure what they do.
If I get a new small LED TV, is the scan and other features required ? Or is this done automatically? (I.e. channel scans). I use the TV antenna on the Pod.
------------- Bill & Bev
13 yr old dachshund 'Elsa'
2010 RP-176T (tent & slide-out)
2011 Toyota Tundra 2WD TV
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Posted By: coopercdrkey
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 3:24pm
Most televisions today will require channel scanning because they do what is termed "express tuning". This allows them to skip blank frequencies between active channels. Imagine if a specific campsite got channels 3, 15 and 25. would you want to push the channel up button twelve times to get from 3 to 15? Then a bunch more to get to 25? I'm not a big fan of the media cluster that came with our 177, and have replaced it with better components, but the new television still requires channel scanning.
------------- Bob and Joyce
Jennifer and Baxter, the Campin' Cocker Spaniels
RP 177 "Key Pod"
Chevrolet Silverado 1500 LT / Z71
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 7:56pm
With digital television there is an additional reason for the required scan. It allows the tv to decode and remap the physical frequencies and sub-channel data streams to the logical channels you actually see (3.1, 13.5, etc). In other words, with the old analog system channel 2 broadcast on a specific range of frequencies - always. Channel 3 was just above it, etc. Every tv was hardwired to use those frequencies all the time. Now with the digital system the channel numbers don't have a direct relationship to the frequencies used to broadcast them. Channel 2.1 might actually be broadcast using a frequency which on the analog system was used for channel 67. To confuse it more, channels have sub-channels which are just compressed data combined with the data for the main channel. Then to confuse it more, a sub-channel coming from one broadcaster may actually be remapped to a different main channel. So the local CBS station might own the rights to or lease out to the local CW affiliate, one of its subchannels. The CBS station broadcasts the CW programs on channel 13.5 but that gets remapped to channel 20 so it appears that CW is broadcasting its own stuff when it isn't. The scan allows the tv to figure all of this out. Clear as mud.
------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: Bill-GA
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 8:29pm
Thanks for your quick input ...
So .... If I go to my local Walmart, will a digital TV have the needed scan capability? Is this a given (very common) or do I need to read the manuals BEFORE I make the purchase?
------------- Bill & Bev
13 yr old dachshund 'Elsa'
2010 RP-176T (tent & slide-out)
2011 Toyota Tundra 2WD TV
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Posted By: Jdub
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 8:49pm
Out of curiosity.....we are still waiting for the arrival of our 178 but modifications are already on the Brain. First and foremost would be the sound system...a Jensen blue tooth for iPad/iPhone sounds perfect.
http://rvdailyreport.com/News/ctl/ArticleView/mid/427/articleId/25389/Jensen-introduces-Bluetooth-wall-mounted-stereo.aspx
And am guessing the Tv thingy installed in ours will suck( it looks the size of an iPad). So what is best for this? Do we really want a TV for stations or just a DVD player for Shaun of the Dead? What size TV actually fits on the console?
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 9:36pm
Bill, all tvs are now digital and must do a scan to work. Most modern ones do a scan as part of the setup process.
------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: Bill-GA
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2013 at 10:43pm
Doug, thanks for the input. I haven't used air channels for years except for the Pod. I wasn't sure the Pod TV was 'standard' or some RV deviant. I use DirecTV in home - a simple HDMI connection.
------------- Bill & Bev
13 yr old dachshund 'Elsa'
2010 RP-176T (tent & slide-out)
2011 Toyota Tundra 2WD TV
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2013 at 3:18pm
Ditto, I haven't tuned in a tv channel since before the switchover. Directv at home. Only used the pod's tv for the dvd player - and only the kids have done that. That said, I got a new LCD tv at home three months ago. My old one did not have a digital tuner, but the new one does. Just in case - all the satellites could be junk if we get a really good solar flare some day and I'll need to tune in to the airwaves to find out what happened.
------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: coopercdrkey
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2013 at 6:24pm
Can't speak for DirecTV. We had it for many years, but had some hassle that I can't even remember now, and dumped it for Dish.
For Christmas, we got the Dish Tailgater for the 'Pod. (I've posted the details somewhere else on the Forum.)
Works some places, other sites have an impenetrable tree canopy, so I can only say it's a good idea with a marginal execution. I'm glad we have it, but it's not the total answer to RV tv.
Jdub- The over-the-bed media console is Forest River's attempt to elevate the R-Pod 177 / 178 above the ordinary, and it doesn't. It is, not to put too fine a point on it, a piece of crap. Your 178 offers the opportunity to mount a flat panel in the console to the left of the entry door where it is viewable from the settee. I would guess it would accommodate a 22" or so, but your selling dealer should be able to call FR to verify.
------------- Bob and Joyce
Jennifer and Baxter, the Campin' Cocker Spaniels
RP 177 "Key Pod"
Chevrolet Silverado 1500 LT / Z71
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Posted By: Camper Bob
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2013 at 7:37am
Here's my two cents worth. Specifically deleted the TV and antenna when we ordered ours built. Instead of tv we stay at locations that offer cable access. We bring a laptop computer and with a USB adapter, connected to the cable we can watch our news programs or any other cable provided content on the computer. With a laptop we also have access to my office thru WIFI. Works fine. Hope that helps. Safe Travels.
------------- Camper Bob and Camper Sue
Gracie the Wonder Dog (12 LB. Mini Dachshund)
2013 Rpod 171HRE(ORPod)
2016 Lance 1685
2015 Nissan Pathfinder
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Posted By: Goody2Shz
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2013 at 6:03pm
No television in our pod. We were going to mount the over-the-bed one that came with it, but nixed that. I am a died in the wool through-and-through geek/nerd maximus. Grew up and worked in Silicon Valley. Gimme a laptop, a wireless signal, and I'm good to go. No wireless signal? I have my iPad. I have a portable (and very compact) solar battery to run all my toys. I guess I'm not much of a real camper, huh?
I used to tell people that "roughing it" to me was no room service. I think I'm moving beyond that, but I still need my geeky stuff.
------------- Eric and Donna
2012 177HRE
2012 RAV4
Sequim, WA
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Posted By: dsmiths
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2013 at 9:30pm
Nothing wrong with that Goody2Shz. I know the flat screen that came in ours new is not much, but we don't watch much tv. I like to watch the weather and local news. When the day is done Donna and I watch DVD'S of Andy Griffith, Big bang theory, and silly things for about 30 minutes, then we get the Bobble head and its lights out. I love the fresh air and walking and cooking outside and keeping the fire going, when night time comes we are worn out and looking forward to lights out.
------------- Dane and Donna Smith
2011 RP-172
2008 Chevrolet Trailblazer 4X4
lift kit
prodigy wireless brake controller
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2013 at 9:35pm
We sit around the fire surfing the net once the kids are in bed. :-)
------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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Posted By: coopercdrkey
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 6:34am
Never having frequented a "commercial" campground, we know what to expect in terms of media access and technical support from the Florida State Parks System- Zip! We also have absolutely no problem with that.
We do enjoy morning news when the Tailgater can find the signal, and a DVD in the evening is nice from time to time. If there is a 4G cell close enough, a mobile hot spot gets us internet access if we need it.
Most of out time, however, is spent relaxing and walking with the Campin' Cocker Spaniels.
Music, always at a respectful level, is an important component of the "relaxing", so I have re-allocated a Bose Sound Dock to the R-Pod inventory, and I have loaded up one of our iPods with Classical, Jazz, and Blues playlists. (I left out the Rock, since it has to be played too loud.) I guess that makes it an "R-Pod iPod". It makes chillin' in the R-Dome a beautiful thing.
------------- Bob and Joyce
Jennifer and Baxter, the Campin' Cocker Spaniels
RP 177 "Key Pod"
Chevrolet Silverado 1500 LT / Z71
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Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 1:06pm
Pod in a pod? I'm getting visuals of those Russian nesting dolls, but with a smaller R-pod inside of a bigger R-pod, inside of a bigger....
------------- Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual
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