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Topic: Jeep Wrangler and Cherokee
Posted By: Jeep'n'artys
Subject: Jeep Wrangler and Cherokee
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 6:50pm
Hello Podders,
My husband and I have been contemplating buying a camper for years.  Growing up, his family had a camper on a permanent lot.  Most of his memories were made "at camp".  We have always looked at the R-Pod, but were not sure we were going to buy new.  We have decided that we work hard and are planning to keep a camper a long time, so maybe we can buy new.  We looked at the 171 a few days ago, and wanted to look at a 177, but the one on the lot was sold so we were only allowed to look from the door as it was already being prepped in the garage for pick up.  
One of the reasons for the R-Pod, other than we are artsy and love the look, the floor plan, and the "certified Grean", is that it is weighs less than most.  We are a Jeep family.  We have a 2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 6cylinder inline 6 engine 4.0 and a 2000 Jeep Cherokee exactly the same engine.  We do not want to buy a new vehicle.  Most people that have Jeeps understand "It's a Jeep Thing".  I'm sure the same can be said for the R-Pod.  My husband and I are waiting for the 177 to come in this week so that we can see it in person.  After that, we are ready to buy.  
2 questions:
1.  Will our Jeeps pull the R-Pod?
2.  What is the preference between the 171 and 177?  We are a couple with no kids at this time, but we picked these two floor plans for the full time bed and dinette.  
Thank you for any advice.  I've been doing a lot of reading on here and decided to ask for help.  My husband and I are both teachers so we realize the best people to ask advice of are the ones that have the most wisdom......the owners





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Posted By: Podsible Dream
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 7:11pm
The 171 is a straight through plan.. The 177 has the push out with the kitchen in it. The differences a re weight, and hitch weight. The advantage to the 177 is the extra interior room with the push out area. We have a 171 and a dodge 3.7 l Dakota. An extra few hp would be appreciated with. Larger engine. ( although we carry a bit of extra weight in the pickup bed). For the record we live in the r dome( cooking, rain escape, etc), and don't use the pod except in cold or hot and don 't cook in it. But with a choice and a higher powered TV I would have gone for the 177. With our current setup, the 171 is great!



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Chris and Walt
'10 RP-171 'Free Spirit'
'13 Dodge Durango Crew 5.7 L Hemi V8


Posted By: Keith-N-Dar
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 8:06pm
We have a big tow vehicle with lots of power, so weight was not a proble.  It is the two of us and our little dogs when we camp, and we liked the extra space.  If the 177 had not been available we would have been happy with the 171.  Good luck with your choice!

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Keith-N-Dar
Boris & Betty (Boston Terriers)
2011 R-Pod 177
2010 Ford F-150


Posted By: Camper Bob
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 8:18pm
Welcome.  We recently purchased a 171 HRE and are prepping for our fourth trip.  The reasoning behind our purchase of a 171 are as follows.  We are both retired, wife a teacher of 33 years.  We have a 2005 Chev. Tahoe with a V8.  Tow capacity is 7,500 lbs.  At some point we will have to replace the Chevy, and without the income that we had in the past we most likely will have to downsize our tow vehicle.  That being said, we also enjoy being out of doors, so special ordered our 171 without the tv or antenna.  Camping for us is enjoying the location and reading, museuming, hiking, cooking etc.  Looked at a slideout but since it's only the two of us and Gracie, of course, and were also concerned about the extra weight and cost of a slideout.  The 171 made the most sense for us.  We could downsize the tow vehicle and not be concerned about towing concerns.  Like to get there and set up.  Also prefer a bed already set up as a bed.  Don't want to make and unmake the bed each day.  So, for us, the 171 made the most sense.  I do ponder a 181 but then remember I am not a fisherman or a hunter and the outside kitchen, prep area are not necessary for us.  I know many others have their own reasons for buying what they did, these are our reasons.  Enjoy, and Safe Travels.

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Camper Bob and Camper Sue
Gracie the Wonder Dog (12 LB. Mini Dachshund)
2013 Rpod 171HRE(ORPod)
2016 Lance 1685
2015 Nissan Pathfinder


Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 9:43pm
Welcome.  You'll do fine towing with your Jeeps.  

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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual


Posted By: Jeep'n'artys
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 10:13pm
Thank you everyone for your answers!  We really have loved the R-Pod for a while.  Being teachers, we have so much time to use it in the summer.  The great thing is we do not live far from Couch Nation.  Only about 25 miles.  That seems to be the deal breaker right there!  We like Jeeps because they have character.  We think the R-Pod is the only camper that has as much character.  
We welcome more responses and will keep you updated after we check out the 177 this week.


Posted By: techntrek
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 7:01am
Lots of teachers around here - my wife is one.

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Doug ~ '10 171 (2009-2015) ~ 2008 Salem ~ http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1723 - Pod instruction manual


Posted By: unlblkrubi
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 9:04am
I tow our 171 with a Wrangler Unlimited. Just have trailer brake.


Posted By: kymooses
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 10:00am
Originally posted by Jeep'n'artys

  We are a Jeep family.  We have a 2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 6cylinder inline 6 engine 4.0 and a 2000 Jeep Cherokee exactly the same engine.  We do not want to buy a new vehicle.  Most people that have Jeeps understand "It's a Jeep Thing".  I'm sure the same can be said for the R-Pod.
 
 
Also a Jeep family here, we pull our 181g with a 2004 Cherokee with the exact same engine as what you folks have.  We're a bit slow on large hills but a lot of people are.  That being said my wife does want a new TV but she just gets scared on hills and things like that.  I think we tow just fine, I'd perhaps be more fearful of true "mountainous" traveling, but we've even dabbled near and around some of that and again although slow at times no big issues.
 
And since you mentioned it... 
 


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Posted By: Keith-N-Dar
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 12:03pm
There is no rush normally.  Take your time and let the others  pass. 

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Keith-N-Dar
Boris & Betty (Boston Terriers)
2011 R-Pod 177
2010 Ford F-150


Posted By: Jeep'n'artys
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 3:22pm
Thanks for the info.  Question since you have the 177.  When it is not popped out, is there still room to walk from the door to the bed?  Is it essentially a 171 if not popped out?  Can you use the appliances if you do not pop it out?  Do you worry about the slide breaking?  Have you heard of that being a problem?  My husband is always worried about bells and whistles because he said that is just one more thing to break!


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 4:40pm
Yes you can get by, there is enough room there that we store our large ice chest (105 quart) there when traveling. Yes, all the appliances work when the slide is in.

The slide can't really "break" it's just a movable space. The technology of the "RV slide" is about 25 years old, it's mature. IF the motor was to fail, and I guess it could happen, the slide can be operated manually.

We have been camping and around RV's for decades, and I can only recall a couple instances where someone had any kind of slide problem. And those where a long time ago when they all had to be locked and unlocked before/after travel.. stuff like that. IMHO, the one and only downside of any slide is it is a hole in the camper.. they can leak. But it's not a given that they will, and in fact I have only known of a few people with that problem.


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Posted By: dcrispin1
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2012 at 3:19pm
I am a "jeep person" also. I have had alot of experience pulling my Rpod 173, with 2 jeeps, and talked extensively with other jeepers pulling trailers in the same size/weight catagory.  My jeeps are 2008 Wrangler 4dr Rubicon and 2012 Wrangler 4dr Rubicon.  Both have towing issues but for different reasons.
There are some issues to be aware of.
First the 4.0 jeep engine has all the power needed to pull any Rpod up to about 3,000Lb. The issues are all about the gearing and the vehicle size and frame strength.
If your Cherokee is a 4X4 it will have lower gears than a 2 wheel drive model.  That is good.  You didnt say if it was a stick or auto although both are really great transmissions.  A 2 wheel drive model generally has higher gears unless it came with a factory tow package.  An after market hitch is not the same low gearing as a factory tow package. 
 
You need to check your vehicles rated tow capacaty. Which can be obtained by contacting Chrysler jeep or if you have an owners manual.  Online search may get the answers also.  you can get a "build sheet" on your jeeps by calling Chrysler jeep and asking for it.  If your gears are 4.10 ratio you are better off than if they are 3.73 ir 3.21 etc. (The higher the final ratio the lower the gears).  You need to tow at least 500lbs under the max rating.
 
As for the Wrangler unlimited.  Again the manufacturers rated tow capacaty is everyting.  If your unlimited is a Rubicon it will have lower gears which is good.  In the Wranglers case a stick is better than an auto.
 
A simple test that I did was to rent a uhaul enclosed utility trailer of approximately the same size.  In my case I found one that weighed 2000Lb and I added weight inside to match the 2500lb of the Rpod I was going to buy.  I spent a day towing it all over. 
 
 I found that I was ok on flat roads at up to about 60mph but it was really hard on my auto transmission above that or into a strong wind or on hills.  My jeeps have less power in the engines and more importantly less torque than yours as the newer models came out with an enemic 3.8L put put engine.  Also my jeeps are rated at 3500lb towing.
 
If you rent a trailer and do the tow test you will know the answer. 
 
By the way, I am currently in the mountains of Colorado and had a nightmare getting my pod over the high passes.  In one case I was going 10mph in first gear before clearing the top.  But again my jeep issues are different than yours.  Jus try to test tow under the same conditions you will travel. 
 
By the way each Rpod has a yellow sticker on it with its actual tested weight, certified, on it.  check it out before buying.
 
Good luck


Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2012 at 3:30pm
We have a 171 and love it. We have towed it down to Disney World twice, hitting Lion Country Safari and the Keys both times. It tows great and both our trips were a month long and we were very comfortable. We towed it with our Dodge Grand Caravan with no problems.
The big thing is to just drive at a speed you are comfortable with and let people pass. We have found driving between 50-55 we get the best mileage. Don't think you could go wrong with either model.


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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171



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