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Topic: Battery Update
Posted By: jato
Subject: Battery Update
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2023 at 8:55am
Update #1.  Batteries were given a 24 hour 2 amp trickle charge Nov. 1, then disconnected and placed directly on a concrete floor in an unheated garage.  Batteries are a 12.5 year old 12v Interstate deep cycle and a 3+ year old Trojan T-1275.  Ambient temp. currently in the garage is 24 degrees.  Readings: Interstate is 12.62v and Trojan is 12.71v.  Next update will be January 1, 2024.



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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."



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Posted By: john in idaho
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2023 at 9:28am
I finally had to replace one of my 6v trojans from 2014.  Costco has the best price I have found on Interstate batteries.  Fortunately we have a couple of electric golf/ farm carts that we can recycle batteries into, where failure isn't a serious problem.   I keep the rPod in the barn over the winter and it is plugged in, incl the batteries until May.  Sometimes they need water in Feb and sometimes not.


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2023 at 9:40am
Originally posted by john in idaho

I finally had to replace one of my 6v trojans from 2014.  Costco has the best price I have found on Interstate batteries.  Fortunately we have a couple of electric golf/ farm carts that we can recycle batteries into, where failure isn't a serious problem.   I keep the rPod in the barn over the winter and it is plugged in, incl the batteries until May.  Sometimes they need water in Feb and sometimes not.


Curious as to how old your 6v Trojan battery was when you had to replace.  Although most of the golf carts maintained at our 72 hole complex were gas, some were electric and all had Trojan batteries, the gold standard for batteries.  Funny thing is while we could only get 4 years out of a set of Trojans in the north (and they were only used for 7 months/year) the same set will last 6 years in Florida where they are in use for 12 months.  Go figure.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: john in idaho
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2023 at 9:57am
The Trojans were bought when we got the trailer in Oct 14.  I replaced both this summer and probably should have done so last summer.  One was fine, one wasn't.  It may be that the batteries in the north were allowed to sit with a less than 40% charge.  I use the golf carts to move 2 hay bales at a time and to haul a 10 gal 12v 2-4 D sprayer on occasion plus run errands.  They get plugged in when they get sluggish.  And IMHO one of the secrets to long life batteries is the water level.  the cells  can look just fine but still take almost a cup of distilled water.  I have a squeegee bulb syringe and buy distilled water by the gallon.  In the spring I can use a gallon of water at one sitting getting the two carts ready. 6 batteries in each.


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2023 at 11:04am
Sounds about right.  Those batteries do tend to use up a fair amount of distilled water.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2024 at 4:32pm
It has now been two months since batteries received a 2 amp trickle charge.  The Interstate is reading 12.61v and the Trojan T-1275 is at 12.69v.  Garage temperature is 25 degrees.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: john in idaho
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2024 at 10:20am
You must have them unhooked from any parasitic drain.  IMHO those batteries are keepers.


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2024 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by john in idaho

You must have them unhooked from any parasitic drain.  IMHO those batteries are keepers.


Indeed I do.  They are both sitting on the concrete floor in an unheated garage (northern Michigan) with nothing hooked up to either.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: gpokluda
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2024 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by jato

Update #1.  Batteries were given a 24 hour 2 amp trickle charge Nov. 1, then disconnected and placed directly on a concrete floor in an unheated garage.  Batteries are a 12.5 year old 12v Interstate deep cycle and a 3+ year old Trojan T-1275.  Ambient temp. currently in the garage is 24 degrees.  Readings: Interstate is 12.62v and Trojan is 12.71v.  Next update will be January 1, 2024.



Jato, I have to admit I thought you've been blowing smoke about this 12 year old battery, but as it turns out there is a guy on the Escape forum that has not one but two of these unicorn batteries that are also in excess of 10 years old! He says he routinely runs them down to 20%-30% and has never had an issue. I have to admit I just shake my head when I read about these batteries.


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Gpokluda
2017 Rpod 179(sold 2023)
2022 Escape 5.0TA
2022 Ford F150 4X4 3.5EB
Triumph T120


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2024 at 3:44pm
Blowing smoke - I like that.LOL  Anyway, I had a twin to the 12+ year old battery that gave up the ghost 3.5 years ago.  I am sure it was because it got run down to nothing when I stupidly tried to run the fridge off it and after about 5 hours it was down to under 7 volts!  It was never the same after that, so I am somewhat surprised that the individual you mention takes his down to 20%-30% and they are still good.  Mine hasn't had that abuse, it has never been taken below 12.2v before recharge.  I will admit that it doesn't last as long as it once did when camping off grid however the 'ace in the hole' is the Trojan T-1275 that offers 160AH, a heavyweight at 85 lbs, but I really needed that on the a-frame to get the tongue weight up to 340# when the 177 is fully loaded, including the 36 gallons of water.



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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2024 at 3:39pm
It has now been three months since these 12v batteries received a 24 hour 2 amp trickle charge.  The Interstate reads 12.60 v and the Trojan T-1275 is still at 12.69 v.  They remain sitting directly on the concrete floor in an unheated garage.  Temperature in the garage is 36 degrees.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 8:32pm
Four months since each battery received a 24 hour 2 amp trickle charge.  Interstate reads 12.58 volts, Trojan T-1275 has actually risen since last month and reads 12.71v.  That is a mystery to me, but used two different voltmeters and got the same result.  Maybe due to the ambient temp in the garage is 38 degrees yet the cement floor they sit on is probably the same temp as it was a month ago.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2024 at 6:53pm
Five month update: Interstate is at 12.49 volts, Trojan T-1275 is at 12.68 volts.  A few weeks ago they were each given a load test.  Interstate is showing its age as it only put out 30% of full whereas the Trojan was at 100%.  Will continue to use the Interstate as it is still good for 2 days while boondocking when night temps are in the 40's with the furnace running a lot.  The Trojan is good for 5+ days under the same conditions.  Interstate is now officially 14 years old, the Trojan will turn 4 in August.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2024 at 6:54pm
Excellent info! Really interesting on the Trojan readings.

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: gpokluda
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by jato

Five month update: Interstate is at 12.49 volts, Trojan T-1275 is at 12.68 volts.  A few weeks ago they were each given a load test.  Interstate is showing its age as it only put out 30% of full whereas the Trojan was at 100%.  Will continue to use the Interstate as it is still good for 2 days while boondocking when night temps are in the 40's with the furnace running a lot.  The Trojan is good for 5+ days under the same conditions.  Interstate is now officially 14 years old, the Trojan will turn 4 in August.

I hope you have included the Trojan battery in your will because it appears it will out live you! 


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Gpokluda
2017 Rpod 179(sold 2023)
2022 Escape 5.0TA
2022 Ford F150 4X4 3.5EB
Triumph T120



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