TOILET VALVE
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Topic: TOILET VALVE
Posted By: hogone
Subject: TOILET VALVE
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 9:42am
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I dont think I got my toilet valve blown out good! Which valve should I get? Many thanks, Jon ------------- Jon & Pam 2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
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Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 2:53pm
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I got this one when the old Dometic valve cracked because of residual water. Two years later no problems and it works fine. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09P1WXMTW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09P1WXMTW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 5:10pm
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Well that is a bummer Jon. Regardless, on eBay you can get the upgraded valve for Dometic pedal flush RV# 385311641 models 300, 310, and 320 for $ 8.49 and that includes free shipping. ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2023 at 5:41pm
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Supposedly the Beech Land valve is able to sustain some freezing that would damage a standard valve. On the other hand if you are sure to get all the water out, perhaps $10 price difference isn't worth it. I initially installed our Beech Land replacement valve in the stock Dometic plastic toilet, but later ended up getting a lower Dometic ceramic toilet and used it on the porcelain throne. I hope I never have to find out if it's really more freeze damage resistant than the OEM valve. It was a real bummer when it broke on a trip with no parts available. I kept the OEM valve as a spare, just in case. Either way you go, good luck in fixing it. ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: hogone
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 5:51am
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Are they hard to fix? Any noteworthy hints!!?? Jon ------------- Jon & Pam 2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 6:12am
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It's just a matter of disconnecting the hoses, then getting to the screws that hold the valve in place. Depending on how much space is available, and your abilities as a contortionists, it's a matter of being able to get to the screws that hold the valve in place with a screw driver. Mine happened to be especially tight for one of the screws and I ended up taking the toilet off the flange. That worked out well because I discovered that the flange had a crack in it and was in need of replacement. I put the valve in before remounting the toilet and it was super easy because the access is much better. It was the same process when I mounted the ceramic toilet. The cracked flange issue, I believe, related to the fact that on that particular trailer they use a very tall Dometic toilet that feels a bit like the leaning tower of Pizza when you sit on it. I was lucky in that when I went to replace the valve, I found that there was also a recall on the toilet and received a new one from Dometic so waited to replace the valve until the new throne arrived. I had earlier looked at taking the valve out and realized that it was going to be a lot easier to take the toilet off, so I held off until the new toilet arrived. I believe the flange cracked because the leverage from the tall toilet was just too much for the plastic flange and it cracked at the attachment bolt holes. The ceramic toilet I mounted solved the leverage problem because it is only about 18" tall, but it is solid as a rock and will not exert any undue force on the flange. ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 7:17am
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Totally agree with LA, remove the toilet off the flange, makes the task nearly 100% easier. Haven't had this issue but remember when I purchased the taller Thetford toilet 6 years ago, it was a simple task, the only extra thing needed was to purchase a sharkbite fitting and an additional 6" piece of pex tubing. Maybe the Thetford is more stout than the Dometic, no problem observed in 'flexing' or wimpiness when sitting on throne. ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2023 at 2:46pm
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The Dometic tall toilet felt like it was going to tip over and break. It creaked and made noises that sounded like plastic fracturing every time someone sat on it. The recalled version was not properly glued and leaked black water into the enclosed space, accumulating there to the olfactory delight of the users. [ https://thecampingadvisor.com/dometic-300-toilet-recall/ - dometic-300-toilet-recall ] The replacement was just as creaky and top heavy. The ceramic toilet is much easier to clean and much more stable. It was a challenging installation because it needed more rear clearance vis-a-vi the center point of the drain, so I had to cut out part of the wall and inset the toilet. The advantage to doing that was that I was able to put foam around the part of the toilet at the very back where it went inside the wall space making a very solid installation. A little bit of seam tape that matched the back wall made the cut out virtually invisible. i'd post a picture but I don't know how.
------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: Akula1
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2023 at 12:57pm
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Does anyone know which model commode I have in my 2019 RP190? ------------- 2019 R-Pod 190 2019 Colorado LT |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 7:01pm
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You should have received a manilla envelope with your 190 and inside it will have various vendors and the paperwork/manuals who supplied/furnished the trailer. Mine included manuals/paperwork for the Suburban stove and HW heater, axle, Dometic fridge, Thetford toilet, water pump, brakes and converter. Special ordered ours w/o A/C, oven, or entertainments system, so of course no info was supplied for those items. ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
Posted By: gpokluda
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 8:09pm
------------- Gpokluda 2017 Rpod 179(sold 2023) 2022 Escape 5.0TA 2022 Ford F150 4X4 3.5EB Triumph T120 |
Posted By: hogone
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 7:06am
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I havent done mine yet; but just to confirm.......toilet held on by the two bolts (1 on each side). Just lift off like a "regular" toilet; correct? I assume the gasket (or whatever is under there) does not need to be relaced; correct? Just want to be sure. Thanks for the help. Jon ------------- Jon & Pam 2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 9:23am
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Jon, When I replaced the toilet it was already 6 years old, and it seems the replacement gasket was around $8, so it got replaced. Any RV store would carry it. Pretty easy to tell if the seal is good or not once you pull the toilet off, make sure when doing this you inhale deeply  . Pertaining to your other questions, you are correct as there are two bolts to remove and simply lift off like a regular toilet. Quite easy as being plastic doesn't require much effort to remove. ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 5:57pm
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When you replace the toilet, be careful not to over torque the 2 flange bolts or you can end up damaging the plastic flange. Dometic gives a torque value in inch pounds in the installation instructions that you can probably find online. ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: hogone
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 9:08pm
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thanks for the info you guys. Much appreciated. jon ------------- Jon & Pam 2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
Posted By: hogone
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2023 at 8:42am
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I know Im a pain in the #%%! When I pull the toilet off, will the flange stay on the base or the toilet......or could it go either waY? jon ------------- Jon & Pam 2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2023 at 9:12am
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Mine stayed on the base, either way it will remove off the base or toilet quite easily. ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
Posted By: hogone
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2023 at 10:22am
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cool, thanks jato. jon ------------- Jon & Pam 2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2023 at 2:13pm
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The flange is held to the floor with wood screws. If you want to take it off, you have to remove them. ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: hogone
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2023 at 1:29pm
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bummer, just yanked toilet.......wrong valve. mine is model 31682. jon ------------- Jon & Pam 2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
Posted By: hogone
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2023 at 2:49pm
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i think i need 31705. jon ------------- Jon & Pam 2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
Posted By: hogone
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2023 at 3:31pm
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you think it could be the elbow in the pex? or the valve, or both? jon ------------- Jon & Pam 2013 RP177 2010 F150 2017 HD Streetglide 2009 HD Lowrider CHEESEHEAD |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2023 at 4:35pm
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The only way to be certain is to pressurize your line and see where the leak is, should be apparent with your commode removed. ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |