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Topic: Tucson/Nogales
Posted By: jack-pod
Subject: Tucson/Nogales
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2022 at 3:12pm
Hi fellow R-Podders,
I am in Tucson and want to go to Nogales, Mexico for some dental work.
Any ideas?
Where best to homebase while making several trip across the border?
A Forest Service guy said be careful camping near the border.
Any other ideas for my winter stay here?
Thanks for any help.
Jack



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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2022 at 5:32pm
I agree with the Forest Service guy. There are too many people who are coming across the border and not all of them with good intentions. This might be a good time to do a web search for campgrounds that would be convenient for your cross-border trips.

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Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2022 at 5:58pm
+1  My son worked at Fort Huachuca Army base not that long ago, not a safe place outside the base.  As Stephen points out, "a lot of people with not very good intentions" hang out in that area.  I would stay closer to Tucson and make the drive from there to your destination.


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Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
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Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2022 at 6:46pm
If you're not from the area, check out campgrounds in Campendium and other campground finding web sites.  Sunflower RV has good reviews on Campendium and is just north of Nogales, AZ.  Here's their web site link:   https://tubacsunflower.com/ - https://tubacsunflower.com/

Since you'll be gone for substantial periods of time for several days running, it'd probably not be a good idea to stay in a state or federal campground.  An RV park, on the other hand, may control visitors a little better, since it's bad for business for their guests to have problems with mean people looking for trouble.


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Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: gpokluda
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2022 at 7:08pm
+1 on Campendium. Also check out Allstays. Good luck.

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2022 Escape 5.0TA
2022 Ford F150 4X4 3.5EB
Kawasaki KLR650


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2022 at 1:07am
Let me take the contrary view here. I've camped many times in MX and enjoyed it greatly. Nice people, great food and weather, low costs. And felt safer than I would in a lot of US campgrounds or rest areas. 

There are many campgrounds in northern MX  that cater to snowbirds and Mexican families,  who like to camp too. Just don't necessarily expect it to be really quiet, Mexicans in my experience  tend to be pretty outgoing and like to have fun in the evenings. 

Full dusclaimer, I don't know anything about Nogales specifically, my experience has been in Puerto Penasco and Baja, but it's worth checking into I think. You'd be closer to your dentist, have a more interesting cultural experience, avoid the giant pain  crossing the border twice each day could be, and save money too. Which is the point of going to MX for medical/dental work in the first place, right? 


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2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2022 at 6:55am
When I posted the suggestion about looking in Campendium for an RV park, I also looked for places on the other side of the border.  I couldn't find any in my internet search.  I've stayed in Nogales, Sonora, Mx. a couple times, but it was in hotels while I was en route to places further south.  Sadly the safety situation has deteriorated in México over the last 20 years, and I would not duplicate my road trip to Morelia, Mich., Mx. [and I am fluent in Spanish].  I have friends there who won't drive to México City because of the dangers on the autopista between the two cities.  

Staying in Nogales, Sonora, Mx., also presents another problem.  It's one thing to cross the border in a car or pickup and return without undue hassles and delays.  Taking a trailer across the border is no problem southbound, but when you come back, our friends with the CBP may want to do a very thorough search of your rPod to make sure no contraband is in it.  It may be an unpleasant experience as you watch the CBP tearing it apart and may lead to some very expensive repairs.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2022 at 1:18am
I would agree with avoiding  notorious areas and long distance RV travel deep into MX.  And night travel, for one thing there are often topes (big speed bumps) in the little towns that aren't well marked. But a great many snowbirds take their RVs into the near border areas in MX every winter.  Again, I don't know about Nogales in particular.

I never took a trailer into and out of MX but Ive gone many times with a motorized RV and never had an issue. Might be a trailer causes more concern at the border,  don't know. My last trip to Baja was just pre Covid and in a rental car. Had a great time. I think we have one member, olddogsrule, who has been to MX recently and had  a positive experience. Haven't seen any posts from him for a while so I don't know if he's still active on this forum.

Here's an article on RVing in MX which covers dobevif the basics 

  https://www.getawaycouple.com/drive-your-rv-in-mexico/


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2022 at 5:59am
Some of the border towns are the most dangerous areas of México, for example, Ciudad Juarez.  We have friends who are from México, mostly border areas, and they have curtailed their travel considerably because of the dangers posed by the chaos in the north of the country.  Sadly, vehicles with gringo license plates get targeted and there is an assumption that those who have the discretionary income to by an RV make a good kidnapping target.  The article OG cited is helpful, but a bit naive in minimizing the danger while suggesting that one check the US State Department travel advisory website.  That site does not conform to the tone of the article.   https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/mexico-travel-advisory.html - https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/mexico-travel-advisory.html   In regard to Nogales, they advise against travel there and state:
  • Nogales: U.S. government employees may not travel to the area north of Avenida Tecnologico, west of Bulevar Luis Donaldo Colosio (Periferico), and east of Federal Highway 15D (Corredor Fiscal) and the residential areas to the east of Plutarco Elias Calles. U.S. government employees may not use taxi services in Nogales.

There are great dental clinics all over México, mostly in pretty well protected tourist areas or right along the border.  I wouldn't hesitate to use them, except that our dentist is located in Medellin Colombia and we get to stay as long as we need to with minimal cost because we can stay with relatives.  


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2022 at 7:05am
Yeah the state dept rules for govt employees are a good conservative guideline. Looks like Baja is fairly safe as long as you stay south of Tijuana. Sonora (where Nogales is) appears to be pretty dangerous, at least right near the border. And cities can be dangerous anywhere. Tijuana has a population of over 2 million, Nogales 200,000.  There are many places in American cities I wouldn't travel in, especially at night, either.

If I was going to have dental work done in MX I think I'd look in the Ensenada area, there are some nice family beach campgrounds in the area just south of there.


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: jack-pod
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2022 at 2:19pm
Thanks to everyone for their input.
Very considerate and I am very happy that I am a member of the R-Pod family


Posted By: tcj
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2022 at 9:40am
An interesting Mexico Border story. This fire was 8 miles west of Nogales

In April 2008 I was on the Alamo Fire on the Coronado NF. The fire started in Mexico near the border and burned into the Coronado. There were six fire fighters (Bomberos) on the Mexico side. They had walked several miles to get there. The Crew boss was 73 years old and the only one that had a hard hat. They all wore nomex shirts and blue jeans. There were armed Federales on horse back to protect the Bomberos from drug smugglers. Our deputy Incident Comander met with them and asked what fire fighting equipment equipment they would most like to have. The answer was sleeping bags, so he got some bags from our supply unit and gave to them to keep.


Bomberos on the Mexico side with our Division Supervisors








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Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2022 at 1:11pm
¡Que padre!

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2022 at 11:50pm
Now that is one fit looking 73 year old. Perhaps hiking miles in the Sonoran desert fighting fires is the secret to longevity? 

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 6:50am
He looks about the same as the guys I work with building Habitat for Humanity houses in CT.  Everyone on our framing crew is over 65, with most in their 70's.  I'm the oldest at 75.  You should see us rolling joists, lifting walls, and stacking trusses.  Big smile

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 7:57am
LA, you should post a similar picture of your Habitat crew. Do y'all have hard hats when when you're raising those trusses, or only the eldest like the MX crew? 

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 8:09am
I don't know how to post pictures here any more.  Shocked

We do wear hard hats when we are stacking trusses or doing other overhead work.  As for the house we're currently working on, we are going to have the fun of using some newly purchased wall jacks.  We have 6 houses currently underway; two enclosed and getting dry walled, two being framed, and two new foundations going in. 


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 9:17am
Getting pretty cold in CT to be pouring g concrete isn't it? 

For photos  you click on the tree icon, the instructions to upload and post are there. Be sure to resize to something like 800x600 pixels. 




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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 11:19am
I don't know much about cold weather concrete since I'm new to this climate.  They say it's no problem until the ground freezes, formerly in mid-January.  Now who knows?  It may never freeze.  Also, they say they have heat mats and for only $4 a yard, they'll batch mix with hot water.

I'll try to post a foto of the geezers when I get one.  Going to CA for Christmas, so it won't be until after the New Year.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 2:15pm
It'll freeze at some point. Enjoy sunny CA.

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2022 at 2:59pm
In January, so will we.  Cry

The earth work and concrete are done by subcontractors.  Supposedly they know what they're doing, especially since they're local.  It'll be done by next week.

I doubt they have concrete freezing problems in los Nogales, but summer work has got to be pretty challenging as it is for the bomberos.


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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost



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