So Far No Issues
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Topic: So Far No Issues
Posted By: mjlrpod
Subject: So Far No Issues
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2022 at 3:47pm
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I dewinterized, and I don't see any leaks or problems. This is the first year I only blew the lines out, no antifreeze in the lines. I was nervous cause we had some good 15 - 20 below zero days. I used a little pink stuff in the sinks, shower, toilet, but from what I'm told, I don't have P traps. I guess the newer models have a different system called a Hepvo. I guess it doesn't need anti freeze, but a put a bit in. ------------- 2017.5 Rp-172 2020 R-pod 195 2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl I'll be rpodding |
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2022 at 6:16pm
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The Hepvo system looks like a good thing. ------------- StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2022 at 9:01pm
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Good for you mjlrpod! Except for the first year of owning our 177 the past 10 years we have used the same method, compressed air and then using a total of 16 oz. RV antifreeze for the 2 sink and 1 shower trap and then a small amount for the top of the toilet to keep the seal moist. In northern Michigan temperatures also hit well below 0. The good news is no leaks ever. And the beauty of blowing out is once the HW tank is drained and the 3 valves are set to bypass it takes less than 2 minutes to blow all the lines out twice using air at 85 psi. Works for us. ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2022 at 5:46am
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We have also used the blow out method and it has worked well with one exception; the toilet valve had some residual water in it that froze and cracked it, making an unpleasant surprise on the first trip of that season. I replaced the valve with a more durable one made by a third party company that claims it resists freezing better than the Dometic valve. I also make it a practice to disconnect the water line to the toilet valve when I blow out the system and separately blow some air through the toilet valve while holding it open. All you need is a towel to soak up the little bit of water that spills out onto the floor. Those Hepvo traps look like a really good idea and should give a little more space under the sinks. For myself, I'm too lazy to bother with a retrofit unless the price of the pink antifreeze goes way up. ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2022 at 6:08am
Indeed, the last gallon on RV antifreeze lasted 8 years (I use 16 oz. each year for the traps/toilet) and the cost was 99 cents. Am currently on year 3 of my second gallon, purchased 2020 and noted that the price skyrocketed all the way up to $ 2.99/gallon.  ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2022 at 7:11am
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A 3 pack of Hepvo drain traps costs $157 on Amazon; one for the each sink and one for the shower. To make it cost effective, I'd have to have the trailer over 40 years just to pay for the Hepvo drains, not to mention the other plumbing parts to make it fit and my incredibly valuable labor. With all due respect to Forest River, I don't think my trailer will be around that long. ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2022 at 1:01pm
Let's be reasonable here and do the math: Hepvo traps $157 misc. plumbing parts $50 LA's labor $200/hour taking his time to change out all three with assigned coffee breaks $600 Total $ 807.00 Hmmm. I guess you are correct again Lostagain! ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2022 at 2:12pm
Jato, Jato, Jato, what's with the $200 per hour? I charged that back in 2000 before I got out of the litigation business and decided to do something honest for a living. Now that I'm retired, my hourly rate is priceless, coffee breaks being extra.  ------------- Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2022 at 7:10pm
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OK, I stand corrected. Regardless of your new 'rate' the jeorpardy final answer will not change. Indeed, I don't think your trailer will be around that long either, I know for fact - I won't last that long or be around either! ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
Posted By: mjlrpod
Date Posted: 07 May 2022 at 4:21pm
85 p.s.i.?? Shnickies, I thought 50 p.s.i. was about the max you want to put into the plumbing. I only used about 40 p.s.i. to blow out mine. Should I bump up the pressure? Thanks ------------- 2017.5 Rp-172 2020 R-pod 195 2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl I'll be rpodding |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 07 May 2022 at 9:11pm
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When set as 85 psi I have one line already open. Once water is purged out I then open a second line and then close the first and so on. In other words one line is always open at this pressure. ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
Posted By: Dirt Sifter
Date Posted: 08 May 2022 at 8:28pm
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Wow! 85 psi!? I use 40 - 45 psi and check each valve at least twice until no moisture forms on my fingers each time. I have no need to test the suggested 40 psi water pressure limits. Have done that for years with various TT's and it's worked in NE OR winters that routinely get into minus double digits Fahrenheit. Along with pink stuff for the p-traps, toilet of course. Always learning something on this forum! ------------- Greg n Deb 2020 195 HRE '07 Tundra 5.7L., '17 Tacoma 3.5L. Both with tow packages 1 Puggle, 1 Chihuahua support staff |
Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 5:28am
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Even though the incoming pressure is 85 psi, with one line always open the line pressure is going to be quite lower. How much I don't know as it has never been measured but it doesn't take long to see no mist coming out of each line. Don't even check the bowl in the inlet side of the water pump anymore as it was always dry after performing this procedure. ------------- God's pod '11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |