Kitchen sink fell
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Topic: Kitchen sink fell
Posted By: LongRanger
Subject: Kitchen sink fell
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2020 at 9:56pm
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We had our 2018 RP190 out for the weekend. Our 2nd night we noticed that the kitchen sink had fallen into the cabinet below. It was only being held up by the plumbing below. https://postimg.cc/1VDyMNXC">  I grabbed a flashlight and looked under the cabinet. It appears the sink was only held in place by some 'toenailed' screws around the edges of the sink rim. Is this normal? How can I fix this. It's concerning to me that it appears to be so shoddily held in place. https://postimg.cc/N57gHTWL">  https://postimg.cc/jLrx2v3G">
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Posted By: crw8sr
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2020 at 10:00pm
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Not I've got to poke my head under our sink to have a look see. ------------- Chuck & Lyn Izzy, Morkie. RIP Zoe Joy & Gracie, Yorkie 2018 R Pod 190 2019 Traverse In moments of adversity;when life's a total wreck, I think of those worse off than me and really feel like heck. |
Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2020 at 10:58pm
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LongR Take it out and surface mount it, than it won't happen again ------------- If you want something done right, do it yourself. 2011 RP172, 2016 Tundra 5.7 Litre, Ltd. |
Posted By: Olddawgsrule
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2020 at 6:11am
That is certainly the easiest way to fix that issue. They are supposed to be secured by a bracket/clip that is on that screw and lips the sink. http://www.amazon.com/Undermount-Sink-Clips-Screws-Bonoda/dp/B07ZC41RLF/ref=asc_df_B07ZC41RLF/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416962636727&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16055057199029880076&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002257&hvtargid=pla-870157263973&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=94306392712&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416962636727&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16055057199029880076&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002257&hvtargid=pla-870157263973 - http://www.amazon.com/Undermount-Sink-Clips-Screws-Bonoda/dp/B07ZC41RLF/ref=asc_df_B07ZC41RLF/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416962636727&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16055057199029880076&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002257&hvtargid=pla-870157263973&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=94306392712&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416962636727&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16055057199029880076&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002257&hvtargid=pla-870157263973 These may not be the right size, but a example of what should be there.
------------- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJduGeZNFgtptH67leItRFQ - Byways no Highways 2017 Tacoma http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=72408 - Truck Camper Build 2004 F150 My Overlander |
Posted By: tcj
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2020 at 8:05am
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Ower blue 2019 180 has the same toe nailed screw attachment on the sink. It is not easy to get to, to fix, so I haven't. I don't put anything heavy in the sink while traveling.
------------- 2018 R-pod 180 Hood River Edition |
Posted By: LongRanger
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2020 at 8:22am
Hot dog! Should be easy enough to find the right size. Thanks for the tip.
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Posted By: LongRanger
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2020 at 8:25am
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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2020 at 12:49pm
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Even with the clips I doubt it will hold. The counter material is fibreboard I believe. Nothing will hold in that junk for long, and if/when it gets wet, forget it. Surface mount makes infinitely more sense, not only will the sink stay put but you can seal the edge so water doesn't get in there. If you really have to have an undermount sink, change out the counter for some real wood or other better quality material. ------------- 1994 Chinook Concourse 1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
Posted By: LongRanger
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2020 at 1:14pm
Looking at the way they toe nailed the sink in with those tiny screws, it's no wonder it fell off. I'm curious if this is the way others are mounted (and thus the norm) or if mine is just an anomaly done by some guy who was late for lunch. I know one other person replied that his is the same.
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Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2020 at 5:31pm
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I have a 2015 178. I have a top mount, porcelain sink, it is secured like a normal sink, from underneath and on countertop. ------------- Mike Carter 2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2020 at 7:40pm
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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2020 at 7:45pm
You're not the first one to have an undercounter sink in an rpod fall down. There have been multiple instances. So, I think its the normal practice at FR. You can't develop any reliable pull out strength in fiberboard, no matter what size screw you use. The material has no ability to take tension stress, it just pulls apart, plus it swells to 2x it size when it gets wet. The older models are surface mounts so don't have that problem. Under mount sinks seem to be the latest fad in home kitchens so FR is trying to imitate that in their trailers but using the wrong materials. Some new things aren't better. This is one of them. ------------- 1994 Chinook Concourse 1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2020 at 2:16pm
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SH - it is tiny and could very well be plastic, but it's not falling in :) ------------- Mike Carter 2015 178 " I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability." |
Posted By: David and Danette
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2020 at 7:41pm
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With our 2009 r-pod and our 2012 Vibe one of the first things I did was replace the kitchen mdf counter tops with Baltic Birch plywood and the plastic sinks with larger stainless steel sinks. Thankfully our Vista was built with a plywood counter top and just replaced the plastic sink with a larger stainless steel sink. Still liked some of the construction in our 2009 r-pod the entire dinette was framed with quality hardwood something they changed in the later years building the r-pods.
------------- 2018 Vista Cruiser 19BFD (2018- 2012 Vibe 6503 (2014-2019) 2009 r-pod 171 (2009-2014) Middle Tn 2014 Ram 1500 Quad cab |
Posted By: LongRanger
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2020 at 7:48pm
I wouldn't even know where to begin with replacing counter tops. You all have some mad skills!
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Posted By: New92
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 3:49pm
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The sink in our 192 fell out also. Only 3rd weeend out. Thank goodness it wasn’t full of water (just dishes). Like you I was amazed at the inadequate fasteners just barely hanging onto the sink lip. How much more would have cost if they simply added a washer on each screw! (sorry my disappointment is oozing out (; I put some construction adhesive along the sink lip then used course thread screws with wide washers. Due to the tight access I used a 6” long drill bit, and it snuggled it up nice. Going to put a bead of clear silicone around the sink edge (192 has under counter sink) Most important thing... I impressed my wife with the repair🤪 We will see how well it holds up. Going on the road for 3 weeks this month...fingers crossed. by the way... love my 192!!
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