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Topic: CPAP
Posted By: EchoGale
Subject: CPAP
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 1:41pm
G'Afternoon all,

I'm still messing with strategies for my traveling companion's CPAP. 

We're taking the pod in tomorrow to have bearings repacked, brakes and tires checked and were going to have a DC socket installed because we have a power cord for the CPAP that plugs into the device on one end and a CPAP battery on the other with a DC socket.  (Before you ask the external CPAP battery won't last long enough to be more than a backup option).  The CPAP battery does work but the DC plug won't run the CPAP in either of our cars.

Any thought on why this would be? Is it because this particular CPAP might need an inverter and the battery supplies one?  If it won't work in the car it won't work with a DC outlet installed in the camper either, will it?

While we're at it, is there anything else we should have looked at while we're at the RV shop?  This will be our first visit there and while the 2016 pod is in great shape we don't know what's ever been done (we have been maintaining the batteries).

I'll appreciate your opinions.




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Julie



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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 2:21pm
The only thing I can think of off the top of my head (forgive me if I'm stating the obvious) is did you have the car ignition on when you tested the cpap? If you share the brand and model cpap we could look it up and see if the that might tell us anything. 

If you don't have any leak problems and all your appliances and fixtures work as they should (check both gas end electric operation before you go in) then I can't think of anything else you might want to have the RV place check for you. 


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1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: wooleeman
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 2:35pm
If the DC plug is for the cigarette lighter outlet (I know I'm old school) then is the fuse blown inside the connector plug? The tip of the plug should unscrew and there would be a glass inline fuse inside.

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2016 RP-179 (Sold 9/2020)
2014 Silverado Crew Cab. 6-1/2' Bed
Golden Retriever (DOB 6/16/2020)
English Bulldog (RIP 6/15/2020)


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 2:41pm
Echo, another possible problem is if you had the motor running, you could have created enough line noise for your CPAP that it wouldn't run.  I saw this happen to one where I fixed the reversed polarity of the plug and it ran fine, but when my friend tried to run it with the generator to his RV going, the CPAP refused to run until he turned off the generator.  .... and returned us camping near him to blissful peace and quiet.  Clap

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Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: EchoGale
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 3:33pm
Thanks so much...the car was tried both running and not running but I will look for a fuse.  :)

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Julie


Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 3:34pm
Was the DC cord designed for the CPAP? If not, it may have the wrong polarity in the connector, which I assume is a typical DC barrel connector. Another possibility with an aftermarket cord is that the CPAP runs on 24V and the straight DC cord isn't providing enough voltage, i.e. it needs a voltage step-up circuit.

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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod"
2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4
Three cats


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 7:49pm
It would help if you mention the brand and model of the CPAP machine. Mine is a Respironics System One. I purchased the 12V power cord made for this model. It was much more expensive than a generic 12V cord but it works fine plugged into the 12V outlets I installed. One way to make sure you know the power requirements of your CPAP machine is to look at the transformer block. Look at the output voltage. Is it 12V or 24V?

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: EchoGale
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 7:59pm
Thanks Stephen, Its a Resmed Airsense 10 but I don't have (or have access to the other information).  I've read that some need inverters and others either already have them or don't need them.  I suspect this is the problem and I think what we'll try next.  :)

I think its not a fuse because it can work on the cpap battery but not on either car. We also have this weird cord that has a 12 volt socket on one end and little clips like jumper cables on the other.  I think that can connect directly to one of the camper batteries but we'd have to slam the door on the cord.  

how fun is all this?LOL


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Julie


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 8:13pm
Okay, I did a real quick web search. Your Resmed Airsense 10 runs on 24V.  https://www.resmed.com/uk/en/consumer/products/accessories/air-10-dc-dc-converter.html - https://www.resmed.com/uk/en/consumer/products/accessories/air-10-dc-dc-converter.html

You would need to get a 12V to 24V converter. You could check Amazon for this item.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 01 May 2019 at 5:22am
I think maybe this is what you're looking for. Looks like it comes with a cig lighter socket as well. 

https://www.respshop.com/cpap-supplies/battery-power/resmed-dc-converter-24v-90w-for-airsense-airstart-aircurve-10-machines-p-908.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwh6XmBRDRARIsAKNInDHfoSW3dfuincT5ph2lo1X9yygJV7dGaRu0UfTmqJZKE_eJi4thYnEaAmimEALw_wcB - https://www.respshop.com/cpap-supplies/battery-power/resmed-dc-converter-24v-90w-for-airsense-airstart-aircurve-10-machines-p-908.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwh6XmBRDRARIsAKNInDHfoSW3dfuincT5ph2lo1X9yygJV7dGaRu0UfTmqJZKE_eJi4thYnEaAmimEALw_wcB


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: EchoGale
Date Posted: 01 May 2019 at 8:09am
Thanks!

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Julie


Posted By: Taospod
Date Posted: 02 May 2019 at 4:00pm
Check a site called cpap.com.  Back in 2016 I purchased a "DC Converter 24V 90 Watt for S9 Machines" to power my S9 ResMed CPAP unit.  The converter package included a cigarette lighter plug, the converter brick, and wires to connect the brick to the CPAP machine.  The package also provides wires with alligator clips if you want to go directly from a battery.  The unit cost $84.95 at that time.  Also check www.cpap.com/productpage/dc-conveter-for-s9-machines.html  which provides detailed information with regard to current draw at 12v DC, battery amp-hour requirements for different treatment pressures and a lot of other good information.  The unit has worked very well for me.  The 800 number for cpap.com (at least in 2016) is 800-356-5221.  I would guess they make converters for many ResMed series machines.  Good Luck.


Posted By: Jeepinator
Date Posted: 05 May 2019 at 1:27pm
Offgrid is correct. I have the same cPap and that is what I used. I installed a cigarette lighter outlet on the panel under the bed. You may want to upgrade to better batteries though; you don’t want the battery(s) to discharge less than 50%. You’ll also want to shut off the humidifier. It’s a major power hog. 

You may find this useful - https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=2ahUKEwie4uvMxofiAhWvneAKHbPVCokQFjABegQIAhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cpapsupplyusa.com%2FPDFs%2Fresmed%2520batteryguide.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0KoW63r0oWMgg9mugA0tHm - - https://www.cpapsupplyusa.com/PDFs/resmed%20batteryguide.pdf


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