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Topic: Mattress Advice
Posted By: Wepod
Subject: Mattress Advice
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2019 at 8:56am
Hi It is time for me to replace the mattress in my 179 pod l did get a free one on warranty last year but it only lasted about as long as thr original factory mattress. So now it is time to get a decent mattress. I think a lot of you are using the zinuis mattress but I was concerned about the bad mold reviews I saw on Amazon.    Is there other mattress options I should be looking at? If you have a zinus mattress did you have any problems with it and how do you like it?



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Posted By: Capt Kidd
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2019 at 10:31am
We have a mattress factory in town so I went there and bought a RV short queen matress.  They had several firmness to choice from.  I chose a firm one and I really like it.  Cost was about $500.

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The Pirate's Pod


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2019 at 10:53am
We have the 10" Zinus short queen memory foam mattress. We have been very happy with it. I find it to be very comfortable. The down side is the weight. It is heavy and hard to move to get to the spaces underneath to winterize or to get to the storage compartments I made. Amazon lists the 10" model at 52.6 lbs. I am about to order the 6" Gel Infused model which is 31.3 lbs. https://smile.amazon.com/Zinus-Gel-Infused-Green-Memory-Mattress/dp/B072M8JWGR/ - https://smile.amazon.com/Zinus-Gel-Infused-Green-Memory-Mattress/dp/B072M8JWGR/
I will move the 10" model into our house. I will need to find a way to adapt it to a full-queen size though.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Capt Kidd
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2019 at 11:06am
Yeah my mattress is fairly heavy and is almost a squeeze fit but I don't need to get under it very often.

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The Pirate's Pod


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2019 at 1:43pm
This has been a problem since day one I believe.  After only a few nights in our 177 we decided to replace the mattress, and this was in 2011.  We purchased a eurotop  mattress (AKA mattress in a roll) from Camping World and have been very pleased with its performance.  We use it about 30 days/year and feel it is just as luxurious and comfortable as the day we purchased it 7 1/2 years ago.

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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2019 at 3:13pm
+1 to SH, we also have the 10" and it just to heavy to manage when changing bedding. Takes the both of us to manage.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2019 at 4:27pm
The 50 lbs is a turnoff to me too both due to handling and to increased tongue weight. I just have a topper right now, not very comfortable. StephenH, please let us know how the 6 inch one works out for you.   

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2019 at 5:23pm
I've said this before, but it's worth repeating.  We use a 4" piece of seat cushion foam that's real firm.  My wife made a couple of covers for it.  It's light, very comfortable [this foam comes in various densities to meet your hard/soft mattress preferences], and easy to move.  Being relatively light, it's easy to get at the space below the bed where we have a lot of stuff stored.  Cost:  just a tad over $100 including the cloth to make the covers.

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2019 at 7:52am
Originally posted by jato

This has been a problem since day one I believe.  After only a few nights in our 177 we decided to replace the mattress, and this was in 2011.  We purchased a eurotop  mattress (AKA mattress in a roll) from Camping World and have been very pleased with its performance.  We use it about 30 days/year and feel it is just as luxurious and comfortable as the day we purchased it 7 1/2 years ago.


We did the same in our 2011.. except we didn't last a "few nights".. we lasted one night in the driveway. Wink




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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2019 at 8:21pm
The six inch mattress arrived today and is expanding now. It will take a while before it is fully expanded and I can give an objective evaluation. I can provide some first impressions though.

First off, it is amazing what a difference that 28.1 lbs of weight makes. The 6" mattress is something Ican move easily. I expect it will still be easy once it is fully expanded.

Second is the thickness. I will need to wait to after it is fully expanded, but partially expanded, it is easy for me to fold enough to get to access things underneath.

As for comfort, I can't report on that until we have a chance to test it. One good thing about geting it now is that the odor of the new foam has time to dissipate before we need to use it. Lying down on it while partially expanded just does not work for providing an evaluation. I think it will be a bit more firm than the 10" model. My wife had mentioned the 10" model which we purchased in 2016 seems to have developed impressions where we lie. While Ido not find this to be a problem (I had not really noticed it), she does not care for that part.

Now to figure out what to do with a 10" mattress that is in too good a shape to throw away  and for which we have no good storage option.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Happy Tripping
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2019 at 6:57am
We are odd ball members if that bizarre group that actually don't mind the standard r-pod mattress. That being said, ours is getting old and needs to be replaced.

Has anyone tried the apparently new 'mattress topper' as an alternative to getting a whole new mattress??

https://www.zinus.com/collections/mattresses/mattress-type_memory-foam




Posted By: crankster78
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2019 at 8:36am
Greetings:  
I travel by myself and purchased a inner spring twin.  It's much easier to change the bedding and I installed a shelf behind it. I have a stereo system on the shelf and storage underneath.  It works great for me.  

Crankster78  R-179 


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Crankster 78 R-179 2015


Posted By: Motor7
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2019 at 9:33am
We just ordered a folding 6" fullsized queen for the 176T from Amazon for $215:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W67PH2Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Since the bed is North/South and hangs over the dinette we didn't need a short Queen....being 6'4 and the wife 5'11 a full length will be glorious. 


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2016 R-Pod 176T


Posted By: Kup-Pod
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2019 at 11:51am
So we might be classified with the "odd ball" category and also still have our RPod mattress.  We put a dense foam topper on it and also bought a mattress plush quilted cover to enclose the mattress and topper as one unit.  That seemed to do the trick for us.

Keep in mind, we are all different shapes and sizes with different definitions of comfort, so what works for one may not work for another! :-)



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2017 RP-178
2021 F150 5.0l
"Lead me on a level path"


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2019 at 12:47pm
Us too. We have always used relatively "firm" mattresses, and when we tent camp, plush to us is a thermarest, which is only 1" thick. The 6" mattress in the R-pod has seemed luxurious to us. 

We did have an old 2" thick semi-firm chunk of foam that was left over from the larger chunk that we used as a mattress in the back of the pickup that we put under the R-pod mattress. That is what does it for now. The original mattress has seemed to compress since we've gotten it, so I can foresee a time in the future when it will have to be replaced.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: Wepod
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 7:37am
Thanks all for the replies.    We used a memory foam topper on top of the old mattress but unfortunately the OEM mattress foam still broke down. We are using our pod about 10-12 weeks a year right now so that could be why the OEM mattress is going flat.

I was looking at the 8" zinus as a replacement for us as I don't go under the mattress but once a year to winterize. I am also planning on installing a access door from the outside and rerouting the plumbing valves near the pump so they can be reached to make winterizing easier.

Stephen I look forward to hearing about the 6" mattress as that may be a good option for us to


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 8:30am
Right now the 6" mattress is not working out very well as it is not expanding beyond 4". I already contacted Zinus' customer service. I will give it a couple of more days per the agent. If it still does not expand, I will contact Amazon to replace it. I may go for a refund and change brands, which would be too bad as my 10" Zinus is quite comfortable and is shortly going to be moved into our house for use there with a foam block to fill the space to make it a full queen length.

The issue may be that the mattress was manufactured in September 2018 and I ordered and received it in January 2019. The box states to unpack within 72 hours of receipt. That does not account for the four months of shipping and storage from when it was manufactured. The top memory foam portions seem to have expanded, but the base layer is the one that is still not expanded. I'll let you know more in a couple of days.

I really like the lighter weight and flexibility of the 6" mattress. An 8" mattress would be over 10 lbs heavier and stiffer. It would be a good choice as it still would be more flexible and lighter than the 10" mattress.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 9:18am
StephenH, dumb question, but are you heating your trailer interior during the expansion? If its cold in there it's going to take longer to expand and may not reach full expansion until things warm up. 

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 8:51pm
I have a heater in there, but it is not set for 70s, more like high 50s to low 60s. Maybe I'll bump it up and see if that helps.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: Wepod
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 7:21am
Stephen. How did you make out with the 6" mattress did it e ever expand all the way?


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 4:17pm
The mattress never got beyond 4" at the thickest part. I got a refund and was told to dispose of the defective one. It was donated to a Habitat for Humanity ReStore. The issue was that it was in the box too long. Manufacture date was September, 2018. I ordered it in January, 2019. That meant that it was in the box about 4 months. That was simply too long. I ordered a different brand of 6" mattress from a US manufacturer. It should be arriving here tomorrow if all goes well. I expect this one will fully expand. This is the one I ordered: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B019EMSP5Q/ - https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B019EMSP5Q/


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 4:22pm
Thanks SH, I'm not ready to move off my 10" yet, my problem has nothing to do with crawling over, my issue is getting a plan to change bedding on a heavy mattress.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 8:49pm
Yes, that was another consideration. It was difficult to get sheets on the 10" mattress. The 6" mattress should be easier. I have heard of a third way which is to put them on a mattress topper and then lay that on the mattress. It is supposed to be much easier.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 7:12am
We use the mattress topper approach but I wouldn't recommend it.  Not hard to put the sheets on but the they tend to pull off the topper at the corners. It might be better with a thicker topper, ours is about 3 inches. 

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 7:34am
Originally posted by offgrid

We use the mattress topper approach but I wouldn't recommend it.  Not hard to put the sheets on but the they tend to pull off the topper at the corners. It might be better with a thicker topper, ours is about 3 inches. 


You can get sheet leashes, they are short lengths of elastic with fasteners at each end that you connect under the corners, to keep the sheets/toppers/protectors from pulling off. I am an... "athletic sleeper" so we have used them our whole lives, every mattress. The only time they have not been needed was when we used a oversized double sleeping bag arrangement. We had a fitted sheet on the mattress still, but the bag "insulated" it from all my spins rolls twists and turns.

Something like this random link: http://www.amazon.com/Nyche-Designs-Adjustable-Grippers-Suspenders/dp/B00MNBPZFE - Sheet Grippers


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Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 8:04am
That is a great suggestion furpod. I am an "athletic sleeper" too. 

If the combo of the topper and the original rpod mattress was actually comfortable then I would try it, but its not very comfortable for us so I am awaiting StephenH's feedback on the 6 inch foam mattress. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: furpod
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 9:30am
Originally posted by offgrid

That is a great suggestion furpod. I am an "athletic sleeper" too. 

If the combo of the topper and the original rpod mattress was actually comfortable then I would try it, but its not very comfortable for us so I am awaiting StephenH's feedback on the 6 inch foam mattress. 


My "mattress advice" to new owners is always.. "mattress comfort is subjective" and I swear, we have owners happily sleeping on the stock mattress.. but I don't see how.. LOL We did one night, in the driveway in the Pod, ordered from CW the very next day.

But I will also admit, we love the stock mattress in our Lance. It's a Serta Perfect Sleeper or something close to that. Serta for sure. But many other owners don't like it. We use a Tempurpedic at home. Thought about one for the camper, but they ain't light, or cheap. Maybe if we break down and go full time..


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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 10:05am
The 6" mattress should be here by Wednesday. In the meantime, the 10" mattress is now in our house. I made a filler (6" x 10" x60" with a fabric cover) to convert it into a full-queen size. We use a mattress cover over both the mattress and filler. It is very comfortable.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2019 at 8:54pm
The Dreamfoam mattress arrived this week. I have not had time prior to this to take pictures and get them ready to post so I will have them linked to this message.




It expanded to the full 6" very quickly as it had not been compressed in a box for 4 months. Manufacture date was December, 2018 but I don't think they compress and roll them until just before shipping. It came in a tall box as the mattress was not folded in half before rolling. I think that also helped.

Impressions:
It seems a bit thin as I can sit on it and feel it bottom out on the platform. However, as soon as I lie down, it seems more than adequate. It is firm but not hard. I will know more when I can give it an actual in-use test.
It was a bit more expensive than the Zinus mattress which did not expand properly. I was able to get a refund for that one. It is disappointing as the 10" Zinus mattress is comfortable. It is now in our house taking the place of a 10-year old Select Comfort mattress which is boxed up for possible later use.

There is some residual odor to it. However, it should dissipate long before we need to use it. It is a Gel mattess and claims to sleep cooler than standard memory foam. We won't be able to verify that until we actually get the opportunity to try it.

Even though it cost more, the Dreamfoam mattress is a bargain over the price of some other mattresses I viewed as I was looking. It is made in the USA which is also a big plus.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 6:42am
Thanks StephenH, great review.  If the 6 inch feels a little thin what do you think about going with an 8 inch? Looks like they're about 43 lbs vs 35 for the 6 inch and the 10 inch at around 59 lbs. 

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 9:00am
I think the 8" would be okay. I think we will be happy with the 6". It is only while sitting on it that it feels a little thin. Lying down, it is quite comfortable. For me, the lighter weight is good. If need be, I can add a topper to it if I think it isn't quite enough once we get a chance to use it. If someone can handle the additional weight of the 8" and the decreased flexibility, then that is okay. The 10" was really too much weight and too hard to move out of the way.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: jato
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 1:25pm
When we purchased our 6" Eurotop mattress in 2011 the only negative was the weight of lifting it up to get to the bypass valves underneath.  However by just using my shoulder to lift the mattress up and getting to my access panel under the bed I can open/close the 3 valves in less than 30 seconds so it isn't too big of a deal.  Now if I had to raise an 8" or 10" mattress that may be much more problematic not only because of the extra weight to lift, but less room to raise sufficiently due to the increased thickness.  The second negative with the thicker mattress would be to easily tuck in the bedsheets and cover.  My DW sewed the bottom and cover sheet together at the base which makes it much easier to maneuver.

Now here we are 7.5 years later and still enjoy the firm mattress, just as comfortable now as the day we purchased it.


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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."


Posted By: Wepod
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 1:30pm
Stephen,  Thanks for the feed back on your 6" mattress.   I think I will look into the 8" mattress as i don't think I will need to get under it more than a couple times a year.   I will let you all know what I get and what i think of it when I get my mattress.


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 3:08pm
There is a Zinus 8inch short queen on Amazon that weighs 42 lbs but after StephenH ‘s experience with them I’m not so sure I want to try it.

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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2019 at 9:10pm
The key seems to be the age when you receive it. Unfortunately, I did not see a date of manufacture anywhere on the box when I received it. The date was on the tag attached to the mattress. In my case, the mattress was over 4 months old. Since it was made in China, the four months included shipping to the US, transportation, and warehousing before it was shipped to me.

OTOH, the Dreamfoam mattress had a date of manufacture only about a month old and I understand it is not compressed and rolled until just before shipping. The difference in how they expanded was astounding. The Dreamfoam mattress came up to full height in only a few minutes vs. the Zinus which never did expand beyond 4" at the thickest point even after about a week. However, when I got the 10" Zinus, it must have not been in the box quite as long as it did fully expand. Perhaps the 6" model moves slower than the thicker ones. If so, the 8" Zinus might be okay.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: riotkayak284
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 12:50pm
We have the 8" Zinus, and frankly is the best mattress we own.


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2019 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by riotkayak284

We have the 8" Zinus, and frankly is the best mattress we own.

Do you find the 8 inch mattress difficult to move out of the way to access equipment under the bed? 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold



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