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Topic: Medicine cabinet in bathroom fell off wall
Posted By: dannyw2002
Subject: Medicine cabinet in bathroom fell off wall
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 5:17pm
Hello all.  Have a 2019 rpod 190, love it.  On our most recent trip we arrived at the campground and our medicine cabinet fell off the wall during the drive.  It was held on with 8 screws.  Feels like the wall it was attached to is somewhat solid, although not exactly sure what is in the wall.  The cabinet is fairly heavy.  Thinking of just replacing with a lighter mirror, but thought I would check if anyone has recommendations to hang the stock cabinet.  Thx!



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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 6:29pm
Not having a 190 nor a medicine cabinet in our 179, I will hazard a couple of guesses. From the pictures I have seen it is the outside wall, you could use anchors, but if you do, make sure they are an inch in length or less or you will go through the outer wall. This only applies if the back of the medicine cabinet is not recessed into the outside wall. If it is, then there might not be enough room for anchors.
This is the type anchor to which I am referring:  http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Find-Fastener-014973264895-Piece-16/dp/B00L1IT0M4/ - http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Find-Fastener-014973264895-Piece-16/dp/B00L1IT0M4/


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StephenH
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Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2018 at 10:44am
I really like these wall anchors for our 179.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/TOGGLER-5-Pack-Assorted-Length-x-5-16-in-Dia-Standard-Drywall-Anchor-Screws-Included/3183711 - https://www.lowes.com/pd/TOGGLER-5-Pack-Assorted-Length-x-5-16-in-Dia-Standard-Drywall-Anchor-Screws-Included/3183711

Make sure you get the ones intended for 1/8"-1/4" walls (the link points to the correct depth).

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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod"
2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4
Three cats


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2018 at 2:40pm
Those thingies are pretty cool, Bum.  Did you mount any on the exterior walls that are foam filled?  If so, how did you get them to spread out?  I think I'll give them a try on our closet door at home where I have a hook that wants to fall off b/c the screws won't hold on the thin panel.

In our Pod, my method is to use 3M extra heavy duty mounting tape and a coarse threaded screw.  


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Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2018 at 3:02pm
I tried using the Toggler plastic anchors to hold the refrigerator flap in place. They were too flimsy for that purpose. I did not try them in the walls specifically because I was concerned with how the wings would be able to spread out against the foam. That is why I chose the type anchors I used.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: ZuBrew
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2018 at 7:50pm
Danny can you let me know how you end up reattaching the medicine cabinet? I'm interested in this because I have an RP-189 that has the same medicine cabinet set up. And I've been thinking about moving the cabinet over to the left because I bump my head on the bottom of the cabinet when I brush my teeth with the sink being so small. I know it sounds crazy but it bugs me. I thought if I moved the cabinet over, I'd put a piece of mirror on the wall to cover the screw holes.

You guys have any thoughts?


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2017 Chevy Silverado 1500 4X4
2018 R-Pod 189
2013 Yamaha FJR 1300A


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2018 at 8:52pm
This is slightly off topic because these anchors need more than a 1 inch wall cavity to engage but I thought I'd mention them because they are so phenomenally strong. 

http://www.toggler.com/products/snaptoggle/overview.php

I've used these to attach thousands of solar modules to roof sheathing when the rafters weren't accessible, with zero failures. They will tear a hole out of the sheathing/drywall, etc before they fail. Never had the anchor itself fail. 

Highly recommended for the right application. I like them so much I've sometimes cut them down to fit in a shallow wall cavity. 




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1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
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Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2018 at 10:47pm
I've used some similar ones that are spring loaded such that the arms pop out when they pass through the wall.  If my memory serves me they'd need about an inch or so to open.  They don't spread the force as evenly as the ones offgrid suggested, so they might not hold as well.

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: offgrid
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 12:13am
Yeah the folding metal wing toggles will fail at the hinges. The snaptoggles are a single piece little c-channel with a threaded hole. No hinged parts to fail. The plastic parts just break off flush with the wall once you've installed it, they perform no function after that. So the snaptoggles have to get pulled right through the wall as a single piece in order to fail; their ultimate strength is the force required to rip the hole in the wall itself. 

However, I don't think they could be made to work in a foam filled 1 inch deep wall. Maybe if you formed a horizontal slot in the wall long enough to slip the snaptoggle in then rotated it into a vertical position and tightened it. 


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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold


Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 11:16am
The ones I linked to might spread out OK. When you insert them into the hole, you pinch them so that the ends of the anchor pieces go in the wall first and gradually spread out as they go in. I guess it all depends on how hard the foam is.

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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod"
2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4
Three cats


Posted By: DavMar
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 1:31pm
Originally posted by offgrid

This is slightly off topic because these anchors need more than a 1 inch wall cavity to engage but I thought I'd mention them because they are so phenomenally strong. 

http://www.toggler.com/products/snaptoggle/overview.php

I've used these to attach thousands of solar modules to roof sheathing when the rafters weren't accessible, with zero failures. They will tear a hole out of the sheathing/drywall, etc before they fail. Never had the anchor itself fail. 

Highly recommended for the right application. I like them so much I've sometimes cut them down to fit in a shallow wall cavity. 




Off topic or not offgrid thanks for turning us on to this product it looks great and I plan on checking it out the next time I'm in Lowes.


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Dave & Marlene J with Zoey the
wonder dog.
2017 Rpod 180
2016 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4
Lexington, NC


Posted By: crw8sr
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 4:32pm
Haven't had this issue with our 190 but will be inspecting the cabinet in the spring.  

BTW, Veterans receive a 10% discount at Lowe's.


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2019 Traverse

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Posted By: dannyw2002
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 9:29pm
Thanks all for the replies and ideas.  I need to look at the wall in more detail that was holding the medicine cabinet.  It does face the exterior, would assume it is fairly thin, although the screws that were originally holding on the cabinet were at least an inch long.  The wall must not have very solid material as it fell off with 8 fairly coarse threaded screws holding it up.  Seems like the anchor type bolts would probably be a better solution.  Overall just seems the weight of the medicine cabinet is just not ideal for the material in the wall.  Still deciding what to do...appreciate the thoughts.


Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 10:51pm
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2018 at 10:39am
Originally posted by crw8sr

Haven't had this issue with our 190 but will be inspecting the cabinet in the spring.  

BTW, Veterans receive a 10% discount at Lowe's.

Veterans should sign up for this benefit and get it added to the MyLowes card. This will allow online purchases.
https://www.lowes.com/mylowes/register?context=military - https://www.lowes.com/mylowes/register?context=military

If you don't have or don't want a MyLowes card, Military IDs, and VA VIC cards can be used for in-store purchases. More details are available at the link above.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: ZuBrew
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2018 at 11:24am
Danny, I would have thought the Forest River folks would have tried to hit the wall studs when attaching the medicine cabinet. At least with a few of the screws. Mine is packed away for the winter right now but I'll be checking on this in the spring because I really want to move my medicine cabinet.

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2017 Chevy Silverado 1500 4X4
2018 R-Pod 189
2013 Yamaha FJR 1300A


Posted By: Sailor Pod
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2018 at 5:57pm
We have yet to have the mirror problem with my R Pod, but I suspect your R Pod is still under warranty.  If it is and the dealer is nearby, they should fix it for your without charge.  If the dealer is not near, maybe a call to the dealer will help facilitate the repair by someone near you.

Just a suggestion and may be worth a try.  If it is not covered under warranty, there are other suggestions in this thread that will likely work. 


Posted By: cfishkin
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2020 at 10:45pm
Though the medicine cabinet looks nice, it is totally impractical for brushing your teeth. We just took ours off the wall, took the mirrored door, removed the handle, and hung the door back on the wall with command strips. Changes everything. Have to figure out how the cover up the screw holes in the wall which I will. Am also replacing the faucet.


Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2020 at 11:05pm
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If you want something done right, do it yourself.
2011 RP172, 2016 Tundra 5.7 Litre, Ltd.




Posted By: cfishkin
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2020 at 8:59am
Wow, my first post and what a reply.  Thank you!



Posted By: Dirt Sifter
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2020 at 9:39am
Danny, our 195 had a recall because some of the medicine cabinets were not screwed into the studs on some of the production, like ZuBrew said. You might try to locate the studs and see if the installer missed. BUT on that note, I have problems with where it is in relation to the sink anyway.

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'07 Tundra 5.7L., '17 Tacoma 3.5L. Both with tow packages
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Posted By: Badweissenbier
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2020 at 6:42pm
There is a TSB on the medicine cabinet falling off. 51-1058
It is a free repair at a forest river dealer



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