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Topic: New RP 180!!!
Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Subject: New RP 180!!!
Date Posted: 28 May 2018 at 12:38am
After much debate as to whether or not to try to repair the extensive roof dry rot in my '89 Coleman Sequoia tent trailer I have decided to buy a new rPod 180. Big smile

I've seen them on the road for a long time and always thought they were cool and unique. Just last weekend while visiting the antique travel trailer show at the Pismo Beach campground I noticed that there was an rPod dealer among the RV dealers across the street. I briefly looked at the RP 180 and took some photos with my phone. Later I showed them to my wife and she agreed to go see the trailer the following day. We ended up buying it last Sunday, and we settled on $750 for the trade for the '89 Coleman Sequoia. We pick up the new trailer this coming Saturday. They also agreed to throw in a set of towing mirrors and a new drop hitch and ball.

My wife Genéte liked the large dry bath on the 180. I liked the 179's big kitchen and dinette but neither of us liked the wet bath. Since it's just the two of us, and our four Dachshunds, I'm hoping the 180 will work well. I liked the openness of that floor plan with the windows on each side.

Today I cleaned out the old trailer and removed all of our gear. In 2003 we towed that trailer from CA to NC and did 13 states in six weeks. Genéte and I got married a month later because we figured that if we could live together in tight quarters for six weeks then anything was possible!

I towed the Coleman tent trailer with a 2002 4 cyl Tacoma extra cab (5-lug), and got 17-18 mpg on flat ground. The hills were difficult, sometimes had to drop to second gear.

This time I will be towing the new rPod with a 2011 Tacoma V6 PreRunner Access Cab with the factory tow package. I will probably add a set of Hellwig overload springs to the back of the Tacoma if the tongue weight pulls the truck down. My last Tacoma could have used overloads because the relatively light tent trailer (1,500 lbs) sank the rear.

I just this week found this forums website and it looks like there is wealth of information here!

Planning on some short weekend trips to try out the new trailer and later this year travel up the Oregon coast.





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Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 28 May 2018 at 5:57am
Welcome to the group! Congrats on your 180!!!  

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 28 May 2018 at 8:17am
Welcome to the forum. I am sure you will love your Rpod.  Last year we spent 2 months traveling the Washington and Oregon coasts.  There are lots of great camping parks and and areas to explore.  
travel safe
Vann


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Vann & Laura 2015 RPod 179
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Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 28 May 2018 at 11:17am
Congratulations and welcome! We are in the midst of our third trip with our RP179 out west to see our daughters and grandchildren. We've had other extended trips. I've lost track of how many miles we have put on our R-Pod but it is probably in excess of 15,000 since we purchased it. I hope you have many adventures and make many great memories with your R-Pod.

Don't expect anywhere near the mileage you were getting when towing the Coleman. The frontal area of the R-Pod means that there is much more wind resistance to overcome. We tow with a 2010 Nissan Frontier 4L V6 4WD Crew Cab. The truck gets 19 or 20 mpg without the trailer. When towing we get between 10 and 14 with our 179. I installed an AeroPlus to help with wind resistance and limit my towing speed to 60 mph, even on the Interstate Highways. If I were to try towing faster, I would be getting more like 8 mpg. Mountains and strong headwinds cut the mileage. A good tailwind helps. Towing at no more than 60 mph is more relaxing also.

You mention adding overload springs. Consider instead a weight distribution hitch such as the Equal-i-zer 4-point sway control hitch, the Progress Industries E2 hitch (2-point sway control), the Andersen No-Sway hitch, or something equivalent. These will provide sway control as well as keeping the back of the truck from sagging too much. Sway control is something you don't need until you do. It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Crosswinds and passing trucks can exert much more force on the 180 than they could on the Coleman.


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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 28 May 2018 at 12:02pm
The gas mileage on the Tacoma is not the best unloaded. When I bought tis one I researched both engines; the V6 and the 2.7 4 cyl. The I4 only got three miles per gallon better than the V6 but had no power at all and couldn't even get out of its own way. (I asked the salesman on a test drive, 'This is so gutless. Is the parking brake on?' He said no, they're all like this.) If I get 12 mpg pulling the pod I'll be happy. From what I've heard the 4.0 V6 pulls much better than the new smaller Toyota Tacoma V6 introduced in 2016.

I've heard that the WDH can transfer too much weight to the trailer axel and possibly overload it's carrying capacity. (I was warned NOT to use a WDH on a single-axel trailer from someone on the Tacoma World Forums, for that very reason.) 

 I had a set of Hellwig progressive overload springs on my '91 F-150 and it made a world of difference carrying a '67 Alaskan camper. I'll probably add a set to the Tacoma. 

I'm a slow driver so I'm not planing on going faster than 60 mph either. (Had a '67 VW camper bus for a long time and got used to life in the slow lane.) Some people are too impatient. It's the journey and not always the destination that is important. 


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 28 May 2018 at 12:54pm
I think you would be better off with a WDH or at least anti-sway. The amount of weight transferred onto the trailer axle is miniscule. Less than 60 lbs based on the calculations I ran. The long moment arm between the hitch and the trailer axle is the key here. Most of the weight gets shifted to the front wheels of the tow vehicle (because the short moment arm is between the hitch and the rear axle of the tow vehicle.

We have a 2010 Tacoma, and it does well most of the time. It does get a bit low on go when we are at 10,000 feet in the higher Sierra, and this is without towing a trailer. I would be concerned if we planned on towing the R-pod in a place like that. We used to have a 2008 Tacoma with the 2.7L 4-banger. At 10,000 feet, it could barely get out of its own way. The 4L V6 is way better. No question.

OTOH, our Ecoboost barely breaks a sweat at 10,000 feet. We have not (yet) pulled the R-pod over one of those high Sierra passes, but I have no doubt that it can do it without drama.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 28 May 2018 at 5:29pm
How do you back up with a WDH? Would helper springs and a sway bar be better?


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 28 May 2018 at 6:41pm
A WD hitch does not affect backing up. The issue comes with the separate say control has that operate on friction. They must be loosened before backing out the will be the mount. WD hitches such as the Equal-i-zer, the E2, or the NoSway can be backed with no adjustment and no problems.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: DavMar
Date Posted: 28 May 2018 at 7:59pm
Congrats on your new 180 and for some the same reasons you like yours we love ours.
I don't see you have any problems towing your Pod with your Tacoma PreRunner V-6. I added SumoSprings to my 2016 Tacoma which helped out along with using a WDH. I have no problem pulling our 180 with this new generation of Tacoma with it's new Atkinson cycle engine. I think most people freak out because this engine was designed to run at higher rpm's and they equate it doing so as to not having the power to pull at highway speeds which it in fact does.


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Dave & Marlene J with Zoey the
wonder dog.
2017 Rpod 180
2016 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4
Lexington, NC


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 29 May 2018 at 9:11am
Congratulations on your new Pod and welcome to the forum.  Several have suggested a WDH.  It's a good idea, especially with a lighter truck like a Tacoma.  You will find the driving much more comfortable and less tiring.

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: crankster78
Date Posted: 29 May 2018 at 9:36am
Greetings
I'm 78 so I built a small step for the bath in my 179.  It really helps and doesn't take up much room.  My 07 F-150 rear springs are getting a little saggy when towing, so I put heavy duty shocks with springs on the truck,  That leveled it up for about $200.  I have dual tanks plus an electric hitch jack installed which increases the hitch weight.  I removed the spare tire and put it in the front of my 8 foot box, which helped also.

Crankster78


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Crankster 78 R-179 2015


Posted By: Live2Camp
Date Posted: 29 May 2018 at 7:56pm
Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr

After much debate as to whether or not to try to repair the extensive roof dry rot in my '89 Coleman Sequoia tent trailer I have decided to buy a new rPod 180. Big smile
 
Planning on some short weekend trips to try out the new trailer and later this year travel up the Oregon coast.

Greetings from another Californian and congrats on your decision, you're going to love your RPod! We sure love ours. Your name caught my music-loving eye too (clever pairing :-) . Since you also mention Oregon, you might already know there is an RPod rally in Cannon Beach in late August. I'm not the organizer, and I don't know if it's full yet. But you might do a quick search of the forum if you're interested in the info. Have fun with your 180! 


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2017 R-Pod 179 HRE (the green one)
His:Ford F150 double cab 4WD; Hers/mine:Tacoma V6 double cab 4WD
Still love rugged, diggin' comfy too


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 30 May 2018 at 12:41am
Oh that would be cool, but my wife wants to wait until late Sept, early Oct when all the kids are back in school and it's just us old people on the road! An rPod rally would be neat though.

Yeah, I'm going to have to give up taping concerts, at least for a while, after spending the $$$ on this new trailer. (It's Not that I use old Neumanns. I'M Old...and I use Neumanns!)

 Fortunately I have a lot to listen to! Road trips aren't complete without good music.


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 9:26am
Tomorrow is the day! Going through the walkthrough and picking up the new RP 180. We're going to try to find a local campground for the night to try it out but if they are full we'll just camp for the night beside the condo!




Posted By: Live2Camp
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr

Tomorrow is the day! Going through the walkthrough and picking up the new RP 180. We're going to try to find a local campground for the night to try it out but if they are full we'll just camp for the night beside the condo!

Congratulations and enjoy!!! We've had ours 2 years this July and aren't over the excitement of getting it. So much so that we often camp in it in between camping trips Smile


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2017 R-Pod 179 HRE (the green one)
His:Ford F150 double cab 4WD; Hers/mine:Tacoma V6 double cab 4WD
Still love rugged, diggin' comfy too


Posted By: seafans
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 7:14pm
We picked up new rp-180 in Nevada.  Very much like it.  What I did for the extra tongue weight is to install a pair of air springs.  This way you can add or let out air to get the trailer level when  it is driven.  The tongue weight on the RP180 is more than most of the other rpods.  About 335 lbs.  The extra weight makes it tow much better.  Are you going to be at the get together in Oregon in August?


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 10:39pm
I wish we could but we won’t be able to. It sounds like fun though.


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 11:19pm
I’m getting a set of Hellwig overload springs, model #979, for the back of the Tacoma. They are cheaper than air bags. I’ve used them before when I had my F-150 and they help a lot, especially with body roll and to raise up the back of the truck.


Posted By: PilotPodder
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2018 at 6:04am
Congrats on the new R-Pod! All the best camping this season. ~PP

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Portage, MI — 2017 RPod 179 - sold / 2017 Toyota Tundra — https://johnmarucci.com/r-pod-video-list/ - My RPod YouTube Videos


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2018 at 10:08pm
This is awesome!! Camping for the first time with the rPod 180 at the beach. Programming the TV now. Doxies don’t quite know what you to think of all this.

Did the walkthrough today at Pacific Coast RV. The tech explained everything and was very thorough. The dealer gave me $750 in trade for my ‘89 Coleman and also gave me a $350 voucher for the parts dept. I was able to upgrade the battery from the group 24 to a group 27. Also got towing mirrors and a new drop hitch and ball and part of my brake controller was also covered. Had to pay for the installation of the brake controller plus a pigtail for the wiring. They adjusted the trailer brakes and they feel very neutral.

Had to buy some new doggie steps at Petco for the doxies to be able to get up on the bed.

Drove to the coast over highway 46 and pulled the 1,740 six percent grade in almost 100 degree heat. The Tacoma pulled the rPod just fine in fourth gear with the overdrive locked out. I was taching about 3,800 and the truck never felt like it was straining. 55 and 60 mph but that was just fine.

The service dept guys who set up my drop hitch said I did NOT need a WDH and the Tacoma would pull it just fine. They were right! On flat ground I never knew it was there. Hills were slow but no problem. Definitely better than my ‘67 VW bus!!

Camping now at Morro Bay Dunes, private RV Park. Just picked programmer the TV and checked out the cable TV !
Still marveling at how much nicer the rPod is compared to the tent trailer.


Posted By: Leo B
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 6:16am
Congrats!!  

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Leo & Melissa Bachand
2017 Ford F150
2021 Vista Cruiser 19 csk
Previously owned
2015 Rpod 179
2010 Rpod 171


Posted By: lostagain
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 8:26am
Now it's time to head up CA198 up to Red Fir, or CA190 up to Quaker Meadow.  Big smile

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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 8:27am
Where is the rPod rally in Oregon this summer? Might be fun to check that out.


Posted By: Tars Tarkas
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 8:34am
Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr


Drove to the coast over highway 46 and pulled the 1,740 six percent grade in almost 100 degree heat. The Tacoma pulled the rPod just fine in fourth gear with the overdrive locked out. I was taching about 3,800 and the truck never felt like it was straining. 55 and 60 mph but that was just fine.

One thing I am very glad I did with my FJ Cruiser is add an auxiliary transmission cooler.  Around $50 to $60 and 30 minutes work.  Drops the transmission fluid temps about 30°.  If your Tacoma is like my FJ it doesn't have a transmission temperature gunge so I added a Scanguage (which has to be tweaked to get the TF temp).  Normal is around 180°.  The worst of the Smoky Mountains was 250°+ without the cooler.

Toyota won't tell what's too hot for TF but the longer it's hot the more it deteriorates.  Oh, yeah.  There is a TF light.  From what I can tell when it comes on it doesn't mean let things cool down, it means you TF is cooked and needs to be changed. 

Fourth gear is good.  Going up a long hill, if the tranny is dropping to 3rd you'd do well to shift manually to 3rd too so as to avoid having the auto transmission search for gears.  That's what really builds up the heat.

Check out a Tacoma forum and ask about pulling a 3500 lb trailer.  I'll bet the biggest response will be to add a transmission cooler.

All that said, if you have the factory tow package you may already have enough transmission cooling, but it's still something to look into and be sure.

TT


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2010 176
FJ Cruiser


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 8:41am
Already have the trans cooker as part of the towing package. My truck just 60,000 miles so will be getting the trans flushed this coming week in a major service along with new plugs and new oil in the rear diff.

I’m a member of the Tacomaworld forums. Thanks for the tip on the trans temp gage. Sounds like a good idea.


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 8:42am
Trans cooler. Stupid auto correct😟


Posted By: onazip
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 9:28am
I agree that the WDH is major benefit.  We got a Husky WDH from Amazon and the difference was night and day.  I towed our Pod home without it and felt like I was driving a boat.  Very light front end and the rear sagged about an inch.  With the WDH the Tacoma is level and there is very little sway.  
I found that 60-65mph was my sweet spot for highway speed.  I may be imagining, but I also thought driving in "4" instead of "D" resulted in less automatic tranny shifting.  


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2018 Tundra
2018 176t


Posted By: DavMar
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr

Already have the trans cooker as part of the towing package. My truck just 60,000 miles so will be getting the trans flushed this coming week in a major service along with new plugs and new oil in the rear diff.

I’m a member of the Tacomaworld forums. Thanks for the tip on the trans temp gage. Sounds like a good idea.


Congrats on your maiden voyage of your new 180! I too am a member of Tacomaworld forum you know its my truck by their sticker in my Tacoma back window. I have no problems towing my 180 but I do run it in manual shifting with the ECT in the ON position. On flat grades, interstate and such, I have no problem with it running highway speeds with up shifting into 5th gear. I did put in a set of Sumo Springs to help handle the 180 tongue weight and have the  rear shocks run cooler. I would also suggest, especially since you live out west maybe running in the windy plains of the west, to seriously think about looking into a WDH.


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Dave & Marlene J with Zoey the
wonder dog.
2017 Rpod 180
2016 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4
Lexington, NC


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 11:15pm
Thanks. It was fun. Several times the wife and I high-fived each other. We are over the moon. Such a world of difference from the old dilapidated tent trailer trailer.

Met another new rPod owner at the campground who also just got one, a 2017 179 from a dealer in Los Angeles. He had a new WDH and told me that someone he knew with an rPod who did a lot of towing with a standard hitch wore down the rear tires much too fast. Didn’t think about that.

Today took the dogs to the beach and used the outside shower to wash them. Took the table outside and placed towels over it and bathed the dogs one at a time in a Rubbermaid bin with the outside shower. Had to off load the soapy water to my five gallon bucket to pour into the campgrounds dump station so we didn’t get water on the ground.


Posted By: Live2Camp
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 11:54pm
Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr


Drove to the coast over highway 46 and pulled the 1,740 six percent grade in almost 100 degree heat. The Tacoma pulled the rPod just fine in fourth gear with the overdrive locked out. I was taching about 3,800 and the truck never felt like it was straining. 55 and 60 mph but that was just fine.

Camping now at Morro Bay Dunes, private RV Park. Just picked programmer the TV and checked out the cable TV !
Still marveling at how much nicer the rPod is compared to the tent trailer.
Highway 46 is wonderful! And we love Morro Bay. So glad you folks are already having such a fantastic time with your new Pod. 


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2017 R-Pod 179 HRE (the green one)
His:Ford F150 double cab 4WD; Hers/mine:Tacoma V6 double cab 4WD
Still love rugged, diggin' comfy too


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 12:28am
Morro Bay is a favorite place. I lived there with my exwife 30 years ago. It’s nice to be able to camp there.
We are loving the new rPod. The best part is that is does in fact fit in my outside parking place next to the condo. I was worried because I have to back it in off of an alley and there’s not a lot of room to maneuver. It took me 20 minutes but I did it! I had six inches on each side, backing in on a corner. Didn’t want to hit the garage and I really didn’t want to hit the neighbor’s van. The rPod is seven feet longer than the tent trailer was and it makes it really difficult in limited space to back it in.


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 9:32am
Originally posted by StephenH



You mention adding overload springs. Consider instead a weight distribution hitch such as the Equal-i-zer 4-point sway control hitch, the Progress Industries E2 hitch (2-point sway control), the Andersen No-Sway hitch, or something equivalent. These will provide sway control as well as keeping the back of the truck from sagging too much. Sway control is something you don't need until you do. It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Crosswinds and passing trucks can exert much more force on the 180 than they could on the Coleman.

Would a good WDH do a better job of leveling the back of the truck than just the overloads alone? I measured the air gap this weekend. Unloaded I have a six-inch gap between the top of the tire and the bottom of the bed fender. Once the trailer is on it drops one inch to a five-inch gap. This was our first overnight trip with the 180 and we didn't have a great deal of gear with us. (No bikes, kayak, and only 1/3 full of freshwater tank.) I imagine that with more weight the truck would drop further.

I'm wondering why the RV shop techs who installed the brake controller on the truck and did the walkthrough BOTH said that I was fine without the WDH. Wouldn't they have wanted to push something else to make a sale?

Would the WDH or overloads alone do a better job of controlling bounce, especially going over bridges on the highway? That's one thing I did notice this weekend that was mildly annoying.

Thanks for the advice.


Posted By: StephenH
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 10:05am
I don't have any experience with overload springs for comparison so I hesitate to say which would be better.. The one thing a WD hitch with sway control that I know about will do for you is provide sway control that, unless your truck has it integrated, is lacking.

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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,...

http://www.rpod-owners.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7712 - ouR escaPOD mods
Former RPod 179
Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS


Posted By: DavMar
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 10:11am
Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr


Would the WDH or overloads alone do a better job of controlling bounce, especially going over bridges on the highway? That's one thing I did notice this weekend that was mildly annoying.

Thanks for the advice.


IMHO my answer is yes! As would also things like Sumo Shocks, helper springs, or even just better rear shocks then the original ones. Once my WDH was properly adjusted and with the addition of up graded tires both my wife and I immediately noticed an improvement on "bouncing" on our 180. Opinions very on whether or not to have a WDH, I wouldn't tow without it due to safety issues alone not to mention the improvement on towing.


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Dave & Marlene J with Zoey the
wonder dog.
2017 Rpod 180
2016 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4
Lexington, NC


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 11:59am
Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr

Would a good WDH do a better job of leveling the back of the truck than just the overloads alone?
In a word. Yes.

The overload springs do nothing, zilch, nada to transfer any load to the front axle (the steering axle). So while it may look OK from a level point of view, you still have effectively "unloaded" the front axle by whatever the moment arm is. If the tow vehicle is big/heavy enough, then no problem. However, if the vehicle is relatively light and/or front wheel drive, then you might be in for an unpleasant surprise. That's the main job of a WDH, it takes a portion of the tongue weight, and transfers it to the front of the tow vehicle. The exact dynamics vary with the size and weight of the TV and TT; no two situations will be exactly the same.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 12:38pm
TV is a 2011 Tacoma V6 PreRunner Access Cab with the factory tow package (upgraded alternator, bigger battery, receiver hitch and trailer wiring. GVWR on the truck is 5,250 I believe. More than the trailer weight but not by a significant amount. I notice that most people go with the WDH.

(The truck has the TRD Off Road package with the off road gas shocks. I never take the truck off road but liked the higher ground clearance of the PreRunner and I wanted a V6 because I knew when I bought the truck that I would eventually replace the tent trailer with a travel trailer and I didn’t need four wheel drive.)


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 2:37pm
The Tacoma is a great tow vehicle for pretty much any R-pod. If you poll this forum, you will find that a significant percentage are towing with a Tacoma. As long as it's the V6, you should be fine. I'd probably prefer having the WDH, simply because I like having all four wheels with good traction/control.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: mcarter
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 2:51pm
I think there is a bit of half truths here. A WDH transfers weight to all axles of both the TV and the TT. Does it assist with front end rise - yes, most say a WDH is a good idea if TT is 50% of weight capacity of TV. Do your headlights shine into the sky, your TV rear end sag, you notice sway or control issues, then WDH is a good consideration. Absolutely agree beefing up rear suspension is not the right answer, the right answer is to distribute weight. And a WDH does that across ALL axles. I wouldn't let the forum WHD shame me into adding something I don't need. I know many of this forum use them, do they all need them, I guess so if they think so. I don't have a WDH and I tow fine. BTW - I would not go with dealers recommendation, this is about you and your towing experience.

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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 9:37pm
All good advice. Thanks to all who have offered their comments. I will have to carefully decide which route I shall take. Leaning now to the WDH but will have to convince the wife, as she is always texting me little emojis of dollar bills flying away with sad faces.


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2018 at 12:19am
We got reservations for the 2018 Cannon Beach Meetup! Yay! We will be there all three days.


Posted By: Live2Camp
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2018 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr

We got reservations for the 2018 Cannon Beach Meetup! Yay! We will be there all three days.

Good! We'll see you there. 


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2017 R-Pod 179 HRE (the green one)
His:Ford F150 double cab 4WD; Hers/mine:Tacoma V6 double cab 4WD
Still love rugged, diggin' comfy too


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2018 at 8:21pm
We are excited. It looks like fun. Haven’t been on the Oregon coast in 20+ years.


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2018 at 9:26pm
Thanks everyone for your advice. After much thought, and talking with a variety of shops, I have decided to go with the Equalizer 500 WDH with 4-way sway control. The local hitch company will be installing it in the next couple of weeks. There were a couple of models, but this one is rated for 4,000 lb GTW and 400 lbs TW. I looked at a lot of hitches on line and liked the Equalizer because it is American made. Is this the appropriate model for the rPod? It seemed to be but I thought I'd ask.
Is this all I need? Will this help with the bouncing over bridges and raise the rear of the truck to a more level position?

The shops told me that because the rPod is a single-axel trailer, and is tall and has a lot of surface area, it can sway in the wind more than a double-axel trailer. Plus, my truck is not 50% heavier than my trailer so the WDH was recommended.

This has all been a learning experience. Just today I had the local Toyota dealer do a large service on my 2011 Tacoma V6 PreRunner. It had just turned 60,000 miles so I had new plugs put in, and had the trans flushed and all new synthetic trans fluid installed. Also had the gear oil in the rear differential changed, along with an oil and filter change.

Looks like a good start for the summer camping season. Looking forward to the meet up in OR in August! 


Posted By: DavMar
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2018 at 9:46pm
OldNeumanntapr, your choice of WDH anti sway seems more then adequate to me but hey what do I know? Wink
My only other suggestion to you is to look at upgrading your tires because remember you only have two hitting the road compared to four on larger RV campers on the road.
 


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Dave & Marlene J with Zoey the
wonder dog.
2017 Rpod 180
2016 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4
Lexington, NC


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 10:21am
OldNeumanntapr, I agree with DavMar, that WDH should work just fine. I don't really agree with the shop's opinion that the R-pod will sway more because it's single axle and has a high profile. I've compared the R-pod to other TTs, and it's not really any higher, and it is, in fact, usually a more narrow profile. At any rate, we have never experienced any sway issue with our 179. The WDH will tend to level both the TV and the TT if it is set up correctly.

When you're pulling with a WDH, you will notice that the TV and TT will move more like "one unit". So it kind of stretches your overall wheelbase. That's slightly hyperbole, but it kind of gives you an idea of what to expect.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: Pod People
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 1:04pm
We also use the Equalizer 4 point wdh with sway. However, I think most people go with the 600/6000 unit to make sure you have a little “overkill”. Most pods will come closer to 3500# when fully loaded. 
I have used this hitch for a 173 and a 179  and been very happy with the performance.
Vann


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Vann & Laura 2015 RPod 179
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Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2018 at 2:31pm
Originally posted by DavMar

OldNeumanntapr, your choice of WDH anti sway seems more then adequate to me but hey what do I know? Wink
My only other suggestion to you is to look at upgrading your tires because remember you only have two hitting the road compared to four on larger RV campers on the road.
 



The rPod has brand new load range E tires which hopefully will last a few years. I considered upgrading the tires on the truck but BFG All Terrains (a step up from the BFG Rugged Trail) are $250 each! If I get the WDH it should take some of the weight off the rear axel so I’m hoping the stock tires will be OK.


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2018 at 2:34pm
Originally posted by Pod People

We also use the Equalizer 4 point wdh with sway. However, I think most people go with the 600/6000 unit to make sure you have a little “overkill”. Most pods will come closer to 3500# when fully loaded. 
I have used this hitch for a 173 and a 179  and been very happy with the performance.
Vann


I thought you had to match the WDH pretty closely to the actual weight you will be carrying. This is what the websites all say. There’s no way my trailer would ever weigh three tons.


Posted By: TheBum
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2018 at 2:48pm
Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr

Originally posted by Pod People

We also use the Equalizer 4 point wdh with sway. However, I think most people go with the 600/6000 unit to make sure you have a little “overkill”. Most pods will come closer to 3500# when fully loaded. 
I have used this hitch for a 173 and a 179  and been very happy with the performance.
Vann


I thought you had to match the WDH pretty closely to the actual weight you will be carrying. This is what the websites all say. There’s no way my trailer would ever weigh three tons.


You do want it close, but the rating should always exceed the actual load. You're right: if it's excessively hefty, it can actually cause issues, especially if you're pulling with a unibody TV like our Highlander. A 600/6000 is good for almost any R-Pod setup.

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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod"
2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4
Three cats


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2018 at 5:47pm
The 600/6000 Equalizer is about $80 more. I’ve heard that the actual tongue weight is higher than what Forest River claims because they don’t add the weight of the battery and propane tank. Is this correct? Maybe the 600/6000 model would be a better choice, if that’s what most go with. Thanks.


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2018 at 6:39pm
Originally posted by TheBum

You do want it close, but the rating should always exceed the actual load. You're right: if it's excessively hefty, it can actually cause issues, especially if you're pulling with a unibody TV like our Highlander. A 600/6000 is good for almost any R-Pod setup.
Almost exactly what our dealer explained to us. The 600/6000 is the smallest E2 makes, and so that is what a lot of dealers gravitate to. There are not a lot of WDH choices in the 450/4500 weight category, but those would generally be a good choice for a pod as well. Certainly going to 800/8000 would probably cause more problems than it solves.

I will say that our 600/6000 E2 seems to be a real good match to our RP-179.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2018 at 9:24pm
I tow with a 400/4000 Equal-i-zer for 8 seasons I'm very happy with it

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If you want something done right, do it yourself.
2011 RP172, 2016 Tundra 5.7 Litre, Ltd.




Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2018 at 10:43pm
Originally posted by marwayne

I tow with a 400/4000 Equal-i-zer for 8 seasons I'm very happy with it

That’s the one that the local independent trailer shop recommended. Which model should I go with?


Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2018 at 10:56pm
???????

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If you want something done right, do it yourself.
2011 RP172, 2016 Tundra 5.7 Litre, Ltd.




Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2018 at 9:19am
There was a review on the etrailer site from someone who said that the 600/6000 model was too heavy to take on and off and thought the smaller size was better. That's probably what I'm going to go with.


Posted By: DavMar
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2018 at 2:20pm
Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr

There was a review on the etrailer site from someone who said that the 600/6000 model was too heavy to take on and off and thought the smaller size was better. That's probably what I'm going to go with.


All of us here that use anti-sway wdh here use that model of the e2, me included. There is no problem taking it on and off, they even give a tool to help put the square bars on in a jiffy with ease. The only thing heavy about the hitch is what I guess is called the "ball assembly" that sides into your receiver. When I'm out on the road and camping I leave this part in (using a locking hitch pin which you should consider buying if you don't have one) the receiver and just remove the square bars when I unhitch which is no trouble.


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Dave & Marlene J with Zoey the
wonder dog.
2017 Rpod 180
2016 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4
Lexington, NC


Posted By: GlueGuy
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2018 at 4:11pm
Originally posted by DavMar

Originally posted by OldNeumanntapr

There was a review on the etrailer site from someone who said that the 600/6000 model was too heavy to take on and off and thought the smaller size was better. That's probably what I'm going to go with.


All of us here that use anti-sway wdh here use that model of the e2, me included. There is no problem taking it on and off, they even give a tool to help put the square bars on in a jiffy with ease. The only thing heavy about the hitch is what I guess is called the "ball assembly" that sides into your receiver. When I'm out on the road and camping I leave this part in (using a locking hitch pin which you should consider buying if you don't have one) the receiver and just remove the square bars when I unhitch which is no trouble.
+1. When the truck and the trailer are coupled, I usually just crank up the tongue until the bar just slides on in; you can push it with your pinky finger. Walk over to the other side, and same. Insert the holding clips, and let it back down. Only need to use the "helper" if the truck/trailer is in some weird depression or something.


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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost


Posted By: marwayne
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2018 at 4:31pm
Not all of us.

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If you want something done right, do it yourself.
2011 RP172, 2016 Tundra 5.7 Litre, Ltd.




Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2018 at 8:41pm
I contacted etrailer.com but they want to know the EXACT tongue weight and not just an estimate.
The brochure lists the (I imagine dry) tongue weight of the 180 as 340 lbs. Adding the weight of the propane tank, group 27 marine battery, and power tongue jack I estimated the total tongue weight at 420 lbs but I don't know for certain unless I take the trailer to the local truck stop and use their scales to weigh it. I don't know why they just couldn't give me their recommendation between the Equalizer 400/4000 and 600/6000 but apparently they won't unless I supply an EXACT tongue weight.
If it is in fact over 400 lbs tongue weight I would imagine that the larger WDH would be in order but I have sent etrailer several emails back and forth and they won't come out with a straight answer.
My mechanic told me that if you get a WDH that is too much capacity it will in effect stretch the load too far apart between the wheel bases which can cause a really rough ride.
I want to make this a one-time purchase and get the right one on the first try.


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2018 at 9:45pm
Finally got an answer from etrailer. For the Equalizer + rPod they recommend the 600/6000 model so that's the one I will be getting.

Thanks to everyone for your advice.


Posted By: Billy Bob
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2018 at 7:19pm
I just got that model 6000 for my new 190....worked great in the gusty winds the last two days.

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2019 RPOD 190
2017 Chev Colorado 4 X 4
Yellow Lab and English Springer Spaniel


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2018 at 7:25pm
Originally posted by Billy Bob

I just got that model 6000 for my new 190....worked great in the gusty winds the last two days.

Had a long talk with a lady from etrailer.com today. The 600/6000 is the ticket for the rPods. 
Tongue weight range is between 200 and 600 lbs, whereas the 400/4000's tongue weight range is from 100 lbs to 400 lbs. I see now why most everyone recommends the 600/6000 Equalizer. The smaller model is almost maxed out with the rPod tongue.

I liked the floor plan of the 190 but my dealer didn't have one in stock. That is a nice unit.


Posted By: fixedwing2
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2018 at 8:12pm
Billy Bob we have the setup: r Pod 190 with a Chevy Colorado 4x4, with an E2 600/6000 WDH. We’ve only towed it about 1000 miles, but so far we’re really pleased.


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Steve Young
R Pod 190
Cessna 150M


Posted By: OldNeumanntapr
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2018 at 12:38pm
Just ordered the Equalizer 600/6000 through etrailer. $501. Having it professionally installed next week.

Thanks everyone for their advice.



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